MEXICO vs. PUERTO RICO boxers/fans Rivalry when did it all started???

Here are a couple of good threads since we're discussing the Mexico vs Puerto Rico rivalry again. Mexico, 22 vs Puerto Rico, 41 - Lets name the Fights http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214218&highlight=mexico+rico LA Times: The History Of The Puerto Rico VS Mexico Rivalary http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195849&highlight=mexico+rico

it goes back in the 40's. but it started to heat up in the 80's.

Mexico in general dont care about boxing period.. That's another truth, Mexico is all about "futbol", even though they suck at it

no they got Sky which comes with the subscription or someshit, no charge Yes exactly. I dont have sky, i just pay cable and HBO comes with it, if someone really thinks Mexicans have HBO to watch De la hoya fights is crazy....

do you honestly believe mexicans dont root for oscar when he fights? come on man, that shit is old drama from the chavez fights... Yes, i honestly believe that because i'm mexican and i live in Mexico. Only mexicans that are fans of Oscar root for him when he fights, but Mexico in general doesn't care about him.

you still have to pay for hbo. hbo is not free But we don't pay HBO to watch a Oscar De La Hoya fight, are you serious? if boxing wasn't on hbo i would still pay.

You mean mexican-americans. In Mexico we don't really have the "ppv system" the De La Hoya-Mayweather fight was free on HBO in Mexico, same as the Pacquiao fight. you still have to pay for hbo. hbo is not free

do you honestly believe mexicans dont root for oscar when he fights? come on man, that shit is old drama from the chavez fights... what do you think would happen to oscar if he beat chavez jr. i dont think any mexican would like him.

Oscar De La Hoya - $610.6 million on 12.6 million buys (18 events) most ppv sold in history Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History 1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million 2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million 3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million 4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million 5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million 6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million 7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million 8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million 9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million 10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million 11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million 12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million 13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million 14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million 15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million 16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million 17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million 18. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (5/07) 2.15 million buys = $120.0 million Totals: 12.6 million buys = $610.6 million i guess mexican were buying the ppv too You mean mexican-americans. In Mexico we don't really have the "ppv system" the De La Hoya-Mayweather fight was free on HBO in Mexico, same as the Pacquiao fight.

Oscar De La Hoya is not Mexican, nobody in Mexico cares if he loses or wins, when he wins nobody in Mexico celebrate (unless they are fans of him and not because he's "mexican" because he is not). There was some fights between mexicans and puerto ricans before Sanchez-Gomez, but from what I understand, that fight is the one that started the rivalry. Oscar De La Hoya - $610.6 million on 12.6 million buys (18 events) most ppv sold in history Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History 1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million 2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million 3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million 4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million 5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million 6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million 7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million 8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million 9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million 10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million 11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million 12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million 13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million 14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million 15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million 16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million 17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million 18. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (5/07) 2.15 million buys = $120.0 million Totals: 12.6 million buys = $610.6 million i guess mexican were buying the ppv too

Just interested to know.... I guess both countries produce such excellent fighters and champions and since they have the same market in Vegas they usually end up on the opposing corners.That could be the reason but what fight started it all? Was it because of Dela Hoya controversial loss to Felix Tito Trinidad??? If there were previous discussions here in NSB please post the link... and if its ok who produced THE BEST ONE among all their champs??? for me its a toss between tito and JCC.. Oscar De La Hoya is not Mexican, nobody in Mexico cares if he loses or wins, when he wins nobody in Mexico celebrate (unless they are fans of him and not because he's "mexican" because he is not). There was some fights between mexicans and puerto ricans before Sanchez-Gomez, but from what I understand, that fight is the one that started the rivalry.

Funny how PR's "top boxers" (Camachoe, Benites, Gomes) were all druggies here come the hater. i can tell by the picture. what nationality are you?

:lol1: ............. sorry i was researching and i couldnt find the rest of the people i only found half

Wilfredo Gomez vs Raul Tirado (WBC super bantamweight) Wilfredo Gomez vs Roberto Rubaldino (WBC super bantamweight) Nelson Dieppa vs Ulises Solis (WBO light flyweight) Sammy Fuentes vs Fidel Avendano (WBO light welterweight) Sammy Fuentes vs Hector Lopez (WBO light welterweight) Wilfred Benitez vs Carlos Palomino (WBC welterweight) Wilfredo Gomez vs Carlos Zarate (WBC super bantamweight) Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Antonio Lopez (WBC super bantamweight) Wilfredo Gomez vs Juan Meza (WBC super bantamweight) Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor (WBC super bantamweight) John John Molina vs Manuel Medina (IBF super featherweight) Jose De Jesus vs Isidro Perez (WBO light flyweight) Jose De Jesus vs Fernando Martinez (WBO light flyweight) Jose Ruiz vs Armando Velasco (WBO super flyweight) Josue Camacho vs Eddie Vallejo (WBO light flyweight) Juan Manuel Lopez over Cesar Figueroa (WBO super bantamweight) Juan Manuel Lopez over Daniel Ponce De Leon (WBO super bantamweight) Miguel Cotto vs Alfonso Gomez (WBA welterweight) Felix Trinidad vs Ramon Campas (IBF welterweight) Hector Camacho vs Jose Luis Ramirez (WBC lightweight) Hector Camacho vs Rafael Limon (WBC super featherweight) Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares I (WBO light flyweight) Ivan Calderon vs Hugo Cazares II (WBO light flyweight) Ivan Calderon vs Lorenzo Trejo (WBO minimumweight) Ivan Calderon vs Roberto Carlos Leyva (WBO minimumweight) John John Molina vs Goyo Vargas (IBF super featherweight) Daniel Santos vs Antonio Margarito II (WBO light middleweight) Daniel Santos vs Ramon Luis Campas (WBO light middleweight) Edwin Rosario vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1 (WBC lightweight) Eric Morel vs Isidro Garcia (WBA flyweight) Eric Morel vs Gilberto Keb Baas (WBA flyweight) Esteban De Jesus vs Vicente Saldivar (WBC lightweight) Felix Trinidad vs Oscar De La Hoya (WBC/IBF welterweight) Alex Sanchez vs Victor Burgos I (WBO minimumweight) Alex Sanchez vs Oscar Andrade (WBO minimumweight) Alex Sanchez vs Rafael Orozco (WBO minimumweight) Alex Sanchez vs Tomas Rivera (WBO minimumweight) Alfredo Escalera vs Sigfredo Rodriguez (WBC super featherweight) Carlos De Leon vs Alvaro Yaqui Lopez (WBC cruiserweight) Carlos Ortiz vs Reymundo Battling Torres (World Light Welterweight)

This is some interesting shit. Thanks for making this thread. I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rican-Mexican_boxing_rivalry

Its a toss up between JCC and Salvador Sanchez for Mexico. Wildredo Gomez and Tito Trinidad for Puerto Rico.

so among those guys who was THE best? I'm sure different people have different fighters as being the best, it's best to make your own decision on this. JCC and Benitez probably rank highest on pound for pound lists from Mexico and PR respectively though.

Skillwise I think Sanchez was the best but JCC ranks higher on pound for pound lists. From PR, it's either Benitez or Gomez. so among those guys who was THE best?

Skillwise I think Sanchez was the best but JCC ranks higher on pound for pound lists. From PR, it's either Benitez or Gomez.

thanks guys ill watch these clips and read the thread when i get back home they will be great help for my personal understanding of the sports' rich history.. care to answer the second question?