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And what has Dirrell done to prove he belongs at the elite level? What has Dirrell done? Um that's a tough one. Oh I remember.....HE WON THE BELT BY FIGHTING IN THE RING!!! Where is Groves' belt??? Tough question huh? Don't worry I'll wait on the answer. LOL You guys don't know sh-t about boxing. LOL Be objective when making comments. Groves won't even beat Sakio Bika. He got stopped twice by Froch who isn't even that great. Jermain Taylor was destroying Froch until he got stopped in the 12th, and Andre Dirrell clearly beat him but didn't get the nod, because he wasn't the home town fighter. See....when you come to the states you get a fair shake on a fight (ex: Porter / Brook), however USA fighters literally have to knock someone out to get a fair shake in the UK (ex: Dirrell / Froch, Carson Jones / Amir Khan). This isn't a rant....this is the truth...if you don't like it....too bad....deal with it. I hate to hear clowns talk that don't know a d@mn thing about boxing. Stop it please.

Talk of this fight is way past its prime Why is anyone still talking about a fight with Floyd? He's retired and in his 40's. Canelo fans let it go. You lost...deal with it and get over it. People have a short memory span. Here are the facts for anyone who was either too young or doesn't remember the events leading up to how the fight was actually made 1. Golden Boy, particularly Oscar De La Hoya called out Floyd, continuously for months after Canelo won his fight against Shane Mosley. It was not the other way around. 2. Canelo was 154 and Floyd was @ 147 3. Golden Boy suggested the catchweight clause in order to get the fight. When that occured Floyd agreed to the fight 4. Canelo was 42-0, I'll repeat it 42-0 when they fought. Can someone please, please explain to me how a fighter is considered inexperienced with 42 fights??? I'll wait. The fact is Canelo got beat by a better boxer, period. A prime Floyd and a prime Canelo, floyd wins the fight every time. Canelo is too flat-footed. Floyd would touch him and turn him all night just like the first fight. The fight was not close, not close at all, so why is another fight even warranted? It's actually pretty funny when you think about. Is Canelo and Golden Boy still that butt hurt over a fight from way back in 2013. Did Floyd give a Canelo a "boo-boo" that still hurts?? Sad man....Canelo just can't let that @ss whipping go.

Exactly!! Facts!!!

Roy is right all you haters As much as you guys love to hate...Roy Jones is right. While he might be a boxer that is way beyond his prime, he is still a boxer. And with that being said, he has more knowledge in his pinky finger than most of us have put together. Truth is this...Roy is right and if you some of you guys could think a little more objectively instead of so subjectively you would understand that too. Right now Pacquiao is the sh-t...we all know that, but the key is can he remain there. Say what you want about Mayweather or Mosley...both of those guys beat Pacquiao. If Pacquiao wants to fight welterweight fighters, then why put all rules on a weight at welterweight. If that's the case and correct me if i'm wrong, but isnt welterweight 147. Don't call out fighters then expect them to come down in weight just to make it and easier fight for yourself. If I were Cotto, Mayweather, or Mosely....I tell Pacquiao to come to 147 or shut the f--k up. Period.

Thanks fir giving us the inside scoop man..... Lmao rotfl Manny didn't take the 40 million because it was a bogus offer then and still would be now, he was the p4p king and neck in neck with mauweather in ppv buys. Now he is number 2 p4p and only slightly behind in ppv's which warrants a 55/45 split, 60/40 if he just wants to get screwed but he said he would take it to get the fight made. Secondly, hes been doing vada testin his last 3 fights which is way more strict than usda which mayweather uses, and Manny looks as ripped as ever and just as explosive. Vada does hair testing too which goes back to training camp. Thirdly, if mayweather wont fight him hes talking about going down in weight, why is that suspicious? He already fights way above where he should be. He is a natural 140 pounder and that's where the big fights are. The big fights left for him at 147 are all managed by haymon who wont let his fighters within arms reach of a top rank fighter and especially mammy pacquiao. How is it suspicious when he's taking the most strict drug testing in the world and hes still the same weight and more ripped and stronger than ever. go look up his YouTube videos of his weigh ins going all the way back to de la Hoya, there is no difference in any one of them! He is as ripped now that's hes been doing the testing as in any fight. He also doesn't have the tell tale signs of steroid abuse. Acne, temper tantrums. Enlarged internal organs which would make his midsection look huge. His head doesn't look any bigger hes got a mop of hair now and a full beard and hes not weight srained so his face is normal.instead of all shrunk in. Those are the facts and you do not have any inside info.... What you said has been said before idiot lol Maybe you'll believe Pacquiao's own trainer. Learn to listen kid when adults are speaking. So are you still saying that the first set of negotiations were bogus See the below link then respond??? Thought not? http://www.boxingscene.com/roach-admits-pacquiao-fumble-first-mayweather-talks--85698 Consider this a Xmas gift

pacman EVEN BETTER!!! HOW ABOUT WE LET MANNY HAVE SOME OF HIS SPECIAL SUPER JUICE AND FIGHT HIM. SHOULD BE AN EVEN FIGHT AT THAT POINT LOL!!! OH ONLY AT A CATCH WEIGHT. OH I FORGOT....HE'S GOT A "SHOULDER INJURY" LOL MANNNY PACQUIAO = SORE LOSER / CHEATER / MAN OF GOD?? / LIAR / TAX EVASION #3 PFP "MONEY MAY" = RICHEST ATHLETE IN THE WORLD (Check Forbes) #1 PFP

mayweather beats hatton 7 days a week Wow....some of you guys must really be stuck on stupid....Do you really think that Hatton can beat Mayweather? Heck no....Why do you Hatton fans insist on watching him get @ss whipped...Then he's just going to be another overrated Brittish fighter...This is so funny to me....

You don't know s--t about boxing. Please explain how Canelo WASN'T in his prime when he fought Mayweather? He was 23, 40 and 0, the bigger guy, the stronger guy, and the younger guy. Floyd was smaller the better boxer and 36. Canelo lost. He lost....accept it and deal with it. Making excuses is so d@mn petty. he lost...stop making excuses....that's some pu--y sore loser sh-t.

LOL you feel better :-) Damn....do something about those anger issues LMAO These pac fans are sensitive. You would think they're on the payroll LOL Hillarious. Hey...Muah...I still love you baby. Merry Xmas :-p You can always tell a person's intelligence by the way they respond in these forums. LOL #PC#Gangsters

Who is Khan to dictate I'm sorry, but I must be missing something here. Who is Khan to dictate who should fight who. He is no position to determine who should fight who. Clearly he wants to take the easier of the fights before fighting Bradley or Alexander. Yes Maidana is a big puncher, but it's easy to telegraph his punches coming in.

dirrell just got the belt and now he's *****ing about who hes fighting. MFr sounds shook. Renan St Juste was a freakin nobody and it was a wbc title eliminator. smh Someone said that Dirrell doesn't deserve to lace Froch's boots?? Are you kidding me. Andre Dirrell clearly gave Froch a boxing lesson but didn't get the nod. Froch isn't the best at 168, but he should get a fight with Anthony Dirrell before Groves does. The last time I checked, losing 2 fights in row doesn't earn you a right to fight for an eliminator?? I don't know, call me stupid but that truly doesn't make any sense. Have groves fight Saiko Bika or even a shop worn Mikkel Kessler and see how he fairs in those. I think Bika stops him early unless groves get on his toes and box. BTW THIS ISN'T A USA vs EUROPE rant, instead a boxer vs boxer one. Everyone knows if Andre and Carl had of been on neutral ground Froch would have lost hands down. BE OBJECTIVE PEOPLE and stop with the unnecessary hating.

Max Kellerman, boxing analyst and part of the HBO broadcast team, says Floyd Mayweather Jr. is going to need an opponent on the level of Manny Pacquiao if he intends to block the potential Miguel Cotto vs. Saul Alvarez showdown from securing the lucrative Cinco De Mayo date of May 2nd. For a few years now, Mayweather has been able to block anyone from taking that date from him. Cotto-Canelo, considered by many as the second biggest fight in boxing, is viewed as being strong enough to take away the May 2 date from Mayweather. Click Here To Read More] That makes total sense considering Mayweather beat both. LOL

Valuev needs to retire Valuev needs to retire because he's not into the sport for the right reasons. You say you want to be a champion again, but when you are offered another shot at a title you turn it down. Not to mention that the amount is more than you have ever made for any other fight? Sounds like you're a little scared to lose again to me. But that's just my opinion. Valuev just pack it in if you're going to waste the fans time.

Public don't believe any of the Arum, Roach hype machine OMG!!!! Roach, I realize Arum is trying to cash Pacquiao out, but DAMN man....get off Mayweather's nuts. Pac and his team are starting sound desperate. Which fight did they promote more, the Pacquiao vs Algeri fight, or the Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight. I challenge you to find more articles related to Pac / Alg then Pac / May during that time. Yes, we all know Pacman needs the paycheck, which is why he's fighting in China to take advantage of the MAJOR tax breaks. People, please don't be fooled by the Arum machine. This is coming from someone within the know. Because i'm the good person I am....You know what...I'm going to enlighten you..... Arum is cashing him out. They have avoided this fight for years because Pac was the cash cow, SO THEY COULDN'T RISK A LOSS BY MAYWEATHER AT THE TIME BECAUSE OF THE $$$ HE WAS BRINGING IN FOR ARUM (from present going back roughly 7 years). Does anyone remember Arum and GoldenBoy going to court when Pac was trying to accept a contract from GB???(4-5 years previously)?? See, at this point he's got too many others in the Arum stable at this point to replace him (i.e. Terrence Crawford, Mickey Garcia, etc). Say what you want....put yourself in the mindset of the fighter....in this case Pac. If you know you're the baddest man on the planet....explain why you don't take the 40 million offered a few years ago on Twitter (Facebook also...some of you didn't know that small fact) by Mayweather, especially if you know you can win the fight? Please explain to me why you don't take that $$$ to prove you're the best....especially considering when it was more money then you've ever made in your life? EVERYONE please don't use the common excuse that "He didn't have to bow down Mayweather", one (that's the one created by the Arum machine). Non boxing knowledge having fans...because that is simply not the truth; I stress I'M NOT A MAYWEATHER FAN!!!! To be honest, this was not about Pacman, it was more about Arum. He didn't want the fight, because he didn't think Pac could beat Mayweather (having Promoted both of them obviously at different times and knew the caliber of Mayweather). He threatened to sue Pac if he tried to take the fight without him representing him as his promoter (yep, bet you didn't know that (you guys are funny)) so as we know Pacman couldn't take the fight. Now boxing aficionados, and i'm sure some of you guys are really young....a little 101 here....does anyone remeber when Arum stated and I quote; "Mayweather was best thing since Ali" (do your research)? Honestly, who thinks this Pac version would beat Canelo at this point? Another point, normally, humans naturally get bigger as we get older right? So does no one find it odd that Pac is talking about going down in weight as opposed to going up? Has anyone taken the time to look at Pac's body structure presently (including the head) as opposed to say 3-5 years ago? Don't believe me....do your own research. I just really get tired of people not knowing the real truth. Okay, one more then i'm done....Pac's previous strength and conditioning coach (who will remain nameless :-) a really good guy) was required to sign a gag order on any and everything related to Pacman...however he only signed thinking he would be with Pac until he retired. LMAO....people really don't have a clue. I just wanted to enlighten some of you (even though you still won't believe) as to what's really going on. You guys think you know but you really don't. Don't believe everything you see or read in the media and / or websites, because quite frankly it's just fairy tale. Here are the facts my friends: Pacquiao was on Steroids (He was also on the Algeri fight but not the previous 5) Arum is cashing him out Mayweather and Pac will fight on May 2 at MGM Roach himself has told his personal friends he knows Pac wont beat Mayweather, but it will be a helluva check Arum next anticipated cash cow is Terrence Crawford (Man, I'm going to be in trouble for giving out this sh-t) Be good everyone. Enjoy it before this is pulled down. LOL Signed: If you only knew who I am Happy holidays :-)

Dude - Everything isn't about race. It's about the fact that 2 WELTERWEIGHTS are fighting for a Junior Middleweight title. What about all of the current junior middles that were already highly ranked in the division?? Don't you think they would like to fight for the title. It's pure boxing politics and nothing else. When you bring race into the picture regarding this situation, it only makes you look narrow-minded. Stop it...

Dirrell isn't fit to lace Froch's boots. I hope him & Froch have a fight, easy night's work for Carl & another belt to add to the collection. Dirrell doesn't deserve to lace Froch's boots?? Are you kidding me? Andre Dirrell clearly gave Froch a boxing lesson but didn't get the nod. Froch isn't the best at 168, but he should get a fight with Anthony Dirrell before Groves does. The last time I checked, losing 2 fights in row doesn't earn you a right to fight for an eliminator?? I don't know, call me stupid but that truly doesn't make any sense. Have groves fight Saiko Bika or even a shop worn Mikkel Kessler and see how he fairs in those. I think Bika stops Groves early unless he gets on his toes and box. BTW THIS ISN'T A USA vs EUROPE rant, instead a boxer vs boxer one. Everyone knows if Andre and Carl had of been on neutral ground, Froch would have lost hands down. BE OBJECTIVE PEOPLE and stop with the unnecessary hating.

3 reasons he doesn't get a shot. 1 - He hasn't deserved or earned it. 2 - Every time he steps up to championship level, he either loses or get KTFO. 3 - Does anyone think he can beat this current version of Madiana. We all know this isn't the same version of Maidana that Khan fought and Khan still avoids him and doesn't even mention the man's name. KING KHAN - Earn your shot just like everyone else. This is not hating on Khan, this is the truth. Before anyone argues at this post, be objective and asking yourself truly what has he done to deserve it. Beating Collazo?? Please!! Fight your countryman Brook, and let's see how that turns out first. You have to walk before you crawl Khan and you know it. Stop trying to cash out, and please stop trying to avoid competition to get to Floyd. The entire reason Khan is avoiding truly live bodies is because he scared of getting beat. I mean, who wouldn't want another tune up before fighting the pound for pound king. Khan be honest with yourself. You and David Haye need to stop running this bullsh-t on the public please.

There is absolutely no reason for a rematch. in case anyone forgot, Golden Boy was calling Mayweather out for the 1st fight not the other way around. TBH Canelo won maybe 2 rounds and that's a stretch. When they fought Canelo was the younger man and the bigger man, oh and the stronger man. If the fight was close, then I honestly I could see it (even though Canelo is technically a cheater), but he really got his @ss schooled and that is all it is to it. He's not the only one Mayweather has done that to. He's should just take the L and move on. And besides he's at Middleweight going to Super Middle. Let's be fair here.

You will see a different Khan with Freddie Roach. Of course Hatton would say that Barrera will win....they're friends....He's supposed to say that. One thing we do know for sure is that Hatton will get his @ss spanked when steps in the ring with Pacquiao. He surely dosen't want any more of Mayweather even though he keeps asking for it. Why keep asking for another @ss whoppin LMAO

Quick quesiton....Where was Pac when Mayweather came out and offered him 40 million for a fight. More then he's ever made in his life? Seriously...Mayweather came out and said i'll fight you as long as Arum is not involved. Kids you must stop believing everything you read. Don't you people understand that Pac is using Mayweather's name to promote his fight because the projected sales for this fight are extremely low. Who turns down a fight for more money then they've ever made in their life in one purse?? Pac lies Mayweather lies, but $$$ and numbers don't. Mayweather is the highest paid athlete in the world and that's a fact. You don't get to that point without doing something to earn it.

It's hilarious at how the haters hate. Floyd is a different animal than Bronner. We all know that. Haters even though I know you have a hating job to do....Mayweather is best....Deal With it. Do we really think Maidana has a chance??? I guess about as much chance as the much bigger Canelo had. But I guess he ran from him too right? When you guys actually learn how the fight game works and stop the hating cuz you don't like the dude, just maybe then you'll understand. No one compared Bronner to Mayweather except for the Media and Bronner himself. Learn about boxing before you make comments that don't make sense. The people on here really need to grow the f--k up. If you don't know anything about boxing, then just STFU...seriously

Are you kidding me? Pacquiao beats those guys easily. They are slow flat footed come forward fighters, that's who pacquiao does best against. Those two are tailor made for pacquiao. Just look at his resume he has beaten many fighters better than them. Maidana beat broker and now he's a top guy? Lol I hope al haymon lets maidana out of the cage to fight Manny, he'd have to get another good win in sure he wouldn't fight him coming off 2 losses. Pacquiao would be heavily favored against either of them. Maidana isn't a p4p fighter and is barely top 10 welterweight, canelo is bottom of most peoples top ten p4p list. Manny beat Bradley easily who was number 3 p4p and Bradley has the style that troubles Manny. Manny schooled him 2 times. I could see how someone may think canelo has a shot against Manny because of the size difference. Canelo weighs 170ish fight night while pacquiao is around 145. That's a 25 lb difference although that's nothing new for Pac he would still crush him, but if you honestly think maidana has any shot in the world you are smoking something Maidana is top 10 because of Robert Garcia. Trust me if he was such a slouch Khan would have gotten in there with again. He wont even mention his name to this day.

mayweather will win I can't wait until the day after the fight to see all of you Mayweather haters eat your words. Mayweather is not Pacman....and you will see what the true lb for lb king can and will do after a 2 year layoff. You know....the job of a hater must be really tough.....I love it.....All you JMM fans....don't make me call Chris John.....so he can whip JMM @ss again. Remember this.....he's undefeated for a reason....the difference in the @ss whooping that Pac gave JMM will be that Pretty Boy / Money / lb for lb Mayweather will whip his @ss slow....and prolong that butt whoopin. JMM won't be the same after this fight....Of course he's going to whine and say that he got robbed...just like he always does....but one things for sure...Pretty boy will be the winner. Don't be surprised if JMM retires after the fight. Love him or hate him (haters included LOL) he is going to bust that @ss. Save your shit talking for the day after....We can all wish for things to happen...you know....1 million bucks, fancy cars...and a win over Mayweather LOL It is what it is....wishful thinking. WILL THE REAL MAYWEATHER FANS PLEASE STAND UP!!!

The problem that no here is willing to acknowledge is that GGG shouldn't even be asking to fight Mayweather; outside of $$ of course. 1st of all, he should be looking for people his in his weight class or higher. He started talking about fighting Ward over a year ago, then as soon as Ward called GGG and his team out...they start making excuses. DON'T LET YOUR TEAM TALK **** IF YOU AREN'T WILLING TO BACK IT UP ONCE SOMEONE CALLS YOUR PUNK ASS OUT. WARD / OAKLAND, CALI DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THE TALK. WARD AND MAYWEATHER DESTROYS GGG!!!! Note to GGG: Fight people in your weight class or move up, if you feel like you're such a bad ass. NOVICE FANS: POWER IS NOT WHAT WINS FIGHTS.....if this unnecessary fight does materialize, it would be a boxing lesson by Mayweather and UD win. Don't hate the top player (and highest paid athlete in the world), hate the game. GGG IS A CLOWN THAT LETS HIS MANAGEMENT TEAM DO ALL HIS TALKING......TIRED OF IT AND IT'S GETTING OLD

Are you kidding me? Pacquiao beats those guys easily. They are slow flat footed come forward fighters, that's who pacquiao does best against. Those two are tailor made for pacquiao. Just look at his resume he has beaten many fighters better than them. Maidana beat broker and now he's a top guy? Lol I hope al haymon lets maidana out of the cage to fight Manny, he'd have to get another good win in sure he wouldn't fight him coming off 2 losses. Pacquiao would be heavily favored against either of them. Maidana isn't a p4p fighter and is barely top 10 welterweight, canelo is bottom of most peoples top ten p4p list. Manny beat Bradley easily who was number 3 p4p and Bradley has the style that troubles Manny. Manny schooled him 2 times. I could see how someone may think canelo has a shot against Manny because of the size difference. Canelo weighs 170ish fight night while pacquiao is around 145. That's a 25 lb difference although that's nothing new for Pac he would still crush him, but if you honestly think maidana has any shot in the world you are smoking something What we do know is that Pac had his chance to fight Canelo but wanted him to take the fight at 150?? Canelo said Nada in which he should have. Yes young man you're right he Pac does do well against those fighters, but there's just too much power from both of those guys. See you're looking at it all wrong...those fights simply would never happen but not for the reasons you say so...because what you DON'T realize is...Pacman is TAILORED MADE for those fighters not the other way around. You're looking at the glass half empty young man?

Mayweather is Tops in the game!!! PERIOD! This is why Floyd should get the larger cut than Pacquiao when they fight. Even though Pacquiao will lose convincingly, Floyd is clearly the bigger draw. Both Freddie Roach and Pacquiao can gripe and complain all they want. But the point is this: PEOPLE LIE BUT NUMBERS DON'T!!! Mayweather, not Pacquiao generated the highest grossing PPV amount in 2009. PERIOD. And to the PBF haters....Marquez said, and I quote "Floyd will pick Pacquiao apart" And before you start your hatefest...this is coming from a fellow counter puncher in marquez...That's if Pacquiao can get by Cotto. LET THE HATING BEGIN!!!!

Give Mayweather credit Ricky Hatton (43-1, 31KOs), fresh off the first loss of his pro career, claims that Floyd Mayweather Jr. fouled him to death when the two fought last weekend at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. details] When are you guys going to stop making excuses for Hatton. He lost so just get over it. He got beat by the better man plain and simple. Stop with the wussie excuses as to why he lost. Floyd Mayweather is better than Ricky Hatton. If they fought 100 times, Hatton would lose 100 times. You act as if Hatton is the cleanest fighter in the world. He got beat at his own game. "AND STILL POUND FOR POUND CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!!!! PRETTY BOY FLOYYYYYD "MONEY" MAYWEATHERRRRR" Doesn't that sound beautfiul....LOL!!! Don't hate the player...hate the game LMAO!!!

You're right, you're not a Mayweather fan. You're a Mayweather parrot. Thanks for parroting his points to us again. If you knew anything about boxing and understood cutting weight and the differences in weight at the weigh in and at the fight, you might actually stand a chance of understanding Pacquiao's career progression. You don't, you're just another ignorant tool sucking on the Mayweather kok. LOL you feel better :-) Damn....do something about those anger issues LMAO These pac fans are sensitive. You would think they're on the payroll LOL Hillarious. Hey...Muah...I still love you baby. Merry Xmas :-p

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May - Pac 2 will be much much worse for Pac Please!!! Does anyone want to see another Mayweather blowout. Hate him or love him, Mayweather always performs even better in rematches. Everyone knows that. Pac fans, do you really want to see your savior get beat worse for a second time? Pac needs to move on and stop with the lying, whining and complaining. Pac lost and that is all it is to it. He claims to be extremely religious, yet he lies to his loyal "Pac Fans" and to the public. Does that sound like a man of religion?? I must of been looking at a different fight, because it didn't appear he had shoulder issues when he was winging shots in the 4th round. People, please don't be duped (again) by the "Pacquiao Media Hype Machine". They are trying to conceive a plan in order to generate hype for a rematch. I know this comment hurts, but Pac is simply not intelligent enough to deal with a tactician like Mayweather. Pac knows one thing, that is to move forward and through punches. THAT'S IT. Once you give him angle and he throws his combos, he's leave himself open for the overhand counters every time....EVERY TIME!!! We keep saying the Mayweather was running. Here's the difference. For one, this is not a toughman competition with people winging shots until someone falls. Running is when you have the fight in the bag and basically not throwing shots when you have the fight in the bag. Moving backwards while consistently punching someone in the face (i.e. please see Pacquiao's face post fight) while you're being pursued is called...WAIT FOR IT!!.....Boxing!!! So for someone who was running so much, he sure did stop Pac from coming in. Like the HBO commentator Max Kellerman said...."he must have been hitting you with something because you stop coming in on the inside"??? I wonder what that could have been?? Must have been those phantom punches that Pac was "not" getting with. Yeah right.... Pac fans I know it hurts, but that's just your pride screwing with you. It will all feel better with time. LOL