What do you mean by rightfully so? No fighter should be commanding that kind of money for fighting Ricardo Mayorga at this stage. Sorry. You can sit here and say, "well, that's the way it is" and I'm cool with that. Doesn't it make it right or good. Just goes to show the sad state of affairs in the sport today.
No, because outside May and Pac, he is the biggest draw in boxing today... He can easily fill up Madison Square Garden against any fighter.. He did pretty well in Yankee stadium too..He generates revenue that justify his paycheck...
The answer is simple.
HBO turned down Cotto on that date for Martinez vs.....nobody.
It was either put it on PPV or don't televise it at all.
Independent PPV's are great for the sport, at some point people are going to have to understand the logistics of it.
It's not like Arum wants to risk his own money to put it on PPV as opposed to getting paid a license fee by a network. He's risking is own money to get his fighters exposure.
With all the terrible things Arum does for the sport, this is actually a MAJOR contribution he makes to boxing.
Thats the reason why Top Rank does better in building up fighters than any promoter because they can televise and produce their own shows.. They are not subservient on HBO and Showtime for TV dates..
look at all his last opponents they have all been good fighters katsidis mayweather diaz casamayor none have been a tune up just hard fight after hard fight. He deserves a break in the form of morales and a good payday. But yeah i agree he needs to stfu he will not get the fight if he keeps on obsesing over pac just focus on your own career and if you keep winning he shot will come.
Katsidis and Diaz are tuneups.. He has not done anything since his last fight with May..
In fact, he has not fought a top fighter since moving up at LW... Yeah I said it...
At least we are going to see Arum and King in a promotion again. Plus with Mayorga, it will be an exciting press conference.. Though I cant really the same thing about the fight.
casamayor was the lw champ diaz was the no 1 contender and katsidis was the no 1 also
He chose to start off with Casamayor instead of the undefeated Diaz. Casamayor was the beneficiary of a robbery against Sta Cruz 2 fights before that.
Then he chose to fight Diaz instead of Campbell who had just defeated Diaz. Then he chose to fight Katsidis who doesn't have one significant win at the weight instead of fighting Soto.
Now he is choosing to fight Morales instead of like many JMM fans have said he can, move up in weight to jr welter and dominated the likes of a Maidana, Ortiz, Peterson, but he didnt.
Bob arum is the reason alot of these fights are not getting made. Your just too stupid, blind, and drunk to see.
So what does that have to do with your statement of:
Bob Arum doesn't want him to fight Mayweather because he knows Mayweather vs Cotto would out sell Pac vs Mosley any day.
He is taking all of Mayweather 's options away.
In fact, what does that have to do with this thread..
The list of nominations has been trimmed down to 7, and Pac is included..But he is up against top competition:
Football star Lionel Messi, Spanish World Cup winner Andres Iniesta, Spanish tennis star Rafael Nadal, Germany’s Formula One world champion Sebastian Vettel and LA Lakers’ Kobe Bryant
http://www.laureus.com/awards
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=647372&publicationSubCategoryId=69
I doubt Pac beats Nadal and Bryant..Its a toss up between those two..
How does one get nominated?
There is a two-part voting process to find the winners of the Laureus World Sports Awards. Firstly, a Selection Panel of the world’s leading sports editors, writers and broadcasters votes to create a shortlist of six nominations in various categories including Laureus World Sportsman of the Year, Laureus World Sportswoman of the Year, Laureus World Team of the Year, Laureus World Breakthrough of the Year and Laureus World Comeback of the Year. Then the members of the Laureus World Sports Academy vote by secret ballot to select the Award winners.
http://www.laureus.com/awards
If the consumer wants to see a Cotto fight, it is his or her right to pay $40 for it.
Outside of proposing an upheaval to the way the boxing business work, I'm not sure where you're trying to go with this. To me, having an option is better than not having an option, especially when I'm not the one risking money on it.
Either way, we're running in circles, might as well agree to disagree.
Puerto Ricans are going to watch this fight because they support Cotto.. Besides the target audience are Puerto Ricans just like in any of his tune-up fights. There is some nationalistic theme when it comes to foreign fighter.. the way Canadians support Pascal, British support Hatton, Filipinos support Pac, and now Puerto Ricans support Cotto...
No what? What about this fight justifies it being on PPV?
No.. that any fighter should not be getting paid that type of money in fighting Mayorga.. But having said that.. Cotto is justified in asking for a higher paycheck because he is a draw, whether we like it or not....
Bob Arum doesn't want him to fight Mayweather because he knows Mayweather vs Cotto would out sell Pac vs Mosley any day.
He is taking all of Mayweather 's options away.
Tell me when is Money May's next fight??
What were the largest draws of 2009, 2008, 2007? Just the largest.
All boxing.. 2007 Floyd vs Oscar (2.4M), 2008 Pac vs Oscar(1.2M), 2009 Pac vs Cotto (1.2M)
I don't have to... your stance throughout the last three pages is that Pacquiao is clean because of his NSAC test results. That is the fact you've leaned upon for your defense of Pacquiao being clean.
If that's what you think my real argument is about, then you should stop arguing with me because you are freakin' lost on the discussion..
No, You've stated that NSAC testing decides whether a fighter is clean or not. You stated that Pacquiao is clean because he tested clean, just as Mosley. It's that simple.
No, I didnt say that.. Try browsing my very first post in this thread to figure it out..
You were clearing missing the point man.
Give him a heads up that he was CLEARLY missing the point that a "NSB PED crew" were making concerning Mosley NEVER failing a drug test while you are at it. It was a pretty basic point that he clearly missed or just chose to miss.
Dazed and davis were the first to reply to my post. They initiated the argument...So its natural that they should be arguing with what I was sayin'.. Apparently they didnt.. They just want to post for the sake of posting...
First of all, Mosley didn't admit it until about 6 years after it happened. So you're saying we should wait six years? Are you that f*cking dumb?
Yes, unless someone comes out that somebody saw Pac taking those shots then we should start pointing the finger.. Right now, its just all speculations..
Your point is false. The idea that he's clean is not fact, dummy. I'm talking to you like a kid because it's clear you think like one. Passing an NSAC test doesn't make you clean and if you haven't figured that out, time to re-visit 5th grade, Mikey. You probably already have.
Prove that he is not clean other than an opinion..
I have the NSAC results that proves that he is clean..
How does passing a test make you clean? Was Mosley clean when he passed the same tests?
I said from the beginning that Pac was clean because he passed the test which is a fact.. No circumstances that would have proven otherwise...
My post was not speculation. It is a fact that the tests given by the boxing commissions is flawed in testing for present day drugs. That is not arguable. I do not have provide quotes that Manny is clean or dirty. Your point was that Manny Pacquaio is clean because he has passed every test. I showed you the flaw in your argument. Again, simple and to the point. Your so-called fact is a opinion, becasue the boxing commissions tests are flawed. Therefore, we do not know if Manny is clean or not. Your statement is flawed.
He is clean because he pass the test, and has no direct proof like Mosley saying that he is not.. Irregardless whether the testing is flawed or not,all you have are speculations which is based on nothing...
You can argue about the testing being flawed but it has nothing to do with Pac being guilty of anything...
Don't be naive you clown.
Manny made SFW without compromising muscle-mass.....
2008-03-15 (129) Juan Manuel Marquez
And I saw the Hoya fight you smart cunt.
" Did you have callipers on hand at the scales measuring his bf percentage? "
What a fukkin idiot kid.
How about I use your approach.....
FACT:
Pacroid is a blatant steroid cheat, he has been using hgh/epo since JMM II.
You don't like me saying that? then, prove it's not true.....
I can draw whatever conclusions I like, because Manny will not take the test.
That's right, retard..Try to draw your own conclusion.. But don't try to pass it as facts..
And it's also a fact that that's irrelevant. The bottom line is, it's an opinion that he's clean, just like it's an opinion that he's dirty. But if you want to stand by the "he's passed all tests", just remember who he's facing next.
Nope, the opinion that he was clean is relevant since he passed the test administered to him just like every other fighter.... Until proven otherwise that still remains consistent..
No, it doesn't. But I'm beginning to see why jro left. You are dumb as sh*t.
Good night.
Yes it does... And its a good thing you left...Try to get some sleep and maybe you can get a clear perspective on what I am really tryin to say..