Sergio wins this fight in comfortable fashion. The size and speed of Sergio would be too much for Canelo. Not to mention Martinez was a really good boxer to boot.
They will cheer and support anyone who can beat that TOOL.
People didn't hate on Leonard, Hagler, Trinidad.
Why Floyd??Because of his behaviour.
Why do think he is a "TOOL"? People thought Ali's behavior was outrageous. Put it this way I think when it comes to our jobs we all want to be judged based on our performance in the office and not what we do off duty. And keep in mind the fighters you mentioned were not outspoken. I appreciate your view bro.
race issues pertaining to this fight argument are pathetic to say the least....... those who bring up race issues are under the SLAVE MENTALITY.....
get out of it, wake the fvck up, and be your own damn man.......
this is how you sum up this fight....... it was a FIX! you got two set up guys and a fall guy........ mayweather and cortez were the set up guys and ortiz was the fall guy........
all the professionalism inside that ring, with all the years of experience, and that is the out come we got!?!?! unprofessionalism and confusion, and a WIDE OPEN CHIN!!!! with the ref not looking!?!? WTF!?!?
and now any comment about floyd being a dikchead opportunist that robbed us of the fight continuing... is now racist!?!?!
if thats the case then i must be a grand wizard clansmen for all the criticizing i've done of floyd over the years.............. which has absolutely nothing to do with his race............
but i must be the crazy racist is with a black and filipino child then........ gtfohwtws!!!
This isn't about the critique or analysis of a boxer/athlete's performance but the way the media viewed an actions that was totally within the realms of the sport. What Mayweather did was not illegal but he's being vilified as if he did. Thanks
Great thoughts!!
Brothers!! those agree with me and those who don't. I think it's important for Americans (of all nationalities) to deal with each other fairly. For my brothers who said I was using the race card - I was absolutely not. I was pointing out the hypocrisy that keeps blacks in one corner and whites in the other. If it's legal, can it still be unfair? This is a boxing forum and I respect that but let's broaden the scope of our discussions to help this country truly meets its potential.
Please share your thoughts and brothers let's be adult and courteous. Let's stay away from disrespectful comment's we're better than that.
what mayweather did wrong was he took away the rest of the fight......... thats what he did.....
if all his fans are happy with that outcome, the way he garnered his win, then fine, but for those who wanted to see boxing and see the fight unfold organically, floyd ruined that from ever happening.....
i would be impressed if floyd got the ko when ortiz was paying attention and or had his guard up ready to fight, not looking to see what in the hell floyd tasted like with his kisses, and not waiting for joe cortez to stop looking at pdiddy in the crowd, looking for maybe an autograph........
it's sad that the issue gets brought up about mayweather, he's not the issue, just a small part, the big issue is ortiz and cortez.........
Mayweather didn't take anything away from the game. He beat his opponent, plain and simple. I know people like to see two men beat each other to a pulp for the entire fight but Ortiz didn't hold up his end of the bargain. If the other guy doesn't want to fight how can and why should Mayweather stop boxing.
Does anyone think Ortiz was looking for an exit, like he did against Maidana? I think that's another post :) let's keep to this topic.
If Floyd is white with that kind of attitude....he will be reviled.
What type of attitude and is there an example of a extremely talented high profile white athlete that the media goes after? Thanks for your comment bro
Just think about the silly explanation that you just gave. Ortiz gets hit by his opponent, then immediately looks to the ref for confirmation that the fight is on(nevermind the fact the ref had already resumed the fight). You people keep crying about Cortez not doing his job properly as the ref, but where's the criticism for Ortiz not doing his job as a pro prize fighter? Fighting within the rules is part of his job, and so is protecting himself at all times. I see nothing but excuses/passes for Ortiz, and it's all his fault.
Why isn't anyone criticizing Ortiz? He's the one who didn't do his job.
stop playing victim..cause alot of blacks were saying Mayweather knocked that sp!c the fuk out!!!! and other racial slurs..Its not right that blacks play victim when they are the most racist b@stards out there :bottle:
I think you obviously misunderstood the entire point of the initial post. No one is crying or complaining this is a mature conversation about a topic that's a lot bigger than a boxing match. Now you can either open your mind, if you would like to make this country a better place. Or just keep your immature comments to yourself.
Its impossible to put it any better then you did.If Floyd lost these clowns would have been making threads about how "blacks fighters are falling" and jumping for joy.These clowns are just jealous mad that fighters of their race suck Gremlin balls.
Thank you bro!! I appreciate the input.
Exactly the opposite is true. :nonono:
If Ortiz would have sucker-punched Mayweather and knocked him out like that, I shudder to think how much b1tching and crying there would be about it! :bottle:
The media nearly always sides with African-American athletes, whether they are right or wrong, and they show MUCH less respect for Hispanic and White athletes.
People in the US media have been going on and on about the headbutt from Ortiz. But they say little or nothing about Andre Ward's blatently deliberate headbutts, including the one that ended the fight with Mikkel Kessler!
And the HBO commentators didn't even mention the headbutt from Andre Berto that cut Dejan Zaveck.
That's for your post bro; but I don't see much evidence that the media sides with blacks a majority of the time. But beyond that the media should simply be fair and equal.
You're full of it. Ortiz was looking right at Mayweather when Mayweather hit him with the 1st left hand. He didn't look away until he got hit. There was nothing unsportsmanlike from Mayweather. The fight had resumed and Mayweather was ready to fight instead of hugging and kissing. The intentional headbutts were unsportsmanlike, not the legal punches. The only person who deserves blame is Ortiz.
I'm with you on that, that's why I say he wanted to find a way out.
Yeah, the comments (bigotry) here are very immature and crasp. I'm mexican american and I do not agree with what Ortiz did and can totally understand Mayweather's action.
It wasn't the best decision, but it was justifiable and more importantly, legal. Mayweather has done nothing wrong but win (by any means nessesary) in the confines of the governining bodies' rules and regulations.
Was Ortiz looking for a way out?? I don't think so. Do I think that he was frusterated as hell and acted as result of the frustration? Yes. Classless and immature? Yes. Deserved what he got as a result? I think so. As much as people hate Mayweather and can probably be the most hated athlete; in this situation, he shouldn't be the scapegoat. Logically, I can't see anyone argue that.
My brother JBell11, I wasn't implying that anyone is crying racism. The issue is how the media viewed this event. How Ortiz comes off as the victim who did something that are on the books as being out of bounds and his opponent who did everything within the lines.
great post. i agree its more about floyd being hated rather than race. its frustrating when people go straight to race card & choose to ignore floyd's actions that lead to him being hated.
joe, vic, & floyd are to blame.
personally, i wouldve rather seen the fight go on so we can see floyd put on a show... but apparently, people here are content with being robbed from seeing a good fight.
Bro, that is the question. What exactly did Mayweather do wrong? What actions are you referring to?
Did you ask Andre Ward to do the same and go up and fight stevenson (who called him many times) or Kovalev??? you have double standards and little brain , also AW said to FLoyd that they can meet at 160 , what did you think about that ?
AW said he needs tune up fights before he goes on to fight a live body, he said 3 at least , so no one is running from now one.
regarding GGG calling out Floyd , get it into your thick skull , Floyd is where the rainbow ends he is the jackpot of boxing , if you get to fight him you are set for life (if its a big fight) if you win by some way you are the new MEGA star of boxing , who in his right mind wouldnt want to fight him ? are you blind to see that everyone is chasing him for a dance?
I understand that your first name is Jack and your last name is Ass. GGG moving up to fight Ward is a natural progression. GGG fighting a guy the size of Mayweather doesn't make sense. There is no double standard because Jack Ass Ward fought Chad Dawson a legit Light Heavy.
This is a awful match up and I'm losing more and more respect for Canelo. Fighting a guy so much smaller than he is. And Khan is running from Kell Brook and others. I see Khan getting really hurt in this fight - Canelo just needs to land a couple of good combinations then Khan will feel the power this guys brings.
Nonsense
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Why in the world does GGG want to fight a guy so much smaller. Be a real man GGG and fight Andre Ward. Stop fighting Level 2 fighters and knocking them out. Test your skills and stop running from Andre Ward.