jknightx

Haye said he wants a challenge Yeah, sure. If he wanted a challenge, the last person in the world he'd have chosen as an opponent is Audley Harrison. Haye doesn't want a challenge, he just wants an easy payday. If he wanted a challenge he would fight a top ten fighter,better yet a Klitschko...

Just thought of something, if Haye doesn't fight Chagaev DAVID HAYE has to wait to see if his next opponent – Uzbekistan’s Ruslan Chagaev – is allowed to fight in the UK. Click Here To Read More] I Just thought of something, if Haye doesn't fight Chagaev,and Povetkin is still out with a shoulder injury,Haye may have to fight Alexander Ustinov who is listed as the WBA s number 3 rank heavy.But knowing how corrupt the WBA is they would more than likele name someone like Kali Meehan as the next in line to fight Haye for the mandatory.

how so? Why Wlad doesnt have the balls to fight him and Vitali has to do the dirty work? Fukk that, Wlad is a chiny coward I guess your forgetting that it wasn't Wlad who pulled out of the july 2nd fight it was David Haye,for some reson he got bent out of shape because Wlad wanted to keep busy and fight Chisora in april,so HAYE PULLED THE PLUG ON THE FIGHT!

how so? stfu klit nut hugger, vitali has a fight arranged with solis It was Haye would pulled the plug on the july 2nd fight with Wlad,so how is Wlad the coward when was going to fight the top 2 British heavies one right after the other? And Vitali is fighting Solis in march , he could easily fight Haye in the summer so the Solis fight is no excuse

I think Wladmir need sto watch this fight again because this 'victory' or rather gift has got to his ass.David busted his nose and Wladmir had to hold on for dear life so he shouldnt even claim he didnt see Haye.Steward told him many times that he couldnt see Wladmir leading and if the fight had been in another country who knows what could have happened? I guarantee you Wladmir doesnt want a second fight with Haye,he knows Haye whoops his ass dUDE WHAT FIGHT WERE YOU WATCHING BECAUSE IT WASN'T hAYE VS. WLAD. Wlad threw twice as many punches and landed twice as many punches as Haye did.that is i both jabs and power punches. David laned 3 hard punches the entire fight,in the 12tgh was the hardest and it did sting Wlad but it didnt even buckle his kneess,Wlad always grabs an smothers guys whe he is hit.and he retaleted with a combo of his onw 10 seconds later.DAVID SPENT THE ENTIRE FIGHT TRYING TO AVOID BEING KNOCK OUT OR HIT. Wlad had a mark on his eye,Haye was the one that blood coming from his nose in the fight.

Please don't retire yet, fight Vitali as I feel unsatisfied with his entire Heavy weight career and would love to see him laid out cold as his final farewell.....but it needs to be on free tv as I'm never putting another penny in that prick Hayes pocket. WOW you really must hate Haye to want him to fight Vitali.(Vatali has got a mean streak, and Vitali really wants to damage Haye,let us not forget the neck choke incident in the restuarant).

Ah well I WAS WRONG HAYE LOST = WELL DONE CHOPPEREED !!! Hey at least you are a big enough man to come on here say that. Most backers of Haye have dispeared from here and the few that are left are making excuses for Haye and exaggertating the the few punches Haye did thro,(one guy said that Wlad was out on his feet inthe 12tth round LOL).

er,i think perhaps sky,german tv and hbo or showtime had to believe to wlads demands or the fight doesnt get broacasted!. its ok if wlad calls all our bluffs and ducks out??. deciding on who he wants is just mind games from haye,his opinion on which he wants first can change ok. now klitschkos siad they will fight for biggest tv network who offers the fight,boente agreed this on tv. then he said in interview he wouldnt go to hbo even if they offered more money,and would prefer showtime. they said vitali could fight first and he wouldnt have a problem with his mandatory. wlad said he would fight in england,seems like he wont now.haye agreed to germany. Funny how when you whistle people down to it,all people can say to defend wlad is "believe him,if he says he will fight fights so close,he will!",despite all the evidence that points against what he says" and that its hayes fault for not calling wlads bluff and wasting time doing so. despite the networks and WBA most likely not even buying into wlads claims and allowing the fight for july with chisora fight happening,to allow haye to call wlads bluff. I never said just believe him.I said look who actually in fact canceled the fight.You cannot argue witch fighter actually pulled out of the fight.you can only try to rationalize the reason why with opinion and theory.But in the end the fact is no matter what excuse you buy into ,in the end the person who officially canceled was David Haye.

its very obvious hes going to fight someone way better than chisora will ever be. it will be chageav(if he gets passed,despite him being ill) or povetkin most likely. much better fight than chisora novice. You mean like 38 Yr old shot John Ruiz or 39 never was Audley Harrison? or maybe even 39 year past iT MORMECK?

Hahahah! Klit lickers can't handle the fact that wlad ducked Haye. Chisora is a soft fight for wlad and they know it. Maybe wlad can avoid Haye until his retirement and then get his belt the easy way. tOO FUNNY! Talk about skewing the facts.It was HAYE who admittedly canceled the july 2nd date not Wlad.It was also HAYE WHO CANCELED THE FIGHT WITH wWlad in 2009 and pulled out of the fight with Vitali.All 3 times it has been Haye who called off the fight.What ever excuse you want to buy into by David Haye,the fact is it was HAYE THAT STOPPED THE FIGHTS.

still waiting for peole to try argue my points on wlads fights per year and gap between fights swaying towards him being unlikely to fight the dates he said he would fight. but actually he came out at late and said those dates dont make sense. and why should haye and the wba just believe wlads hard to believe claims that he can fight in this highly unlikely space of times. as if the networks would have bought the fight with chisora v wlad happening so close to the haye v wlad megafight!. schafer even said wlads claims were stupid. Once again you are saying becuase Wlad has never had to fights so close together he cannot do it. once again is just your opinion.George Forman once fought 2 guys the same night and he had never done that befor until that night.The only who one that can deside wether Wlad could do it or not is Wlad.It is Wlad decision.And the only way we could have known if he could do it or not is if Haye had agreed to fight him on july 2nd.Everything is just your,mine,and every ones OPINION!.

Vitali was preparing for 2 years, not 2 weeks. Lennox was grossly out of shape coming off a year long layoff while Vit was active and in tip-top. Wlad needs to drop that stay-busy bullsh*t and fight a memorable opponent for once in his life. No one will remember his meaningless exhibitions 50 years from now... Do you know how many fights Joe Frazier had? About 25 less than Wlad has now, and he is ranked much higher all-time. Thats because Frazier fought quality and didnt waste time with 14 fight prospects to pad his record. Great Fights is what boxing needs, not farces designed to keep GlassWlad busy. YOu mean like the great fights Haye has been having?

The Chirsoa scheduling was a pure Chess move by Wlad. Wlad knew that it was impossible for Haye to secure a tuneup between January 1 and April 30th. And a tuneup AFTER April 30th would be too close to the agreed July 2nd date. So by scheduling Chisora, Wlad creates a situation where: HAYE ACCEPTS: He'll be inactive for 8 months, and Wlad gets the jump on a rusted fighter.. Just like what happened with Byrd 10 years ago. HAYE REJECTS: Haye is made to look like the ducker, and Wlad's glass chin is safe from all harm and damage. Wlad may be a coward, but he's no dummy. This was all brilliantly orchestrated, from the fake injury to the fake negotiations with Haye. Well done! uhh ,...Haye is always inactive for 8 months lol

What Wlad did was despicable. Wlad used the inside information obtained from the negotiations to F*ck Haye. He KNEW for a fact that Khan and the Royal wedding would keep Haye from having a tune up fight. Notice that Wlad has been silent since Haye proposed a fight in the fall! Wlad doesnt want Haye in the fall, because he won't have that same advantage of jumping on an 8 month inactive fighter. Not true at all. The only 2 times he's had a layoff that long was against 1. Monte Barett(He was extremely rusty in that fight) 2. Nikolai Valuev, who had an equally long layoff. Haye doesnt mind the lay-off as long as Wlad has the same. it was nearly 8 months between the Harris and Ruiz fight also,

lol,all the haters said haye would never fight chageav or povetkin,looks like hes fighting one of the two!. whether he(chageav) had trained for valeuv properly or not,he still did not have time to train for wladimir!. and yes,people forget Haye pulled out when his setanta tv network went bust,so back injury or not,the tv b/s stopped the fight. And Klitschko did not want to wait a few more weeks to fight Haye? wlad has shown several times with his actions that he doesnt seem that keen to fight Haye,he says he does but when it comes to actions he wont wait for haye a few weeks more the first time and this time round he wanted to fight some lame duck chisora,and fight so close he aviods Haye fight in all reality. He probably deliberately pulled out in December so he could negotiate with haye and if he didnt want it still,when haye agreed to everything,he could use the rustyness excuse. people talk about hayes drop out in 2009!,what about wlads drop out in 2010,decemeber. 2 days before the fight,even closer than when haye dropped out! and wlad didnt have no problems with tv networks!,also wlad had his 2 managers state 2 different injuires and recovery dates,then he is photgraphed swinging a golf club on holiday soon after!.LOL. How does such an experienced fighter get a serious tear so close to a fight. on the day he did his open workout,he looked fine,but he did another workout after that public workout,and somehow got a serious injury,2 days before a fight?????. lol,not most legit source,but fat buncy did say that he was told from tyson fury,that wlad was never injured!. tyson dont need to lie,i know buncy not most reliable,but what if he aint lying!. Haye has not agreed to fight any one yet,so lets not jump the gun untill we see who Haye ends up fighting.

why should haye believe wlads claims that he will be ready,i mean wlad dropped out of chisora fight 2 days before and his managers gave 2 different injuries and dates of recovery,he was spotted playing golf!. lol hes ready for haye,yet it goes totally agiasnt his past history of fights per year,and gap between fights? not a very convincing argument,"hes ready" o if he says he is lets just ignore all the facts on his career, and ignore highly likely things that can happen that make him NOT ready. your still not able to argue wlads corner for his fights per year and fights gap at this age and time in his career!. a mega fight does need promotion,the public,who will be the non boxing fans,the sport fans but not boxing fans will not be aware of a fight happening with such short time of build up for it.there the ones who make the fighters the most money. obviosuly doesnt earn as much with lesser preperation does it!. idiot,haye has a belt,its a unification fight,you dont get no unification without both guys belts!. Haye doesn't have to believe,just agree to the fight on july 2nd,if Wlad suddenly pulls out Haye has a gotcha moment over Wlad,.If Wlad Doesnt pull out ,then we have a mega heavy weight fight.

i guess someone doesnt care to try and defend Wladimir!. :loser: The reason why no one is defending Wlad against what you stated is because no matter what you defend Haye ,with mostly your personel opinion. Wlad was not the one who stopped the july 2nd fight it was HAYE.hAYE STATED TO THE PRESS THAT HE WILL NOT FIGHT WLad if wlad fights Chisora in april;. It cannot get much more plain than that.Wlad continued to instist that he could fight Haye on the agreed date of july 2nd. HAYE IS THE ONE IN THE END THAT SAID NO! You can rationalize it any way you want to. Repeat all of Hayes reason why Wlad could not be ready IN 9 WEEKS. But in the ensd it was Haye that canceled the july 2nd date.

lol,all the haters said haye would never fight chageav or povetkin,looks like hes fighting one of the two!. whether he(chageav) had trained for valeuv properly or not,he still did not have time to train for wladimir!. and yes,people forget Haye pulled out when his setanta tv network went bust,so back injury or not,the tv b/s stopped the fight. And Klitschko did not want to wait a few more weeks to fight Haye? wlad has shown several times with his actions that he doesnt seem that keen to fight Haye,he says he does but when it comes to actions he wont wait for haye a few weeks more the first time and this time round he wanted to fight some lame duck chisora,and fight so close he aviods Haye fight in all reality. He probably deliberately pulled out in December so he could negotiate with haye and if he didnt want it still,when haye agreed to everything,he could use the rustyness excuse. people talk about hayes drop out in 2009!,what about wlads drop out in 2010,decemeber. 2 days before the fight,even closer than when haye dropped out! and wlad didnt have no problems with tv networks!,also wlad had his 2 managers state 2 different injuires and recovery dates,then he is photgraphed swinging a golf club on holiday soon after!.LOL. How does such an experienced fighter get a serious tear so close to a fight. on the day he did his open workout,he looked fine,but he did another workout after that public workout,and somehow got a serious injury,2 days before a fight?????. lol,not most legit source,but fat buncy did say that he was told from tyson fury,that wlad was never injured!. tyson dont need to lie,i know buncy not most reliable,but what if he aint lying!.Wlad did give an an extesion of 2 weeks and then a week later Haye came back and ask 3 weeks, thats when Wlad so no because they would lose the stadium.And Wlad did not cancel the fight with HAYE ON JULY 2ND.. HAYE DID!stop twisting what actually took place.Wlad just signed to fight Chisora 9 weeks earlier and then Haye pulled out of the fight(again). And all 3 times for what ever reason you want to rationalize it with it was always haye that said no to the fight

jknightx cant argue no more!. shame.lol. lol@ dvb , ok bro I am back just needed to make some money to pay the bills lol (did you miss me !)hahaha;

wlad saying he fights chisora so close to the haye megafight cancelled the fight. you just dont want to use logic. Haye agreed to everything else asked of him!.klitscko do not dispute this!. you lot cant argue the facts and logic that says wlad is highly unlikely to fight on dates he claimed!. YOU CANNOT ARGUE THE FACTS!: wlad has only fought 3 times a year twice in the past decade-FACT.(2008 and 2002,all spread through out the year nicely) wlad has not fought any back to back fights so close since the year 2000-FACT!. Wlad pulled out in decemeber and was spotted on a golf course-FACT. wlads 2 managers gave two different injuries anf two dates of comeback-FACT. All these things happen to fighters all the time in fights/these things can affect wlad not fighting at all,or being below par for such a big fight: Injuires,cuts,lack of training,lack of rest and recovey time from a so called "tough" fight with chisora.HE could lose somehow to chisora!. your not using logic.The fact is Wlad did not cancel the fight,Haye canceled it.That is the facts no matter what you argue,that is the facts.

er,i think perhaps sky,german tv and hbo or showtime had to believe to wlads demands or the fight doesnt get broacasted!. its ok if wlad calls all our bluffs and ducks out??. deciding on who he wants is just mind games from haye,his opinion on which he wants first can change ok. now klitschkos siad they will fight for biggest tv network who offers the fight,boente agreed this on tv. then he said in interview he wouldnt go to hbo even if they offered more money,and would prefer showtime. they said vitali coudl fight first and he wouldnt have a problem with his mandatory. wlad said he would fight in england,seems like he wont now.haye agreed to germany. Ok Dvb and others I have to go for a bit,(need to get some work done) It was nice debateing with you guys,and lets all hope that we get some good fights and maybe a Haye Klitschko fight in the future take care,bbl

Wlad did give an an extesion of 2 weeks and then a week later Haye came back and ask 3 weeks, thats when Wlad so no because they would lose the stadium.And Wlad did not cancel the fight with HAYE ON JULY 2ND.. HAYE DID!stop twisting what actually took place.Wlad just signed to fight Chisora 9 weeks earlier and then Haye pulled out of the fight(again). fair play,but still they could have found another venue im sure. whats a few weeks waiting for such a big fight?. did you see their emails and see haye say he pulled out?,or did you see wlad say we can still fight but im figting chisora?? ] how can you not see that by wlad fighting 9 weeks before,which would probably be less than 9 weeks training for haye,how can you not see this is a blatent duck from wlad!. hes fighting a 14 fight novice for f*cks sake,defend that!,does anyone really know who chisora is?NO,does anyone see him as having a great amatuer background to dethrone the prime wlad?NO,did anyone ask wlad to make this fight ?NO,this is a waste of time fight wlad is using to duck haye. was it hayes fault that wlad pulled out in december and was inactive?NO. he would never do this,he could never follow this through with this 2 fights so close,possibly 3 if he does win and fight adamek!. tell me he last did this(fight back to back so close)?,i can tell you ,it was 2000,he was 25. hes now like 35!. and he only fight twice a year,the past decade hes fought like 3 times a year twice,2008 and 2002. the bleedin obvious such as losing,injury and short promotion make wlads claims ridiculous and crazy. he is less preperared,possibly injure,has no time to rest and short training camp,way less than 9 weeks if you consider rest after a fight,and tapering down on fight week. he has less coverage on his fight,and earns less money,doesnt seem like a klitschko thing to do does it!. Dude Haye made a statement to the press saying"if Wlad fights Chisora in april I will not fight him on july 2nd!" his words ,not here say or opinion.And for what ever reson you want to buy into HAYE HIMSELF ADMITTED TO PULLING OUT OF THE FIGHTS WITH THE KLITSCHKOS. This not ifs or buts.it is fact that he did cancel on Wlad in the first becuase of,i HURT MY HAND,NO ITS BACK AND FINALLY THE BANKURPT REASON! aND THEN THE SLAVE CONTRACT AGAINST VITALI. (then he went sifgn a 3 fight deal with King). So why you state your opionion I am stating things that Hayes camp has released to the press.aND AAS FOR wLAD NOT BEING ABLE TO FIGHT 9 WEKS AFTER THE CHISORA fight,thatts Wlad decision.not Hayes.AND IF IT WAS A BLUFF haye should of called it, instead of walking away.Because now there is no way to prove Wlad was bluffing about fighting Haye in july,anything else is just what you "THINK " was going on ,not fact.

your argument is that we should believe his claims?.and its haye's fault for not believing wlads unlikely claims!.thats weak man. stop just taking wlads word on sh*t,hes clearly avoided haye this time round. and whats worse is he is fighting a non fight that is shameful and has no reason what so ever to do this next fight,atleast haye got money and demand for his sh*t fight,and he didnt con anyone into saying fraudley is good like wlad is saying about,he said he would destroy fraudley,and he did. are you not going to argue the facts on wlad and see how hard it is to believe that he would not and could not do what he claimed?. First Haye and Boothe have been the ones caught contridicting themslves time and time again.2ndly it ahs been Haye who has a history of pulling out of the fights not Wlad,.3 HAYE NOR ANYONE ELSE HAS TO BELIEVE WLAD, Haye just needed to sign the fight for july 2nd like it was agreed upon and then we could have found out for sure if Wlad was bluffing,but since Haye just pulled out(again) we can never know and everything else is just opinion either way

Fair enough,i just want some people to use some own thought on who really is wanting to fight,and who is really to blame.instead of just blindly and instantly blaming haye. instead of blindly beleiving wlads every word and claims.and saying we should all just take wlads word for it,despite his word and claims being dubious. yes,i would have prefered haye to earn less and agree fights early on in 09,but that would have stopped the fight being unification in first instance. i really wished that setanta hadnt gone down,when that happened i did think haye would have to pull out of the wlad fight,that was sh*t timing from setanta. and you can see why haye wants to earn more,gain experience aswell maybe,before fighting klitshckos,and get better deals with his own belt helping possiblity of complete unification of all titles. also blame does go to the networks for not getting the dates close enough tbh. they should have moved khans date to may and haye for khans original date of april 16.sky that is.or a venue be made possible for earlier. or allowed a fight for wlad closer than april 30 so he does have full time to prepare and promote and atually fight haye when wlad is at his best condition. i think haye should and could have done more earlier on,but this time round i think he has done mostly everything he could to make the fight.he agreed germany,agreed split,changed his saureland contract to make it possible,agreed to minor things like name order and ring corner,german dr for wlad ect. i dont think wlad has really done or conceded anything to make the fight happen this time round,and hes blocked up later this year with adamek aswell. im not saying he should do,or has too,but he could do,youde think he would if he wanted too fight. .if its a unfication then both need to do thier bit to make sure they can fight ,and it is for each others titles. i just want the best to fight the best. in all reality it should be no 1 wlad vs no 2 vitali but they obvs. wont do that.so we will get either no3 haye vs no1 or no 2. i think its likely haye v vitali will have to be first,and will be in october time. i believe if haye does win we will see haye v wlad early next year in march time. Ok I do have to agree to the staement that network should have just moved Khans fight to make Haye vs. Klitschko happen.

The only reason Chagaev is even a name is because Nikolai is befuddled by the southpaw style. The rest of Chagaev's career has been mediocre to absolute sh*t. To be Frank, Wlad snatched an AIDS patient off the beach, and forced him into the ring on two weeks notice. I hope Haye gets Povetkin and not the diseased clown. Wlad took the unbeaten WBA champion ,who had beaten Valuev decisevely,who had been training for a fight already.And how many unbeaten champions has Haye fought at heavy weight?

If wlad didnt want to be "rusty" and wanted a "tune up"why did we not hear this at the start of thier negotitations? why did they bother starting to sort out venue and date if wlad wanted a tune up first??. why agree germany and july 2nd if he then wanted a "tune up stay busy" fight so close to this date that it makes it near impossible for the unification fight to actually happen. why fight adamek in september for no belt,when he could have fought someone and been fine to fight haye in september??. the number one ranked heavyweight should NOT be fighting a 14 fight novice with no style and no chance to beat him. so your saying wlad doesnt trust haye so he will never fight him??. dont see why wlad did not get someone on the undercard as back up if he dont trust haye. dont see why he didnt get haye to agree if either of them pulled out then either one would pay the other a huge amount of thier next fight purse to him. still yet to hear anyone argue and discredit my points on wlads amout of fights per year and gap between fights!. still yet to hear how wlad can definately fight 9 weeks or less after a fight without any problems what so ever with preperation and promotion being done properly and done with justice to such a huge mega unification fight that would be watched all over the wolrd. All this is just is just your opinion.And as for promoting this fight,it has been promoted to high heaven already.The only true fact is Wlad stated he could fight in 9 weeks.(I am not saying he would be,I am just stateing that Wlad stated this) And HAYE canceled the july 2nd date stating the reason was becuase Wlad could not be ready in 9 weeks(once again this is what Haye stated to the press,not saying it is right or wrong) But in the end it was HAYE WHO WENT AND STATED THE HE WOULD NOT FIGHT WLAD ON JULY 2ND. not my words his.

:ugh: Its going to be a long 3 months until this clown and his fans go away. Yup Spray_resistant ,most of these Haye fans will dispapear or change thier handles if Haye loses.Most didn't even join this forum until Haye moved up from cruiser weight.IF Haye and his fans dispear there will a new group of anti Klitschkos cheering the next big hope to dethrone Wlad.It always the same.

Haye is an Oreo cookie. Hang on now,I am a bit of an Oreo cookie,but I am not a Haye fan,I perfer the Klitschkos over Haye,(Haye and I are about the same skin tone ,but I am half redneck and half Puerto Rican)There is nothing wrong with being of mixed Hertitage.(mixes are usaully better looking:lew:

No, I am referring specifically to Haye being black on the outside but white on the inside. His attempts to act "gangsta," along with his cornrows, are laughable. Ok I have to agree with you there,Haye trying to be gangsta getto is weak.Almost as bad as Solis with that stupid gold and diamond spongebob necklace.(Solis will more than likely be broke in 5 years)

wouldnt surprise me if wlad lets vitali chase him around naked with a rubber fist shaped dildo! OK exactly what does this comment have to do with boxing? This is just a mean spirited post and is nothing more than a childish insult.I don't mind Haye fans posting opinions why they think Haye will win,or even thier strange Dellisions that Haye has actually done anything note worthy at heavy weight(Haye was a decent cruiser weight,but not very good at heavy weight).If you are going to insult Vlad and Vitali Klitschko at least keep it refrenced to boxing or at least make it funny.