So this is a good example of how a SLICK African American boxer fare against the champion. It gives a boring fight. Though pretty lopsided, Margarito fight was more exciting.
FLOID IS THE MOST "SLICK" OF THEM ALL!!
:ghost: (was it sleek?)
gush....when will floid grow a pair?!?
i wish in my lifetime!!
Shane Mosley: "I fought the best fyter in the world. I have never been hit the way he hit me."
mosley was more perflexed fyting manny than floid.
as for being hit, well...he is much older now. :guilty:
but definitely been hit harder than by the xolocane-laden fists of floid. :boxing:
Like the famous line of "I told you so", many experts predicted that once Mosley was DOMINATED and embarrassed by Floyd Mayweather, Mosley's age was displayed.
Pac seems that he only wanted someone with there gas tank half full. At the end of the day. Team Pac failed at being more impressive than Mayweather when he beat the #1 WW (winning) Mosley. Where as Pac fought an "older" 2 year streak of non winning Mosley. Everyone questioned Pac's motives as to why he wanted yet an old man who wasn't winning.
Mosley's performance was horrible and Pac looked the worst I have ever seen him in a long time. I cant imagine how bad Floyd would have schooled the Pac that looked amateurish at times in there with old man Mosley who dictated most of the fight.Floyd would turn Pac into a Judah aka a mental midget. Pac attempting to play checkers while Floyd's playing one boring ass game of chess. Two great games but on completely different levels. The Pac that fought Shane gets completely schooled by even a ring rusted Floyd Mayweather. Maybe father time is catching Pac.
Either way Saturday night was an embarrassment to the sport. The casual fans that DID get suckered into buying it (with help by CBS) are probably kicking themselves in the face and or trying to get there money back.
I will be interested to see the PPV numbers.... if it doesn't do at least 1.4 its a COMPLETE and utter FAIL on Bob Arum and Team Pac 100%. Which takes us back to square one, we all told you so Bob/Pac. Mosley, time to retire now that you collected the pay check.
Floyd would have schooled the Pac
maybe so.....
but until floid grows a pair, .......'I TOLD YOU SO" ! :gives:
Mosley who dictated most of the fight.
you're not serious here, are you??!
:bottle: who told you this??
haye has been play-acting all the time....he's good at it.
he should face any of the klits and be done with it......
but he knows he doesn't stand a chance!!
superstitious bloke
i got this from a news clip....and it's all true
Pacquiao is a superstitious bloke who sticks to what works for him:
– the same take off schedule from LA to Vegas
- riding the same vehicle on the way to the venue
- staying at the same suite at the Mandalay Bay
- hearing mass at scheduled times
- wearing the same rosary to the fight
blood is literally and figuratively seen as a representation of life itself.
and manny has dreamt of blood the nyt before he lost in a fyt....he said it!!
manny is not averse to blood sampling..he already agreed to it.
but floyd made a last ditch to say that he wants sampling the day before the fyt!!
FLOYD DOESN'T WANT THE FYT!!
floyd will keep on bringing issues everyday...
It's called, "Not Caving In to a bunch of lunatics." Mayweather is indeed turning this fight into a CIRCUS. He's never been afraid of anyone until now. He has never ask for such ridiculous testing in the past. He's been arrogant in saying that Pacquiao can be easily beaten. Ya, right! Where's Mr. "Big-Balls" Mayweather now? If Pacman is that easy, then he shouldn't be at all worried whether Manny is on steroids or not. You see, Floyd is putting his foot into his mouth and it will backfire on him. No one, I repeat, no one will be interested in seeing him fight ever again if he blows this fight with the Pacman. JAT :nonono:
coming from a lady with balls....... :banana:
floyd maywither is scared of manny pacman pacquiao..!
how i wish team pacquiao will ask for the drug test of additional 2 members of each team. :grouphug:
that roach and ariza will do it and so are senior and uncle rouge-r in team floyd!!
those found positive will be banned in boxing for life.... :werd: menace to the world
If the fight doesn't happen, and with Pacquiao's image tarnished... is this enough to give Mayweather the undisputed fighter of the decade tag? Part of mindgames or not, I'd rather see these fighters destroy each other inside the ring rather than outside it for this status.
Pacquiao is at a disadvantage with regards to PED and steroid-use accusations being hurled against him. Pacquaio being a public figure and a foreigner would have difficulty making a libel or slander case prosper against a US citizen on US soil under US law. The Srs and Malignaggis in the world can talk all they want and not worry about being sued.
Media can propagate and cultivate this belief of steroid use, but that doesn't prove anything. It simply builds suspicion, making boxing bodies look inept in policing its own sport (yeah, adding fuel to that boxing-is-a-dying-sport thesis), and making it a lot harder for future super fights to happen.
Mayweather winning the fight outside the ring by tarnishing a fighter with the best chance to make him showcase his natural gifts doesn't add to his boxing greatness. Best he'd get out of this is a way out of what probably would be the most difficult fight of his career...and people will find that justification enough to give him boxing accolades he didn't really earn.
:grumble:
shame on floyd....
and he will be shamed some more if manny decides to fyt another boxer and subject himself to the tests that will dispell the PED accusations by "senior the user".
most posters doesn't understand what they are commenting on.....while some are misleading in their arguments.
- manny is never afraid of needles
- manny already agreed to take all tests, urine and blood.
- manny allows urine sampling any time as many times
- manny will allow 3 blood samplings: after the presscon, one month before the fyt and ryt after the fyt.
- manny doesn't want the blood sampling one day before the fyt, as floyd insists. blood sampling a day before the fyt will not result differently when the sampling is done minutes after the fyt.
floyd doesn't have boxing's integrity in mind when he insisted on his absurd demand!
The request by Floyd is both unprecedented and unnecessary.
unprecedented indeed......because floyd is now scared!!
unnecessary....but not to floyd....coz he is looking for a way out.
The 48-hour deadline is a classic Mayweather psychological ploy designed to get into his opponent’s head.
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There’s no way Pacquiao can explain walking away from one of the biggest bouts in boxing history because, as his promoter suggests, he’s afraid of needles.
“For that kind of money, how could you not take a test?” Floyd’s father, Floyd Mayweather Sr., has already crowed to the Grand Rapids (Mich.) Press.
money is not everything.....maybe floyd don't agree!
beliefs, values, etc... are.
pac is not afraid of any needle...his tattoos prove that.
it is the blood sampling before the fyt is what he is superstitious about!!
“We’re going in a different direction,” Arum told the Grand Rapids Press. “What I believe is that Floyd never really wanted the fight and this is just harassment of Pacquiao.”
There’s little doubt this is harassment of Pacquiao.
many believe, or want to believe the same.
floyd doesn't want the fyt after he saw how manny demolished cotto.
manny agreed to all the tests...until floyd made it more unnecessarily stringent...
looking for ways that manny will eventually disagree
If Pacman pulls out of the fight because of the timetable for doping tests, he’ll have a near-impossible challenge proving he isn’t trying to hide something.
bcoz of floyd's antics.....here's what i want now.
manny to fyt mosley instead, undergo the olympic style blood tests after their presscon, 30 days b4 the fyt and one ryt after fyt.....
this will prove whether or not he's clean!! :boxing:
Regardless, in one of their typically deft maneuvers, they demanded extreme testing standards that left the Pacquiao camp backpedaling and debating an issue they can’t win.
team pacquiao is ahead on this debate....floyd needs some explaining to do himself.
Instead, Manny Pacquiao is going to walk away?
no, manny will not walk away!!
floyd will have to apply his brakes on his innuendos.....
team floyd will capitulate, they need this fyt very badly.....imho
I don't believe that at all. All their (floyds team) actions since floyd came out of "retirement" was manouvering to get this fight to happen.
not anymore,.... not after the cotto fyt.
floydie can not stomach to imagine himself all bloodied...that's why!
i want to give dude the benefit of the doubt, but this shit is making it hard to....if the fight gets cancelled b/c dude refuses drug testing.....
oh well, this thread is about to blow up!
well,.. dude did not refuse drug testing per se.
why don't floydie accept not within 30 days before.??
why burden manny with such thoughts that he doesn't want??
that's floyd, wants all advantages he can get!
Wouldnt Immediately after the fight be sufficient?? Anyone know?
blood test right after the fyt must be more telling..rather than 30 days before.
team floyd just want to get into manny's head with the blood test close before the fyt!!
just give it up floyd...and man up to sign the deal!!
so the fools may know
i knew it his hits on cotto the way he got big all of sudden
you are terribly un-informed, or mis-informed like others.
manny did not get big all of a sudden.
- manny is 144 lbs during fyt nyt since 2006 when he first fought morales at 130.
- he is 144 again when he fought barrera in 2007 at 130.
- manny was 145 in march 2008 against jmm at 130
-pacman was 147 when he demolished diaz in june 2008 at 135
- manny was 148 in december 2008 against oscar at 145
- he was 148 in may 2009 against ricky at 140
- manny was 148? against cotto at 145 in nov 2009
(source: avi korine)
it is obvious that manny did not get any bigger since 2006.
he just fought bigger foes and trained hard to retain his power and increase his punch resistance and improve in his craft.
the accusation that manny got bigger because of steroids or HGH is BASELESS
floyd, like manny, also started fyting at 106 lbs.
floyd is now bigger than manny, can we say he was on steroid???
Pac should just take the tests
he will, he agreed to that. :bottle:
but not the day before the fyt....ridiculous!!
pac is willing to have another test ryt after the fyt.
"I have already agreed to the testing," Mayweather said, "and it is a shame he is not willing to do the same. It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night."
in his own words.....floyd is scared stiff!!
Use your brain for a few seconds you might comprehend what i am saying. Floyd comes out of retirement @ Pacs press conference. States he is still king and P4P # 1, an indirect insult to Pac (the current accepted P4P). Also his comeback fight was against....?? Thats rite...JMM, the man Manny had 2 controversial fights with. Floyd positions himself to whoop Marquez to discredit Pac and get some hype happening for a fight with Pac.
Manny beats Cotto (Big Floyd is ringside). About a second after Manny wins Floyd gets on TV and says he will whip him with ease and wants the fight. Floyd signs a 50/50 against his better nature and agrees quickly to terms set out by Pacs team. Mayweather/Ellerbe/Haymon even step aside and let GBP handle the negotiation as not to let past bad blood get in the way of reaching an acceptable deal.
Dosen't sound much like he is scared to me. All they want is more stringent blood testing. What is the big deal about that?????
floyd threw a bluff...and manny catched it with gusto.
now floyd is worried sick....trying to maneuver his way out of the fyt
heard over the grapevine
manny has agreed to all the demands of team floyd.
floyd now demands that floyd senior do the sucking of blood from manny. :smashfrea
if manny still agrees....
next floyd senior will ask NASA to test DNA of manny....senior suspects manny is extra-terrestial!! :werd:
dude r u serious????......DREAMZ!!! C'mon son! We talking millions of $$$ here. if he don't agree to that test, he gon be looked at fishy from here on out!
dude i am serious.
manny himself said that blood dream.....
he got that dream the nyt before a fyt...and he lost the fyt.
he said it was ominous....and believed that it was a sign to him.
yes, i am serious..
but why floyd asking for blood testing the day before the fyt.
floyd should agree to after fyt tests......
will there be difference in results between a day before and/or minutes after the fyt?!?
:stupid:
I feel ya brotha, I don't understand what so hard about doing a little blood test? Team Pac demandin 10 mill per pound if Floyd come in over 147, now that some crazy shit, but they don't agree to a little simple blood test? they making they self look bad!
you're just babbling without understanding what you read.
pac agreed to any/all tests...but not within 30 days of the fyt!!
what's wrong with blood testing 10 minutes after the fyt??
i wonder....why is floyd so adamant with the tests??? is he afraid??
why does floyd insist on blood test nearly fyt day...him knowing manny is superstitiously against it!!??
floyd is just trying to get into manny's head..to throw manny off his training!!
floyd and his team are afraid.....
floyd is looking for excuse to scuttle his fyt with manny...WHY?!?
team maywither will not run out of issue in this fyt......WHY?!? :smashfrea
This site never seems to amaze me....1 man agrees to everything, including the blood test while the other has a body full of tatoos and says he is scared of needles. But somehow the guy who has agreed to everything including the blood testing and doesn't have a single visible tattoo is the 1 who is scared and doesn' t want the fight despite agreement on all terms!
Manny chest and arm is covered with Tats!!! He scared of neeedles, GTFOH!!! I'm starting think something is fishy!
that's just it...manny is never afraid of needles!!
it's not the needle folks.....
manny's superstition is about his dream of blood.....
and why floyd asks blood sampling 1 day before the fyt.??
floyd is the one trying to jeopardise the fyt!! :la:
i will be very surprised if diaz will lose this fyt. jmm only looked good with pacman because manny broke his left the the first round(1st fyt) and manny was weight drained( 2nd fyt). very few knows these facts!! jmm is old and will retire after he lose again after this diaz fyt.....
steward should stop pimping himself......
as for cotto,..he needs a good corner against the p4p king.
cotto must never understimate midget manny....the pacific storm!
Cheap gimmick, uncle Bob. U can fool everybody sometime or some people all the time…but u can’t fool everybody all the time. This is a rub on Floyd but he will just laugh this off. But I hope floyd will do get bothered. I want him to be ignored for some time and get frustrated he can’t fyt for big money. He must be cursing since the IRS is hot on his pants….
if they got a signed contract at 144, marquez should not pull out. :nonono:
he must sue and go to court!!
me thinks this is a prelude to step "aside money" for dinamita.
lil no-money fraud is chasing mega-manny that's why the latter is not signing the cotto deal yet.
hmmmmmm......just maybe :sleeping:
If PAC wants a TUNE up fight before PBF i think T.BRADLEY is the best option out there.
pacman never needs any tune up fyt.
tell that to maywither.....he needs matthew that bad :grr:
el gato speaks up on sparring!!
read on, people.....
GATO SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUT COTTO AND HIS DISMISSAL FROM CAMP
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content6008.html
manny will start aggressive, strong and FAST.
cotto will be perflexed he will not know what hit him!!
There is no way that floyed will win this! i want to see how his shoulder roll will work on 5 punch combo form all diffrent and weird angles, floyed is a good boxer, but if he will be looking for that counter punch he will hit the floor before he will see a chanc o land it!!! and i dont like mayweather anyway to much bs just like his dad never shuts up, i have more respect for pac. How he acts and what he does for his country that great and i want him to wip mayweathers ass and then give him his money so he can use them for his medical bills!!!
floydie is practicing his shoulder roll on the right...coz pac is a lefty.
manny will punch his left shoulder out its socket with ryt crosses....
..and a left uppercut will make floydie kiss the canvass ! :skull:
MGM belongs to GBP... They have a business arrangement. Remember that Arum wanted to have a meeting with Jerry Jones to host the fight in Dallas? But, Schafer blew it off didn't go. That is because Schafer wanted the fight at the MGM since they have an agreement. That was why Bob Arum was pissed about it...
And, from what I read was a that potential Pac-Foreman fight might happen on March 20. So I think Top Rank will go to March 20.
Now who will get HBO PPV? That I don't know... I do know Ross Greenburg has a really good relationship with GBP and Al Haymon. And, Top Rank can always do an independent PPV. They are not scare of that. They have done it before. They question is would they do a PPV show back-to-back? Would that be smart? The sales would suffer from both sides....
you are ryt on mgm and gbp...as well on those dates.
but i doubt if hbo will take floyd-paulie bout.
and if hbo does....top rank will make manny-yuri a ppv and compare hits with floyd.
who do you think will get higher buys??