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HBO wants GGG/Martinez afterwards Well I'm just reading the number this guy got from his article from the Ring Martinez is not going anywhere near golovkin. Floyd will fight the winner of cotto-martinez, just so long as martinez doesn't win. If martinez wins, floyd rematches maidana. Floyd also won't get near golovkin, even at 154, which golvkin said he would make to fight floyd. Floyd would love to get a real belt at middleweight. The problem is that he matches up poorly with all the current beltholders and he knows it. A cotto upset (i can't see him winning) over martinez would be a huge boon for mayweather: he would get a very lucrative rematch with cotto (who he knows he can beat), plus he can pick up the lineal middleweight belt. No way he would turn that down that opportunity just to rematch maidana.

Strangely, he's not anywhere near as big a puncher as his KO rate suggests. Says a lot about how hard a night gets when a 250 lb. man lands in high volume. Gotta' be sore in the morning. Vitale's power is way overrated by casual fans. His power is mediocre. He gets his kos by accumulation and discouragement. People quit or get caught because they can't hit him and he keeps landing punches almost at will. So cliff you are taking credit for your cloud victory prediction (as reflected by you prediction record). You need to put an asterisk by that one.

So Mr. Sulaiman has now become a promoter? Guiding the careers of his favourite Mexican countrymen, handing them his own WBC titles on a silver plate (or is that gold or platinum?) and deciding when they will face each other? Hard not to agree with this post. This kind of speculation by an organization such as the WBC--an organization that just made the bs Alvarez v. Hatton fight for a belt--is horrible. What a joke the WBC has become.

Danny Garcia looked worried at the end of that fight. I do not blame Garcia because I would be chitting bricks if Matthysse was next too. Danny should pay Khan to start some fake war, so that way they both can avoid Matthysse. I thought Matthysse was the best and tonight he proved it. Garcia should be worried. He can be hit and that is almost invariably fatal against matthyse.

Honestly no hate at all, that has got to be one of the stupidest post that I have ever read in my life. First off Ortiz is a good fighter and he actually made this fight bigger than it was suppose to be because of his courage and his heart. Secondly Wasn't ugly boy Maynever a 6-1 betting favorite everyone knew that Ortiz was going to come at about 160 that was no secret. Plus isn't one of the Maynevers motto's that skills pay the bills not weight?? So what does 14 pounds have to do with anything when every boxing fan in the world knows that Ortiz does not have the skills that Maynever has. Thirdly how can anybody be proud of knocking a guy down for the ten count with his hands down prove anything. I could guarantee that if Pac fought Ortiz that he would not need his hands down to put him on the canvas. Fourthly wasn't Margarito 165 on fight night against Pacquaio plus he's 5'11 five inches taller than the Pacman. And lastly aren't you all the same Floyd Maynever fans that are calling for Sergio Martinez to move up to super middle because he is 2 inches taller than Floyd and has a 7 -12 pound weight advantage over Floyd. You Maynever fans are probably the easiest to break down because to say a whole lot of nothing to back up your coward!!!!!!!!!! I agree with this. Ortiz was hand picked by Mayweather because he knew he could beat him. There is no skill in knocking out a defenseless fighter. What does he have to be proud of? Ortiz did a classless act. A great fighter would have whipped his ass cleanly to prove a point: even with your cheating, dirty tricks, I still beat your ass. Floyd took the gutter route: cheap shot on an unsuspecting fighter. He sank to Ortiz's level. But, to make it worse, Ortiz admitted he was wrong and Floyd acts like he was the lion of chivalry in there. What a joke.

Any boxing fan who has a subscription to both HBO and Showtime, yet doesn't possess a DVR is a fool. Mares is a good young fighter but he doesn't beat Moreno I agree. Moreno is just a pleasure to watch. His ability to stand right in the pocket and not be hit while being aggressive offensively is one of the most amazing things in boxing today.

This fight reminds me of mayweather Mosley. Boxing skills and fundamentals with accurate punching trumps speed and power especially for a fighter like berto who is not super active. UD in lopsided win for the ghost. Berto off peds will exploit his true inability. If mosleyhadn't been shot when he fought mayweather, this would have been a great analogy. Problem is that if mosley had been in his prime, he'd have ko'd mayweather when he had him hurt. Mosley was a killer when he was young. He was nowhere near that fighter when he fought mayweather or pacquiao. He'd been shot for years but people forgot that when he beat margarito, who was tailor-made for him.

"I regard the IBO title very highly" Hahahahahahaha. What's with the farce fo calling this a potential "unification fight?" since when has any legitimate world champion ever cared about an IBO belt, let alone made any effort to fight somebody to "unify" it with their own? This is simply pandering.

No he made it clear months ago that May 5th was the date just like Bob did with Mayweather last year with his countdown clock. Not only that he goes to jail June 1st. How do you not understand this? If he fights late in the month how does that leave any time for preparations for jail? Injuries etc? Do you guys even think or just back Bob and his ducking ways? May 5th is ok for JMM, it is ok for Mayweather. The bottom line is, Team Pac takes the fight or be known as true cowards... Preparation for jail? Are you kidding me? I've seen many people go to jail and ain't much preparing necessary. Many don't even know they are going to jail until they get cuffed and stuffed. Since when does a fighter get to pick an arbitrary date and then force another equally big name fighter to fight on it? Never. This is just dumb and for you to give credence to it like it is some magical line in the sand is asnine. If the only thing stopping the fight being made is floyd's refusal to move off of May 5, then he doesn't want to make the fight. Similarly, if Floyd comes back and says May 19th and Pacquaio says no, it has to be May 26th, then Pacquaio doesn't want the fight. But let's not pretend May 5 is some carved in stone date that Mayweather can't move off. To be honest, May 5th would only be unmoveable if Mayweather were fighting a Mexican.

hard to disagree with martinez..chavez jr does seem to not respect the sport as much as he should. the missed (standard) drug tests, disrespecting roach by choosing to train at home without him there, taking days off, and just generally coming off as being disinterested with his preparation. Why would Chavez take the sport seriously? Everything has been handed to him on a silver platter. he's made millions of dollars fighting nobodies. While Chavez was getting completely undeserved results against Carlos Molina, Martinez was getting draws against the likes of Kermit Cintron (who he not only knocked out, but decisively beat on points). Chavez fought in front of packed houses when he wasn't in the top hundred of his division. He's been one the most protected, coddled fighters in history. He doesn't appreciate how tough it is to make it big in this sport--his actions show rather that he takes it all for granted. Don't get me wrong, it is not Chavez fault it has all been gifted to him. But he has not shown any humility and that disgusts most fight fans. This is a guy that has been given the middleweight championship of the world without having ever fought the top fighters in the division (and if you try to argue that Rubio, Lee or Zbik should be considered in that group, you are doing a great disservice to the deep middleweight division). He should be humble and try to prove he deserves the opportunity to get in the ring with Martinez. He should acknowledge that the strap he wears around his waist was improperly and disgustingly taken by the corrupt WBC and its fraud Jose Suleiman. Martinez has every right to be disgusted with Chavez and the travesty which resulted in Chavez wearing a belt that he doesn't deserve and rightfully belongs to Martinez.

Are you really gonna try that Duran and Mayweather are the same generation fighters? And yes Pac has more HoFers on is res but there is no one on that resume that you would pick to beat Floyd. Not one guy at any point in their career. How do you define "generation"? Duran retired in 2001. Mayweather turned pro in 1996. If by generation you call it a 20 year age gap, from where do you start and stop? Generation is a nebulous term. So, until you offer me a real definition (not "I know it when I see it"), I consider two fighters that overlapped by six years within a generation. The "no one on that resume you would pick to beat Floyd" argument is a terrible one. You don't make paper matchups in determining all-time greats. You look at who they actually fought and beat. Fact of the matter is Floyd had the opportunity to fight many prime HOF fighters. He could have fought Mosley when he was in his prime, De La Hoya, Cotto, Pacquiao, probably Morales and Barrera at 135. He didn't fight a single one in his prime even though they were there for matches to be made. He is going to be blasted in the future for his failure to make those fights and it is going to kill his legacy. He may well have beaten all those guys, but he didn't so he'll pay the price for not having fought them.

When he goes into the boxing hall of fame i plan on attending,how many years does he have to wait does anyone know. 5 years from today. Great career by johnson. Robbed many times, willing to fight anyone, anywhere.

Cotto complaining about taking the fight at 145 is definitely his fault and Bob Arum's however he took the fight and he was making 146 in his last few fights before that.. like against Clottey & Judah. However making 154 Cotto has looked strong.. so maybe in general making 154 he was draining himself... so maybe a fight at 154 will be different & manny is trying to drain him a little. Pacquiao is notorious for that. In my opinion, Cotto hasn't fought any of the top 154 lb fighters. He's beaten: Yuri Foreman, Ricardo Mayorga, Antonio Margarito, and Floyd Mayweather. Foreman is totally featherfisted and had a hurt knee. Mayorga has been shot for years. Margarito is shot and has never had any success at 154. Floyd isn't a 154 lber. Until Cotto gets in the ring against a real top 154 lber, I'll reserve judgment as to how effective he can be at this weight. I think Trout is going to hand Cotto his ass.

Home town decision two legit knock downs and only one scored he got beat down by murray its as simple as that he got done but the hometown always comes through no matter where you are boxing is a disgrace I had this 114-113 martinez. But, i might be wrong because he was hard to understand, but it seemed that murray admitted the second wasn't a knockdown and that he lost a close decision. I agree with him on both points. Murray's only complaint was the scores were too wide. Again, i agree with him there as well. He is a class act. He'd have won if he'd have been more active. The problem with the high guard is, if you aren't active, people only see and hear hard shots coming off your arms. While those might not be scoring blows, they are a lot more impressive than just holding your arms up defending. Hard to when from that defense unless you are pretty active or can really crack.

Understood and I agree it was a tactic used to mess with Maidana's head. I just don't think it's fair to say fighters didn't ask for certain gloves, because they did. Usually the gloves are agreed upon during the contractual talks, to me it seems someone dropped the ball in Mayweathers camp and failed to make sure they didn't get the type of glove they wanted. It was a cry baby move, but it isn't rare is my point. You don't pay $1.5 million (which is what Floyd paid to get Maidana to wear different gloves) to mess with somebody's head. You pay that amount because you are concerned. Yes, fighters ask for different gloves all the time. Recent fighters that had these provisions in all their contracts are Pacquiao, Morales and Barrera. But Floyd's histrionics in this case are way beyond anything I've seen before. I just don't understand why he was so worried about a 140 lb fighter coming up in weight wearing the gloves of his choice, especially given Floyd's defensive skills. I really can't believe he was worried enough to pay $1.5 million. It is weird. And stuff like this interview is disturbing. Floyd looks completely divorced from reality. Either he is crazy and believes that this really is a Resto-like situation, or he is crazy and thinks boxing fans are dumb enough to believe that.

If you hate his trash talking I'm cool with that. Other than that, dude is a true professional. More important, he created a business model which ultimately brings more money to the fighters. Yes he has structured is carrer to maximize his money rather than give fans what they want. But only a real loser faults him for that IMO. So, you admit that he doesn't give fans what they want and then say only losers would not be a fan of his? That is idiotic. Real boxing fans are pissed because he won't make the best fights out their and he does unsportsmanlike things in the ring. Those are legitimate gripes and great reasons to not be a fan of his. Even before that, I wasn't a fan of his because his are boring. He's a safety first guy (in the ring and in matchmaking). He makes shell fighters like Joshua Clottey look exciting. I appreciate the technical aspects of what he's doing, but that is about it. Because of the way he handpicks opponents anymore, watching a Mayweather fight is like watching a Harlem Globetrotter game. You think the Washington Generals will pull this one out? That's not sport. Its called an exhibition.

" In order for Holyfield to be able to fight with one of the Klitschko brothers, he needs to get into the Top 10 world rankings " What, like Briggs and Sosnowski ? It would be reasonably easy to blast Vit for that comment, but come on, Holyfield would have little chance of winning that fight, and I certainly don't wanna see it. Briggs was ranked No. 8 by the WBC before this fight.

Good stuff lol he said he would fight anybody then says the guy has to built up his name shut up hater Lucas is a tough guy he has been beaten twice by guys he should have beaten down Garcia will fight Lucas soon relax Matthyse lost two fights by controversial decisions in the hometowns of his opponents. He also dropped both in the fights. You can't really be criticizing him for that, can you? And who says he should have beaten down both those guys? He was the underdog in both those fights. Let's also not pretend like garcia would be favored over alexander or zab--well, maybe zab who looked shot against khan. Alexander is better than garcia. Garcia is pretty much tailor made for matthyse--he's there to be hit. No wonder garcia doesn't want to fight him.

BoxingScene's report on the Rigondeaux-Cordoba fight, right here: http://www.boxingscene.com/guillermo-rigondeaux-edges-ricardo-cordoba-by-split-nod--32814 Note: First career KD suffered by Rigondeaux Rigondeaux ran the second half of that fight, after cordoba put him down. That fight sucked badly. Rigo would probably run vs nonaire too after he got hit. Nonaire has definitely been in against way better competition.

You made the right choice Dmitry...:fing02: when fighting a fight against the holder of another major belt (a more respected belt than the one you hold) can get you stripped of your title, something is definitely wrong with the entire system.

Floyd didn't adjust, Maidana just gassed out but Floyd did control the latter portion of the fight Maidana outperformed expectations by far, but he still lost had he kept it going late he coulda gotten the decision but Floyd did what he had to do late and earned that win don't see how he really did anything different late, but he did win it I agree with this take on the fight. I had floyd winning 7-5. I think he won not because he did any adjusting, he really didn't. He won because Maidana ran out of gas. Really a head scratcher to me how Floyd kept finding himself against the ropes, even late in the fight. Maidana is not very good at cutting off the ring, yet Floyd would fail to get off and Maidana would push him into the ropes.

I beg your pardon...."hippocratic". Hippocratic oath has nothing to do with "dish out personal medical information" Doctor didn't violate it by talking to a reporter. Moreover, fighters certainly waive any confidentiality to fight doctors when they get into the ring, either expressly (depending on the forum) or implicitly (so he can do his job and report back to the referee, commission, corner, etc).

andre ward would have vacated his belt anyways since the wbc doesn't allow unified champs, right? he should move up. he can have really good fights with abraham, froch, and pavlik before facing ward. only reason i'd want to see a rematch between chavez and martinez is to see martinez get paid, but honestly, i don't really care for it. we'll see what happens. the big problem for chavez is that if he goes up to 168, he gives up his only advantage: size. Honestly, I can't see him favored against any of the top supermiddleweights. He'd have a chance against abraham and pavlik, but they aren't top supermiddleweights. I'd still favor both of those two over jr. Let's be clear though: the WBC will strip Andre Ward of his belt for some bs reason and set up a title fight for Chavez Jr. against somebody like Marco Antonion Rubio (who just moved up to 168). That's how Jose S. rolls. I'd love to see Jr. vs. Librado Andrade at supermiddleweight. That'd be an awesome fight.

Like that dude from the mgm said...its the live GATE...Pac's prices are dirt cheap...Floyd's are more expensive...he makes more money...go on seckback and look up that vid with the dude from the mgm Just depends on what comparables you look at-- Floyd v. Marquez got $6.8 million at the live gate. Pacquiao v. Marquez III did $11.6 million Surprisingly, Floyd's fight against Cotto barely did more than Pacquiao v. Marquez III--$12 million--and Cotto is a real draw in his own right (Marquez is not). So, yes, Floyd's tickets are slightly more expensive but he also rarely sells out. For some of his recent fights, there have been more than 3,000 unsold tickets (excluding comps).

compubox can be misleading. JMM won more rounds IMO. and like the article said, JMM landed the cleaner shots Edit: just looked at the whole chart and its complete bullshit. they had pac out-landing JMM 10 out of 12 rounds, WTF I was sitting right behind press row on the floor for this fight. The compubox stats look right to me. Marquez landed the best short clewn punches in the fight, but pacquiao outlanded him in virtually every round. The distance they were fighting at was such that marquez was reaching for many punches and pacquiao was picking them off with his gloves. Nevertheless, the crowd went crazy every time marquez even thought about throwing a punch. Fight was close. I had it 115-113 pacquiao. Many close rounds where the only action was pacquiao moving forward.

and jcc defends his title succesfully You mean jcc successfully defends martinez's title. It is a joke that he has a belt.

I don't know if the injury is legit or not but I do know that Chavez aint scared of no Martinez. Chavez had the balls to fight Zbik who Martinez flat out ducked Where do you get this stupid stuff? Martinez tried to fight Zbik so he could keep the WBC belt (Zbik was his mandatory). HBO refused to pay for the fight, so Martinez had to go elsewhere. This caused nothing but heartache for Martinez when HBO then agreed to buy the crap fight between JCC Jr. and Zbik.

lol at people thinking Floyd cant beat Martinez Martinez out boxed Paul Williams he didnt beat him down. Do you think he can outbox Floyd Mayweather? Never mind your dumb assed biased answer to that question which is solely based on hate and routing for whoever Floyd faces. Some of you will hate Floyd Mayweather even after he fux Pacquiao up and is inducted in the HOF undefeated. Pacquiao isnt even pushing for a Mayweather fight as hard as his fans are. If so it would have happened by now yet Mayweather is supposed to be the coward. Twisted logic spins mind games and angry fans keep this bull**** going while Mayweather has moved on to a game opponent. Khan and Paquiao should fight... You dont hear any Pacquiao or Khan fans pushing for that for some strange reason. They keep Mayweather on their minds more than this match up which would be quality. Goes to show they arent a fan of good fights they just want someone to defeat Mayweather for whatever reason. Martinez knocked Paul Williams out with a single punch. It was so devastating it was a knockout of the year for many people. That shot might have killed Mayweather. If he could do that to Williams who has a very good set of whiskers, what would he do to Mayweather who does not? This the same Mayweather who got his bell rung and went watery legged from a single punch from a totally shot Shane Mosley.

A Sherman Williams fight was well on it's way to being bad for Evander's health, until he quit. Povetkin will win this with ease. Why is this fight even being made? Was Muhammed Ali unavailable?

I thought he adjusted well I four and he blocked/slipped well for a lot of the fight. Getting caught in a good fight happens but he kept damage down and minimized follow up assaults. I thought his defense picked up after Arreola got discouraged by Stiverne's power and became less aggressive. From a defense standpoint, I thought that was more Arreola faded, not Stiverne adjusted. I also thought Stiverne had very poor head movement and ate way too many straight shots. Neither one was a defensive stalwart in that fight. Against a faster fighter with a reach, Stiverne would pay the price for that low left hand. I also think Arreola's power is a bit high. On one punch that he sits down on, he probably has B+ power, but he throws a lot of arm punches and doesn't appear to have much power at all in his combinations. I've always thought he was a bit of an accumulator fighter, not a real power guy. I agree with all your other ratings. Good comments as always and love the fact that you get on the boards and discuss your articles.