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i dont know **** about baksetball, but surely being the only asian-american in teh nba, has helped create abit more hype about this lin dude.. regarding dana white, imo he has a serious agenda here. whcih market is the ufc trying to get in on.? where are they doing their next show..? oh its in asia, nahhh.. must be a coincidence, that white is standing up for asia, just before getting ready to enter the blooming asian market

Probably Ticketmaster or direct from Warren's website. and allready thursday morning.??

how and where can you book..??

Nah, they'll probably give notice on Warren's site a week or 2 before they go on sale. I think that's what they did for the Hatton v tszyu fight. thanks mate.. just wondered as the author of the topic said thursday..

i think it should be rather divided.. post and pre 70s if we take the golden days of hw boxing, the ali, foreman, frazier liston era.. from the 70s and on i really dont think the sport has evolved that much, not since then.. ffs didnt an old george foreman make a comeback and beating the lineal champ moorer at an age close to 50.. take a look at the physique, the way their body was build, they were looked like athletes, the top of the hw division had tremendous physique back then, now take a look at top ten.. they look rather fat and bulked up, peter doesnt look trimmed, chagaev, toney and the list goes on . fuck it, the hw div more often then not, they look sloppy.. so i find it stupid to claim, that its has evolved that much.. in that era it was 15 rounds of boxing, whilr today its 10 or 12.. how does that mean evolvment.. some mentioned hearns, leonard amd duran.. ill include whitaker in that bunch, just to make a point... that must have been the most stupid and ignorant boxing fan ever.. hearns out of his prime, and out if ideal weight still fought for championship belts around the late 80s and early 90´s.. i guy like leonard, just look at the guy fighting, do you see such talent in todays boxing.. a guy like whitaker, what a talent, people today claim pbf is p4p, rewind the tape and time, here is a pbf-version just this is a punching versiion of a defensive wizard... with a punch put put of around 800-1000 punches a fight.. and whitaker, out of prime and out of his ideal weight class, fought tha golden boy and lost a very very controversial decision.. the golden boy, who would be the product of the evolved era.. i might add, that whitaker even landed more punches.. and whitaker isnt even the brightest stars of those in the 80s.. leonard is considered greater, as is duran, who fought for titles in aprox 20 years.. that should put things into a little perspective thsoe claiming the sport has evovled that much, are fucking retards.. as said earlier, we have a foreman at age close to 50, competing for the lineal title and won it.. hearns way out of prime and his original weight, started at 147 i believe and finishe at lhw, and stil copmpeting for titles.. we have a whitaker loosing a fight he should have won, to the product of the "evolved" generation.. the most evolved physical specimen in hw boxing history is tyson, far from today, his peak was also in the 80s.. someone mentioned rjj, well how oftern have we seen such talent..?? not that many times, but guess what, in the 80s there is a couple.. watch hearns and his technique, watch leonard.. watch whitaker, and youll se, that the 80s generation was filled with fighters, better then the ones today..

personally if joe wins, i would as a kessler fan, give him the respect he deserves.. does he fight in such a way, that the decision is witout a doubt, then i personally wont hesitate on giving my praise.. but the topic of the post, seems like a case of paranoia.. all fighters have haters and fans, nothing new to that.. i think that this is the biggest fight of joe+s career, its the chance of a lifetime, to become the undisputed champ of smw.. hard to complain about a fight, when the fighters are considered on a world wide basis, to be the 2 best. in the division... its what the sport needs.. a unified and undisputed champ... hopefully a bunch of undisputed champs ;-)

Kessler is fundamentally sound, but fights a bit robotic for a guy like Roy so I think Roy would have a good chance to beat Kessler, especially if Kessler doesn't pressure Roy and tries to fight Roy from a distance like he usually fights. He'd get picked apart pretty good. roys legs are gone, he aint sidestepping, he just moves back.. all the athletic gifts roy was blessed with, father time has taken back.. what kessler usually fights... do you think a talented fighter like kessler, doesnt have the adaptability to see roys weaknesses-- johnson stalking roy behind a high guard, and just beating him, whilr roy is in the ropes.. come on, johnson just walked him down and kessler is better then johnson.. the way to beat roy, was laid out by tarver, perfectly executed, and followed up by johnson.. this plan kessler could easely adapt..

youve gotta be kidding me.. what makes you think that what johnson did, kessler couldnt..? roy wouldnt stand a chance, kessler would easely back jones up, am punish him.. roy beats ham-who, and all of a sudden his dick is being sucked dry, by a bunch of retards living in the past.. one called kess amateurish.. nah mann, hamshaw is amateurish, and yet jones was pressured backwards and onto the ropes.. prime vs prime, nobody would stand a chance against roy at 168.. he would beat the living shit out of everyone at that weight..

its actually funny.. every boxing fan is screaming for the divisions to have undisputed champs.. and what does some boxing fan do, cry out and say, this isnt a superfight.. fucking retards-- had this been 2 undefeated americans, the amount of pr and hype sorrounding the fight, would be immense.. 1. two undefeated champs.. 2. 3 belts, had cal not dropped the ibf, all the belts worth mentioning would be involved 3. and mostimportantly, we will have 1 guy, who is the undisputed champ. its without a doubt the 2 best fighters in the div, and for one just to claim, this isnt a superfight, because joe will win easely, is pretty stupid if you ask me.. nobody is going to have a field day, this is going to be one tough fight for both of them,, now the last so called superfight, was pbf vs dlh, if i were to use the logic from earlier, i would say... well the p4p nr 1, against and old and retired dlh, thats easy to predict, of course the p4p nr 1 should win, therefore that wasnt a superfight..

Lol, how is this a superfight when Kessler just isnt that good, who has he fought to get this reputation??? Please tell me. His skills are good, but they dont justify the hype, and 168 is not a great divison which is why guys like Beyer and Kessler became champs, get real. And People werent saying DLH was old when they were saying he would KO floyd, lol. De La Hoya mayweather was a nearly a pick em fight, it was clearly a fight that could have gonna either way, thats what made it exciting, certainly in terms of hype. This is totally different, calzaghe is gonna have to lose this fight himself, i been saying it for a while, unless Kessler seriously improves his footwork within the next few months, he's gonna get found out. If Calzaghe easliy Ud's Kessler dont be suprised. Its all about perception, to me, no its not a superifight Bernard hopkins VS Winky Wright, thats a superfight, two p4p's going at it in what is expected to be the purest form boxing skill seen in a while. Kessler vs Calzaghe is a big fight to me, not a superfight tho. get real you say, and go on to mention hopkins vs winky.. because thet are p4p fighters.. is it the same hopkins that ruled a weak era, just a calzaghe did.. is this the same hopkins that lost 2 to taylor, and yet is still ranked top 5 p4p.. give me a break and why dont you get real.. the ring p4p rankings are blinded by the amercian fighters balls.. as for kessler, well he has beaten 2 champs, an has 2 belts, what more could he do. to get the belts??. and if you dont know it, when he steps in the ring in his last 5 fights, with the exception of eric lucas, has been ranked in the ring top 6.. thats since becoming a champ.. to me taht sound like a pretty good matchmaking just because usa doesnt have a contender, it doesnt mean that the boxers in the div are without talent..

The backstory behind the opinion you criticize is very ugly. TS you forlorn, hopless creature! care to explain what you exactly mean.?

I personally believe calzaghe will make kessler look silly and either ko him late or get a very wide ud agaisnt kessler. calzaghe will win. who has joe ko´ed in recent times..? if he had beaten the majority of his lates opponents by ko, then you could debate it, but your argument isnt supported by any evidence that would suggest a ko.. if the fight is in wales, joe is the favorit, cause in my opinion this will go 12 rounds.. everybody knows that the challenger must TAKE the titel away from the champ, plus joe has homefield advantage.. for kess to win he at least has to win 8-4 in rounds otherwise im afraid of the decisin.. 7-5 would probably not cut ith when fighting away.. ill give joe a slight edge and favour him 55-45 based on fighting in his backyard.. but this is not going to be easy, not for joe and not for mikkel.. had it been in denmark i would make kessler favorite , this would also be the case if it was neutral ground.. but you cant neglect the fact, that homefirld advantage could be a deciding factor, especially as i believ it will be close.. in the end, no matter what the outsone would be, you have to give the fighters te respect credit, how often in modern boxing do we get a UNDISPUTED champ.. respect to them both for wanting to deciding whos the best.. i hope it will be mikkel, but if joe does win, all resoect to him

Worst excuse ever. WHO THE FUCK IS KESSLER? 55/45, at the minimum in favour of Calzaghe. kessler is your daddy.. if joe wants fight in his backyard, he should pay for it.. and then a 50/50 split would be fair.. if it was in denmark, i would say joe would get 60, as mikkel has to pay for homefield

Calzaghe is going to break him I left Kessler a nasty message, saying how Calzaghe is going to whoop him and make him look like his a 5 yr old boy. Kessler fans don't take offense to that comment, I'm just wondering if the fans can get to kessler since he obviously reads his mail. HAHAHA... IM GONNA KNOCK YOU OUT!!! Calzaghes going to knock Kessler out and surprise people, in my opinion so you like the thought og growm men manhandling 5 year olds.. the only surprise you will be getting soon, is when i step out of your mommy´s bedroom:la: , to give you a couple of clazaghe like slaps :fing26:

According to you in the past 1500 posts...Calzaghe is not a class fighter. just because he thinks kessler wins, doestn mean he think joe stinks.. no body in their right mind,can claim either is a bad fighter.. well to the answer your question peder, if kessler could chose without limitations, then a southpaw, with fast hands, good wovement and elusive , then there is only one other fighter to chose.. chad dawson..

te closest in speed, footwork and lefthande is chad dawson, but that aint happening, but in a picture perfect kessler world, dawson would be a perfect sparring partner..

who the fuck can call mayorga a disgrace.. must be an idiot to say shit like that.. you just have to do this, first you watch forrest vs mosley 1 and 2.. then you watch, mayorga vs forrest 1 and 2.. who could give a shit, about what fighters are doing outside of the ring.. some you like, some you dislike, but the sport of boxing contains a lot of elements from the society, who comes from enviroments not suited for people.. if you wanna hate mayorga, then why not hate tyson, or any other boxer who has been smoking, drinking,partying, eating abnormally or breaking the law and so on..

i think its funny how everybody is saying, the old world champ merce will this and that, he is old, he is out of shape and not even the half the fighter he was MANY years ago.. he WAS a monster, but years of fighting and several years in retirement does indeed take its toll on the system. personally i think mercer was picked as an easy target, he is a very well known fighter,and therefore kimbo´s meal-ticket to fame.. i remember his k-1 fight, 1 and only 1 fucking high kick and he was not having it anymore.. to me he doesnt seem as a man willing to dig deep anymore.. kimbo beats mercer because mercer is way to old, he conditioning is below what is necessary.. and this isnt what mercer is used to, put on the gloves and would bet on mercer, but in a mma fight kimbo is the better man

If it affects the possibility of Calzaghe fighting Hopkins/Wright in January then of course it fuckin matters. All because Palle wants his party. Well, Palle, you can do one. does it now.. when did he fight manfredo, wasnt that in april, and after that he offered to fight kessler in july, which leaves him just about 3- 3 months of preparations.. if this is his the way, accordign to both warren and cal, then he could be ready in feb 2008 which would mean there aint no problem.. so you can relax now

Who the fuck cares whether it is going to happen in september or november.. palle could make it december, throw a christmas party, make kess and joe fight in santa´s costumes, i dont care, just as long as the fight happens.. hej jan, hvorfor kopierer du min post fra east-side-boxing.. :owned: translated.. hey jan, why did you copy my post from ********:owned:

.....God I hope your wrong, because we will never hear the end of it from the Kimbo fanatics. personally i enjoy boxing hell of a lot more than mma, if i want to se a couple of brutal ko´s sure, i can watch mma or k-1, but nothing compares to boxing.. so therefor i agree, it would not just be kimbo´s manly lovers going bananas its going to be the whole entire mma community.. it will be awful.!!

Where would he rank amougst the greats? if he beat Kessler where would you rank him all time, top 10, 20, 100. etc, You can improvise if you like and also tell us where you think he ranks all time as an SM if you like. dont really know where to place joe in an atg list.. but.. if he beats kessler, then he has cleaned out the division, and is a undefeated, unified and undisputed smw champ that in itself will look good when being compared to other atg.. and it will surely, when the dust settles , be looked at, as a great achievement.. every fighter that has cleaned out their respective divisions, is in my book a great fighter..

Because it was so damm funny,sorry hehe.. bare rolig hr, jeg er helt enig..:boxing: :boxing:

anybody got anything? nothing so far...

You have to use IE for the streams to work everyone...Still though, nothing appeared so far for me :( what is IE or should it say IT..

when i go through and press that nbalive shit, i end getting this shit, and it states i need zapto.. ' others having this probelm http://live-nba.powered-by.zango.com/?a670a976f6/ga671ac7bf3&s=http%3A//www.live-nba.org/Kessler_Sartison_1.html

Yes, get that shit off your computer bro. Seriously.. No joke. That shit is like chinese toothpaste, it'll kill your computer. then how do we go about then, as its says zapto is needed..?

I read on another forum that this stream is dead. I guess we'll have to wait and see, but it does not look promising. me too.. but one guy said it would work at 22.00 here in dk, so taht is about 5 min from now, cross your fingerss mann

Have you Brits (and/or Euros) ever noticed that you are always dying to see American fights....and they rarely care about yours? Doesn't that tell you something about the quality of your "champions"? shouldnt you be practising latin american dansin´

anyone previous tried to download this zapto shit..? if so, was it easy to remove and did normal spyware such as norton remove any virusses, that zapto caused.. would be nice to know, whether its worth it or not