Actually they did both test positive for Dihydrogen Monoxide. USADA was paid off to hide the result from what I heard from my cousin who dates a chick whos brother works for the sister of a dude at HBO...
But I also heard they never tested, which obviously makes sense now that the tesing data has been posted. It wasnt even on 24/7 so duh... Of course there were no tests...
lol
six degrees of separation... :lol1:
Exactly, they set the standards and oversee the testing but they don't do the testing themselves. Now it's clear you don't know your sh*t.
and USADA doesn't do testing themselves.. according to conte
USADA does not do any type of drug testing themselves, they simply refer the testing out to a WADA accredited laboratory
you're just like that little pot calling the kettle black.. :lol1:
10 days out? wtf.. i though flomo ped experts here in nsb are saying that anyone can cycle off on undetectable peds in 24hours/1day.. what if floyd or ortiz uses that ped? 10 days out is not enough.. they could have cycled off that undetectable ped..
and what about the other fighters in the undercard? their fights not validated as well if they didn't do osdt.. there's no certainty that they are clean.. there is no level playing field on those fights...
as per flomo logic..
It's funny that when Manny stated with a cutoff period the Floyd fans went crazy and that its not OST therefore NOT acceptable ....
BUT
if Floyd doesn't do real OST then the Floyd fans say, "oh well, this is the best that it gets" meaning GOOD ENOUGH BECAUSE FLOYD SAYS SO!!! lol!
+1
it's not that unbelievable when you compare it to the 'you're next!'...'don't put words in my mouth' debacle.. :lol1:
looks like the mayweather OSDT crusade is not what it seems.. and kizer's pwning USADA's proclaimed 'cleanest figther'..
flomo: kizer don't know sh|t about boxing..
:lol1: and with this floyd words:
before: pacman your next...
now : don't you dare put words in my mouth..
holy sh|t.. he's starting to sound like arum.. hahahaha..
:lol1: at flomos foaming at the mouth and grasping at straw in their quest to defend their contradictory man-god.. must be pretty fscking hard and tiring at the same time..
does kizer+usada having a lover's quarrel with floyd? why is kizer divulging these facts?
^^ :lol1: flomos logic's getting more absurd as minutes goes by..
if your a true fan then rag on everybody fighting without your beloved oST.. it's not only pac who's fighting nowadays.. until flomos start doing to every other boxers, currently fighting, what they're doing to pac then you guys are just a sorry lot of hypocrites..
:lol1: at flomos trying to uplift other flomos morale.. then we got greenburg.. now we got kizer.. who's next? we know it won't be pac cause floyd don't want no one putting words in his mouth..
^^ hey time and again pac have reiterated that he's gonna take floyd's OST.. now you guys keep on posting old vids before pac and arum's saying that they will agree to any floyd's test and make it sound like pac's camp then keep on flip flopping.. now who's fscking twisting anything?
fsck.. how many times does pac need to say he would agree to any testing before any of these fscking flomos believe him.. although i know that it's fscking next to impossible because flomos have the tendency to be selective about what they fscking read when it comes to pac.. pac may scream at the top of his fscking lungs about his willingness to take their fscking vaunted ost but they'd never believe.. they'll twist it any way they want to fuel their fscking hate..
and another thing you fskcing flomo hippos.. pac is not the only boxer that is currently fighting.. so please be fair when you saddle up on your 'OST' high horse and call all the other boxers out there and not focus on just one boxer.. you fscking hippos..
Notice that I used that very statement as AN EXAMPLE (hence the word "example").I don't know these people anymore than you do,yet the difference is,you will lie and act codependent for Manny,whereas I am calling it as I see it.
Also note that I don't view boxers the same as you do.I don't idolize them.I respect what they do IN the ring,and it ends there.Most of these guys are far from role models-that includes "your boy" as well.
Around here you have to be as subtle as a brick....even then, the retreads don't get it. SMH
hahaha.. lie.. hey.. i'm not the one 'twisting' facts here.. remember your 'not seeking a fight' post.. and if you're calling it as it is, then why not start with the hypocrisy of this OST issue? you keep on harping about pac but won't rag other boxers that are actively fighting without it.. how fscking biased and hypocritical of you..
and if you're really calling it as it is.. then you'd know that this OST issue is just a pissing contest between two fighter on top of their game with huge egos.. now that's calling it as it is..
Like I said (thanks for proving my point), IMO Manny "agrees" to randomized testing WHILE FLOYD IS AWAY from the sport.When Floyd gets an opponent and returns to the sport,then Pac has an issue with USADA-sounds like posturing to me.
Who is putting up the roadblocks when it comes to submitting to random drug testing? In fact, since Floyd has come back to boxing recently,when has Pac started to agree to random testing? Now the only thing you hear is Ariza saying they won't do the tests and say the fight is to be on Manny's terms.Are you sure it isn't YOU who has selective hearing????
usada.. holy sh|t.. that fscking floyd attack dog when he first started this OST crusade?
and what the hell? you're saying that it's not right for pac to try to coax out floyd from hiding when he's on vacation.. then where the hell was he before he fights ortiz? not in vacation anymore? really the your and your man-god's contradiction is staggering.. and your god only comes out AFTER pac have signed another fight.. and talk trash left and right about pac..
uh huh,sure.If we are to take one guy's word for it,then someone must be lying,eh? Floyd has shown proof that he is willing to undergo testing,it is the contract that Manny refused to sign.
Try asking team Pac at the same day if the testing will be agreed on and you will get a number of different responces-lol
holy fsck.. :pat: i can't believe your delusion.. you really, actually believe that there's a contract.. oh my god.. hey.. let's go by with the timeless flomo reasoning..
'oh please.. show me the contract of which floyd is talking about and i'd shut my trap'..
so if and when a flomo fan starts doing to other boxers what they are doing to pac when it comes to OST issues.. if and when a flomo starts creating thread after thread, ragging other fighters not doing OST before fighting.. i'd be the first one to give him props.. i'd even give him greens and all the points i have if i've got any..
what sucks is dealing with the huge contradictions that your man-god seems to create everytime he opens his mouth.. which leave you guys with the problem of how to twist 'facts' just to defend these contradictions.. have a good day.. and maybe next time, you'd be fair whenever you rode on your OST high horse again and call all boxers and not focus your fscking hatred on one man.. fscking hippos.. and yeah.. good day again!..
Floyd showed the contract on his live stream. Why wasn't Manny's signature on it???? Weird for a guy who you claim agrees to drug testing.
BTW-do you think everyone should give up 10,000,000 dollars per pound over the weight limit? Just curious,because Manny has come over weight in the past-weird that he would try to assert this in a contract with Floyd.:buttkick:
oh really.. why not post pics of it here.. make if readable please.. although yes, its valid if any reputable boxing site wrote an article of it with every dotted i's and crossed t's is written in the article.. a picture of the signature would be awesome too.. i'd like to see where floyd signature have been and where pac have supposedly not signed.. but please, none of that floydhype.com site please.. then i'll shut my trap.. or else it's just chalk it up to your never ending delusion when it comes to everything that floyd says..
^^ holy sh|t.. i can't believe your rationalization.. if you guys want playing field then do it to everybody.. not just select a few.. DO IT TO EVERYBODY..
and hey like i said you guys are afflicted with this 'selective reading' syndrome but pac keep on saying that he tried to see if OST's the only thing keeping the fight from happening so he agrees to everything but still floyd won't be coaxed to come out from his 'vacation'..
I don't view Floyd as a god...don't confuse the way I view a fighter as the way YOU view them.
Manny has had several fights lined up without even negotiating or seeking a Floyd fight.You must have forgotten his Margarito shot that happened while they were "negotiating" a second time-remember,the one where Arum wasn't at! lmao
so it's true.. you really are afflicted with that 'selective reading' syndrome.. there have been countless articles saying that pac tried to get floyd out of his vacation by agreeing to his testing request, thinking that it's the only hindrance for the fight not happening.. now you are saying pac never seeks for a floyd fight.. holy sh|t.. what the fsck is these articles talking about if not seeking for a fight against floyd..
how can anyone take you seriously when you ONLY see the contradictions of ONE SIDE, when BOTH camps made numerous contradictory statements.
I'm a HUGE pac fan and almost exclusively watch Pac fights, BUT i'm also seriously disappointed in how he handled the negotiations for a fight with floyd.
that said, the floyd camp are no better for making numerous contradictory, RACIST statements and making numerous roadblocks in making the fight happen.
BOTH camps are at fault, but hopefully, assuming Pac would knock out Marquez, i believe a fight between the two would happen on 2012.
call me an optimist, but that's how i see it.
hopefully this fight does happen.. and there's a chance of this happening once pac get through marquez.. now that the OST question seems to be resolved with pac saying again and again that he will agree to any test floyd ask, there's still huge roadblock ahead.. both camps are ragging each other for the past 3 years because of OST only.. they haven't began with the biggest issue of all when it comes to this fight.. the PURSE split.. both of these fighters have huge egos as we have seen with the OST issues which is really a pissing contest between these two camps.. when these camps starts talking about purse split... fsck.. just try to imagine what we've gone through with the OST issue and multiply it by ten-fold..
and so going by gino 'troll' ross logic on his flomo circle-jerk thread.. whenever OST is not used there will always be 'doubts'.. winners 'might' be juicing and losers are left to 'wander' if the playing field is even.. so when are you fscking flomo hippos gonna get on your OST high horse and ragged on everybody not taking the OST before fighting.. you fscks keep on ragging on one fighter only as if he's the only active fighter in the sports of boxing.. so if you gonna get on your OST high horse then be fscking fair for once.. you fscking hippocrites.. :lol1:
it does seem like these flomos really afflicted with the 'selective-reading' syndrome.. pac may say in countless articles and videos that he would agree to any testing floyd could think of but they still won't believe.. i mean yes they're working on the FLOMO-LAW that says 'EVERYTHING PAC SAYS IS FOR SH|T AND EVERYTHING OUR MAN-GOD SAYS IS FOR REAL', but still this is unbelievable.. :nonono:
so from now on, every time a boxer loses there will be doubt if OST is not used in any fight.. winner will be suspected of drug use and loser will be 'left wandering' if the playing field is even.. ok i get it now..
so.. when are you flomos gonna start ragging on any boxer that is gonna fight from now on without OST? when are you gonna start creating threads after threads, calling out these puss|es for not doing OST before their fight?
gino ros' so mad, he put me on the ignore list of his circle-jerk flomo thread.. :lol1: what's with these flomos, they're so sensitive that they have got no stomach for any 'lively conversation'.. oops, sorry my bad.. i just remember that flomos are a lot braver when they're in a circle-jerk flomo thread like that one.. :bottle:
If I were to use subtleties,it would fly over your head.If you overlook facts in front of your face,how the hell are you going to understand subtleties????!!!
If I am blatant or deliberate,it is because I have little faith in your comprehension.
if i can discern your hippocrisy, when you're trying so hard to mask it as logic, then i don't think i'd have any trouble if, and that's a big if, you start being subtle.. and another thing, just like floyd, i don't have to worry when it comes to having a 'debate' with you cause you're pwning yourself just fine with your own contradiction..
Not bothered at all. What we are talking about is the drug testing and negotiations,not personalities and character flaws.We could be here all day if you wanna talk about guys who claim to be with god while cheating on their wife and knocking up whores....(example)
This debate isn't about morals or character,it is about the drug testing/negotiations. Do you understand why it is important to stick to the topic????
you really are a conflicted fellow.. in one statement you condemn one thing then totally contradicts what you've wrote in the next one.. and without subtlety at all..