U can slap an person around and manhandle them without going all out for the KO.
The level of intelligence is scary.
This is it exactly. He was not going to try knock her out. He probably gave her the back of the hand lightly and dragged her around a bit (or something like that)
If you punched someone in the back of the head, bruising and lumps would be the last of the persons problems.
Maybe he didn't punch her full force in the back of the head, ffs, a bit of common sense here
I don't want to ever see Mosley step foot in the ring again so no it wouldnt interest me.
I used to like Mosley. He's been shot for a long time which wouldn't bother me but he was gutless against Pac, I have no interest in fighters who are only there for a paycheck and have no heart.
4.He can show hes better than pacman by KOing him or beatin him more impressivley and show hes the true p4p king
How? Martinez is a middleweight. How would the #1 middleweight beating a shot light middleweight show he's #1 p4p?
Anyway the fight would be a non contest.
no real boxing fan is looking forward to any of pacs fights..jmm at catch weight???? That fight means nothing only the pacfarts gonna watch that sh** fight lol floyd is always stepping up and fighting the best..
I'm not looking forward to Pac vs Marquez but I think your forgetting that Floyd also fought Marquez at a catch weight. He also turned up overweight.
Did you enjoy the Floyd vs JMM fight? Either you have a very poor memory or know **** all about the sport
Great vid, probably could have done with more Marquez and also I didn't see any 90's Roy Jones, maybe I just missed him but he was boxer of the decade and went years hardly loosing a round
He has, and much bigger men than himself. You guys are forgetting that Martinez himself is a small middleweight.
He isn't, he said he can't go below 155/156 and struggled to make the weight for the williams fight this time around
It's a catch-22 here. Can't beat up on a 164lb man and then claim Martinez is too big. You mean too good.
164lb on fight night, Marg was 150 at weigh in and spent most of his career at WW. Manny weighed 144 when the limit was 150 and you expect him to fight a guy who recently struggled to make 157
Thirdly, Manny destroyed the guy who destroyed him, Antonio Margarito. Really sound like a scared challenge to me.
Ye, that was 10 years ago at 147, you do know that Martinez only started boxing at the age of 20 so was only boxing around 5 years when he faced Marg
you are not a big fan of pac real pac fans have at least 13 sigs of him that being said I think you're a young kid who heard his brother or father talk about boxing now you're on here killing us with your non sense.
I couldn't be bothered making sigs, it's a waste of time. As for kid, no i'm 28.
Think for a second, Pac weighed in at around 144 for the last fight, if he was to fight Martinez the weight would be set at around 154, Martinez would enter the ring at about 170, Pac would weigh around 147.
Sergio has alot of power and Pac wouldn't hurt him, Pac would be brutally KO'd.
Your a clown, simple as, I can only hope for your sake your not serious, don't know why i'm wasting my time arguing with you though
Im a big fan of Pac but this thread is a joke, if you really believe that Pac would stand any chance against Martinez you know nothing about boxing.
Mayweather would stand a better chance as he's naturally bigger than Pac but mayweather would be brutally KO'd by Martinez at anything from 154 or over
pac is too fast for him and martinez has many bad habits which roach would expose.
All Martinez needs to do is land once and he'd have plenty of time to do it cause Pac wouldn't get him out of there.
Do you think Pac would also beat Vitali as well because he'd be too fast for him, do you box yourself?
Britain, we've already started the take over.
With who? Froch is not the best super middle, Ward and Bute are better.
Haye is not the best heavyweight, the K's are better.
Khan might be the best Light Welter, we'll have to wait and see.
Who else is there, Matthew Hatton?
Shane ran against Pac, he didn't run against Floyd so ended up in worse shape. Wtf is wrong with people that they can't see the obvious, the amount of these **** threads is unbelievable
that made no sense
Engaging more frequently with a opponent that is better than you makes you get beaten up worse. Shane tried to fight more with Floyd. What part of that do you not understand?
No he isn't.But people are saying too big because they realy mean too good.They fought Margarito because they've seen his last 2 fights.They won't fight Martinez because they've also seen his last 2,what's the difference??
The fact that he weighed in at under 145 when the limit was 150 proves that he's barely even a WW. He has never even weighed 146.
Martinez weighed close to 159 in his last weigh in.
People say he's to big because he's too big, theres nearly 14lbs in the difference between what they last weighed it at. I get tired listening to the bs
mosley and marquez are tune ups for floyd but the best available fights for the #1 boxer in the sport. What is life like in delusion land?
Marquez at 135 as opposed to 147, I know your biased but i'm sure you can see the difference
probally cause manny and floyd have both fought at 154,won the wbc title there and thats where they can fight martinez..move up 1 division and he move down 1 division..no big deal
Pac won the title at that weight but in reality the limit was 150 so he didn't really win a light middleweight title. It was also against Margarito who is quite limited.
Pac weighed in at 144 for the fight as well, it was only his ability that allowed him to beat the bigger guy.
If Pac were to fight Sergio, there would probably be more than 10lbs between them at the weigh in and nearly 30 lbs between them on fight night, it's just not realistic
I don't know how Martinez is being mentioned for a potential matchup with Floyd or Pac, he's far too big. Pac weighed in at 144 for the Margarito fight, he's never been much over that, even on the night of the fight
manny has weighed in at 148 is im not mistaking and it will only get heavier as he ages
The heaviest he ever weighed in at was just under 146 and he is not dehydrated when weighing in (as all other fighters are), this is proven by the fact that he enters the ring near the weight he weighs in at.
Manny's best weight would be 140 at the very most
but toney is still more well known than the guys they are fighting
But now he's well known for being **** and totally past it. He's just seen as an overweight slob.
I will be watching his fight against Solis, Solis is an Olympic gold medallist and while I give him no chance, some people believe he will beat Vitali. If Vitali was fighting Toney, there's no way i'd bother watching.
Hugh Grant is better known than the guys they are fighting, it doesn't mean that Grant v Vitali is the fight everyone wants to see.
There's a difference between being past your best and totally finished, Toney is totally finished and everyone knows it, heavyweight wasn't even Toneys best weight
It was the CW severely hurting Margo , its during the training to make the catch weight the damage is done , adding water the day before does not rebuild the weeks of too low a bodyfat which causes muscle wasting ...
Ok, so you believe Marg was seriously weight drained, fair enough. How does that add to the argument that Pac is a light middleweight fighter (or do you remember what were discussing here?).
I'm saying Pac is not really a light middleweight, and did not really win the title. Do you disagree?
Cotto weighed in at 146 in the fight before Pac, I know you may conveniently forget that. Be real here, Cotto would never have beaten Pac
why else do you think segio is calling out pacquiao and mayweather
smart man. he could fight 3 years against nobodies or beat a legend
There's a difference, Mayweather and Pac are currently at the top of their game. They're the top 2 p4p fighters in the world. Both would be easy fights for Martinez due to the weight but both are massive draws due to their CURRENT standing in boxing.
Toney's CURRENT standing in boxing is nowhere, he is not a draw because everyone knows he is long finished, noone would pay to see that ****
leave the excuses to the promoters man..they are marketing manny as an 8 weight champion...he won martinezs vacant belt...they can meet at 154...manny fights at 147..matinez fights at 160..they both can meet in the middle 154..it gets no more fair than that..fans wanna see the best fight the best
I'm not making excuses you fool, I like both of these fighters, I don't favour one over the other.
Marketing and reality are 2 very different things and your telling me to stop listening to promoters, it's you who is listening to promoters, I never said I consider him to be a light middleweight champion. I don't think Manny has EVER weighed in at more than 145. He may have beaten a guy who weighted in at 150 but thats only cause the guy is rubbish
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Jones owned b-hop in that debate.
He did but I was still totally unconvinced by him, I hate BHOP but Jones really stands no chance in this fight, i'm sick that he took it, why gives Hokins the chance to put one over on him?
Jones was the greater fighter, now he's going to get retired by hopkins, he wil regret this fight