Floyd is a businessman. He fights for money. That's common knowledge.
He'll make an unbelievable amount of money by fighting Paqciao than fighting anybody else. That's also common knowledge.
He knows he'll make tons of money he never would have earned figthing other fighters. But he just won't fight Manny.
Is this guy not worried about his ducking legacy? He's about to retire and still not doing something about it.If the history books are accurate/not missing chapters and not Dr'd, and if the person reading that book has any sense they'll see the truth (Mannys PED card got pulled, his PR machine/media bamboozaled the already blind into thinking they see)
All of a sudden (3 years later) he decided the blood test WONT weaken him? But in that time he was cleaning up, he started looking human LMBAO!!!!
It's not a matter of Floyd ducking, it's a matter of Manny getting medically prepared for that A$$ whoopin.
It reminded me of the Calzaghe/Jones one. Nobody wants to see two family men without a fanbase. It was nice seeing Scully there but man this is another waste of 24/7. 24/7 should have used one before the Amir Khan vs. Danny Garcia fight, that would have been awesome the trash talk from Garcia's father and Khan and Roach talking crap back, and than the outcome of the fight lived up to the hype it was a war and Garcia knocked out the favorite in sensational fashion. 24/7 should stop doing them for Mayweather and Pacquiao we already know these guys, but also they need to start choosing the fights that have interesting prefight hype not two family men who are pretty boring and stale. The chavez vs. Martinez one should be good even if its in subtitles cause there is geniuine beef and you know for a fact it will live up to the hype and be worth the ppv price someone is going to get messed up in that fight these guys aren't all talk. Also I would love to see 24/7 Brandon Rios vs. Victor Ortiz, but part of that back story is gone the fued between Robert and Danny Garcia which has been squashed since Victor fired Danny. But the beef betwen Rios and Ortiz is still there. Hbo should have also tried to land Haye vs. Chisora, that could have been major ratings in America the pre fight build up was hyped, and the fight ended in knockout. So why'd you watch it?
What u guys think about that plan? Good way to build up hype for either fight... I doubt Bradley can make a Marquez fight boring, not to mention they're perfect stylistic equals
This is my biggest dream fight right now, and it would help clear the smoke for Pacquiao's next opponentSo the 2 guys that beat Manny should fight eachother, and the winner can fight him again? Times have changed:pat:
Post video with the evidence or get reported.reported LMBAO! You people are pathetic. Just watch the end of the fight and watch Arum as he goes over to talk to Juan.
Don't be mad at me, I'm just putting the info out, asking questions & calling BS BS...
TS ruined himself in his own thread. No need to argue with children.
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Facts are facts man, don't get mad at me cause u fell for the 42 fake. 3 years being lied to, ship sinking and U MAD!
Generic Pac hate thread #45345
It's getting old. It's really no wonder why posters like you are in red.
Hate thread? You label the truth hate??? Seems to me being red means you didn't fall for all the BULLSHYT they force fed the rest of you dumbasses!
With the huge agreement with espn to help promote the fight for the first time I think this fight is going to have 1.5 million PPV Buys.Who said it did 1.3, Bob? Unless HBO releases the numbers I don't buy it, Bobs known to embellish.
But I stopped caring how much a fight does, I don't buy um anyway (But I will be watching "wink wink")
When in doubt, go on vacation and let them beat up each other.
Come back from vacation after they beat each other up.
Undefeated. If they were as good as him they wouldn't be getting beat up, they'd just cruise to victory
Once being connect on the rope, output rate drops. Hearn focks Mayweather at any weight. I wouldn't go that far, Hearns had a china chin. Once Tommy got hurt, he stayed hurt
Has anyone ever achieved as much notoriety as this guy for such a grotesque error in officiating?
Yes,Manny over JMM, 3 times...
other guys who got obvious gifts at megafights like Trinidad or Holyfield were already big names when they got them
But do you blame them for the judges actions also?
All i can think of is Montel Griffin,and we all know what happened in the rematch
But it also happend in the first fight remember
Now we have to sit through another pointless rematch which will probably be as one sided as their first fight, Manny is too fast and powerful for Bradley, the worst part will be the build up of the fight, they will be acting like bradley is some kind of big time player now You blame Timmy for a "Bad call" by the judges like you Blame Floyd for Bob blocking the fight, your anger is missdirected...
For the guys asking "Why does Floyd need a tune up" % the guys saying "How is Timmy a tune up"
History taught me that basically anybody Floyd fights besides Manny/Sergio & King Kong gets defanged and called hand picked. So me classifying Timmy as a "Tune up", is just nipping it in the bud.
For the guys asking about the buisness head butt stuff...
I'm well aware of the situation, but the same people asking the question blame the road block for Manny & Floyd not fighting on Floyd?
You can't have it both ways guys.
Bradleys not a tune up for anyone, and no, he's signed to Top Rank.Really?I think you went a lil too far, I'm asking as a boxing fan not a buisness fan.
I see Tim as a game opponent but no match for Floyd over 12...... So Timmy being TR would prevent the fight, can I ask who you think would prevent this and why?
all conte did with VADA was help educate margareth goodman on PEDs...that's it...VADA is an independent organization, so anyone who is involved in the sport of boxing, MMA, etc. have no say whatsoever in the decision making at VADA..they have their own panel of people that come together and make the decisions.
this idea that conte helped put together VADA and their testing protocols is a myth...And the facts still remain, Conte is involved on both sides.
god damn broner..i mean, floyd is annoying too but even floyd fans get annoyed by this dumb son of a b1tch...that should tell you something..
i mean come on, floyd fans pretty much can stomach floyd eating corn out of 50 cent's sh1t but many of em depise this dumb purse snatchin twat...Boxing fans commenting on a fighters looks? Basically calling other fighter cute, and more deserving of calling people ugly? Times have changed
Look a little deeper into Broners past. He is an accomplished amatuer boxer so he is more than capable at boxing. What he HAS done is make the transformation into pro boxing which is abit more flat footed so "power" is at any beckoned call.
Now as to Manny, I doubt Broner is in Mannys plans, Juan or Floyd are at the top and a possible warm up if it looks to be in Sept is understood!
Your (cix3) obviously not interested in Mannys future, rather another hater of quality fighters who don't know you from adam (diarhea)!!!!
I'm guessing from your little avitar pic you haven't much respect for people who could squash you! Oh well just another hater!! Ray.WTF are u talkin about..... You seem a lil but hurt
Yes floyd used the testing to avoid Pac. Rigo agreed to testing a long time ago, Donaire never demanded itIs that why he threatened to not show if Rig didnt sign? Jesus Christ u people LOL>>>>>
And wasnt it Nonitos stance that "Even if the fighter didnt want to test, he'd fight anyway?"
Arce didnt test, the Japanese guy didnt test, why the fuss over Rig?
Okay, what testing agency besides USADA, which by common knowledge is too expensive for all but the wealthiest of fighters, is better than VADA? There people who would argue VADA, even at the cheaper price, is better than USADA. I'll assume you disagree, which is fine. So what testing is better?
Be suspicious all you want. In today's sporting world, I'm certainly suspicious. But VADA is the best testing he can do, and he's doing it year round, at random. That's better than anyone else in the sport is doing.The argument is not Better or worse, the problem is Conte is involved on both sides.
Unball ur fist and pay attention......
If ur suing ur job would u use there lawyer?
He FORCED like 3 guys to do testing for 1 of their fights and 2 of those guys failed and didnt even get in trouble for it :lol1:
Only thing he exposed is that boxing doesnt care if guys take steroidsAnd neither do you Mr "Let the commish do their job" "Why does Floyd need better testing" "Floyds scared cuz he wants testing" LOL, oh how the worm turns when its ur guy asking
VADA is the most legit option for 90% of the sport because its the best testing that can be paid for by the fighters involved. Donaire doesn't "prefer" it, its the best he can afford.
Conte doesn't run VADA or control it. Donaire does the most legit testing of any fighter in the sport. If you are suspicious of him, then you better be just as suspicious of every single fighter in the sport.It really just sounds like ur parroting what uv heard dude, a vett is not the best just becuz u drive one. I get it, ur riding with Nonito, but like I say "Conte is involved on both sides".
Could u imagine what people would say if Floyds supplier advised USADA? (And Floyds supplier was a convicted PED dealer)????
The testing should be neutral
He was actually with Conte. Conte gave him supplements and Berto also used his own ones. This can be confirmed if you do some Googling or actually have a decent memory. I gather you have a poor memory.I do remeber, but Berto was not contracted exclusivly to Conte.
In going on his own he let Conte off the hook of suspicion, if he had not taken other sups no telling what could have been.
Read the whole thing and not just the parts that make u feel like ur smart
Rigo already agreed to it. LOL>>>>>>Agreed but didnt sign (At the time)...
Are u just acting stupid or do you really think avoiding the obvios is a slick move?
That's not even remotely close to the same argument. From what I understand, Conte does not work for VADA, does not influence them in any way, he was one of the consultants used to develop their testing procedures.
If you're going to be suspicious of Donaire, you better be just as suspicious of every single other fighter in the sport, or you're too biased to be taken seriously in this conversation. Ul deny it but you just owned urself.... He's involved on both sides DUMBAZZ
Bojangles answered your question, but you didnt like it (classic)Bojangles only parroted what he heard, where the Fook did he get the 90% from?
Its obvious Conte is involved on both sides, but I guess cuz u like Nonito it doesnt matter.
So who would you have help develop your testing procedures? Why wouldn't you get people like Conte to help you figure out how to detect the latest performance enhancers? Its not like Conte was the only expert they brought in, that he developed the entire test himself and gave it to VADA afterwards. VADA isn't the one destroying samples when guys test positive either.
Again, Conte deserves suspicion because of who he is, and maybe Donaire as well. I don't blame anyone who is suspicious. But if you are suspicious of Donaire, you better be suspicious of everyone or you are biased and just trying to make the argument fit an agenda. Which you are, so whatever. I'm not exactly that concerned with changing your mind.Trust me I suspect them all (Floyd included).. But when you have obvious dots to connect its worse.
The testing "Should be" nuetral is all Im saying
a myth according to margareth goodman (founder of VADA)....she sought out conte and many other people with expert knowledge on PEDs in order to expand her knowledge on PEDs so that she can develop the best testing protocols...
conte has no influence whatsoever on the decision making in VADA...Again the fact still remains, Conte is involved on both sides dude.