Never felt like I got screwed over with the Mayweather-Ortiz fight. As oppose to what we got in Hopkins-Dawson, I would have rather seen Bernard take a hellish beating as oppose to that, that's how bad it was, and Hopkins is my favorite fighter too. I'd rather he retire than have to deal with these inconsistencies, I thought there was no coming back from the Roy Jones rematch, that fight was horrible :nonono:
i used to like hopkins but his act is just old now. he doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt we saw how he acted when he got tapped below the belt or the back of the head against roy jones and calzaghe he put on this production as if he was in terrible pain.... how do u think we should act if he falls on the fllor. he couldve at least tried to fight on instead of calling it quits on the ground. the old man needs to go
Everyone in all professions generally make the decision to go with the money...why wouldn't they...especially in a profession where you put you health and life on the line.
except for pacquiao apparently....
hmmmm i wonder why he doesnt want to make the most money in his career
:puppy_dog
Lol know i'm wrong?
I am 100% right, neither Cotto or Margarito have never beaten a great fighter. And they have lost to most of the good fighters they fought. Cotto got a gift dec against Mosley, a fight that was better suited to be a draw. And then Clottey? Come on, Clottey beat him worse than Mosley.
Look at the fighters in your sig and try and i dare you to try and tell me that if Cotto is a bum they are not. and please save urself the embaressment and dont try and play it off like they are so much better then cotto
But when you have a shot at making millions, are you going to turn it down... Let me ask that again. Would you, Bullq, turn down millions of dollars? Come on bro.
And let's be fair with Sergio. He is very skilled and very talented yet he is not getting the kind of money his skills should be getting him .. and he's 36. Cotto is 30 and he's already a millionaire. Poor Sergio is the victim of bad marketing and promotion company. He has earned and deserves to make more.
sergio could have fought pirog and it would have been a career high payday, instead he fought barker... its fishy.
Like you wouldn't in this economy. These guys have families to feed and who doesn't want to make money?
Stop talking out of your azz.
This is boxing and they are big names.... if they fight two ****ty fights a year they r pullin at they very least 250k.
jmm isnt that bad but sergio is bein straight up *****. I mean who ever heard a mw champ calling out two small ww.
Hey, you know what, to every one arguing with me about my opinion on these two fighters. If you think so highly of them, good for you, I don't care. You're not gonna change my opinion on them. And there's no point arguing about it.
If I had a dime for every time some one says something bad about Roy, Mayweather, Taylor, and I didn't say anything about that posters opinion, i'd be rich.
But you're here defending Cotto and Margarito, ffs.
I can't remember the last time I said my opinions on a fighter in person, and some one jumped all over me. This only happens on the internet. Like really, you would get all defensive over Cotto and Margarito? I don't believe any of you would.
Awww the little baby got called out on his ****ty opinion and knows he is wrong yet is to proud to admit it. We're not gettin defensive over cotto and marg we are getting over youre retarded opinion that you know is stupid
This just in everyone in boxing is a bum besides Mayweather and Pacquiao ahahaha.
I don't need to re-evaluate anything. I know exactly what I mean when I say bum. Skill wise, defense wise, they're bums. They have trouble beating B fighters, they only look good against C fighters. C=bum.
Just cause they're high-profile fighters, doesn't mean they're good or great, they're just high profile bums. Creations of Bob Arum, made their names off of Floyd. Cotto surely didn't make a name for himself beating up great fighters, neither did Margarito. They're known alright, known bums.
WTF is you on bro? Cotto has beaten Mosley, clottey, and Judah.... you callin them c fighters man??????
Sorry sir, you are under arrest for having a retarded opinion :cop:
This is a fight i've wanted to see for 2 years now
still want to see it?? haha....
Cant wait.this will be a chess match and a damn good 1 at that.What outcomes do you guys predict
damn good chess match... who nailed the prediction of dawson tko via tackle...
dont watch it then...
looks like i made the right choice haha....
I think this fight could easily turn into something pretty boring. Depends which BHop shows up.
you got that right....
It will be close, it will be ugly, and Dawson is winning this fight closely but clearly.
thats an understatement...
Who knows Pirog outside of wherever he comes from?? He is literally unknown in the US or anywhere outside where he is from. Plus he is not a big name, he hasn't done anything significant for a fight with Sergio to make sense. It doesn't.
If he beats Pirog, who will care? Who will care about that name on his resume.. compared to known respected names like Pacquiaos, Mayweathers or Cottos? Names that look good on your resume, names that help your legacy.
apparently sergio is out for the money and he was offered a career high payday to fight pirog and turned it down for barker
The "9 Pound Theory"
The 9 Pound Theory is a theory that in order to beat Mayweather you have to be bigger than Him, and at least outweigh him by 9 pounds.
CONTEXT BEHIND THE "9 POUND THEORY"
• The Problem has NEVER and will EVER be the size of Mayweather.
• The so called Problem will always be the size of the opponent
.
The Popular belief in boxing about Mayweather is.
HIS opponents needs to bigger than him to have any kind of chance to beat Mayweather. ( ex. Castillo)
• NOT SMALLER
• NOT THE SAME SIZE
• NOT ALITTLE BIT BIGGER
• BUT A GOOD AMOUNT BIGGER.
So the "9 Pound Theory" can go in effect.
Why does the opponent needs to be bigger than Mayweather to beat Mayweather some might ask?
1. The opponents needs to be able withstand Mayweather Power as they tired to bull rush Mayweather.. Because nobody in their right mind is going to try and boxed Mayweather AND WIN.
So the only Strategy some people in boxing see that can be successful against Mayweather is to Pressure Floyd, and smuther him.
BUT if that is the only stragey to beat Mayweather.
Than obviously a smaller fighter can not do that without getting knockout.
1. Jesus Chavez tryed and failed (TKO)
2. Phillip N'dou tryed and failed (TKO)
3. Henry Bruseles tryed and failed (TKO)
4. Arturo Gatti tryed and failed (TKO)
5. Ricky Hatton tryed and failed (TKO)
And Many People believe Marquez will tryed and Failed
As you see...Critics do not want to see Mayweather fight soembody his size or Smaller in which the opponent does not have the physical assests to Effectively pressure Mayweather and withstand Mayweather Punches.
Jose Luis Castillo WEIGH 149 in a lightweight fight against Mayweather.
when Mayweather weigh 140.
Mayweather has to be at a Physical Weigh Disadvantage
in order for it to seem like Mayweather has a bigger chance to Lose.
Are you saying though that critics think a fighter needs to weigh "9" pounds more then mayweather so they can effectively use a bull rushing style to beat him?
no, but im shure you think so. judging from this thread you are probably a ultra-nationalist that never respects european or foreign fighters.
no i just think America produces the best fighters
I am arguing that critics argue
The opponent’s needs to be able withstand Mayweather Power as they tired to bull rush Mayweather... Because nobody in their right mind is going to try and boxed Mayweather AND WIN.
So the only Strategy some people in boxing see that can be successful against Mayweather is to Pressure Floyd, and smothers him.
The Problem has NEVER and will EVER be the size of Mayweather.
The so called Problem will always be the size of the opponent
The Popular belief in boxing about Mayweather is.
HIS opponents needs to bigger than him to have any kind of chance to beat Mayweather. (Ex. Castillo)
• NOT SMALLER
• NOT THE SAME SIZE
• NOT ALITTLE BIT BIGGER
• BUT A GOOD AMOUNT BIGGER.
So the "9 Pound Theory" can go in effect.
So the 9 lb theory = critics believe the best chance a fighter has to beat mayweather is the fighter weighs much more then may, and has a great pressure strategy.
I dont know why you had to make an article out of that to confuse everyone when you could have summed it all up in one sentence
I feel when someone is fighting floyd they try and use as many things as they can to their advantage whether it be weight, referee, ring size, or gloves. Not necessarily that people believe they can only beat floyd if they weigh 9 pounds more then them.
I got a little lost in the theory though
i agree 100% the athletes in the NFL and NBA are absolutely insane, I mean 235 pound men who are 7% body fat and can run a 40 yard dash in 4.4 seconds is nuts.
That kind of talent could definitely translate into boxing but boxing will never be a first choice for american stand out athletes.
typical ultra-nationalist xenophobic american... just because you produce the best fighters doesn't mean all fighters from other nations are bums.
did i say all fighters from other nations are bums?
Taylor needs a big win to bounce back... I think he should fight Kessler just to expose him, thats if kessler's people are man enough to take a little bit of risk
People saying Bradley unanimously swept the last 3 rounds? I gave Bradley one of them out of pity because he somewhat came alive but he did not outright win them all...
Compubox for the last 3 rounds:
Pac Bradley
Round 10 15/54 14/64
Round 11 21/66 15/76
Round 12 20/68 15/88
Pac outlanded Bradley in 10 of the 12 rounds. I also had Pac winning every round up to round 9 except the 2nd (and I could see giving Bradley the 1st as not much happened).
But my god Bradley got his ass beat all night and did nothing to Pac
Compubox is a waste of time.
Regardless Bradley did nothing those last 3 rounds except look somewhat alive and throw punches.
God what pisses me off the most is that a guy who did so little damage and was so clearly outclassed can still be called a winner. This is why you should NEVER let it go to the scorecards