Alright Eddie, you're talk bollocks again.
I expect him to make another crap offer, blame it on Frampton again and go elsewhere. If it gets made, Frampton dominates him.
I'm not sure which way the fight goes - before saturday night I thought Frampton but seeing how he struggled with a tall 22-year-old and the height/reach advantage Quigg has, I'm not so sure.
One thing I am sure of though is that neither fighter will get "dominated".
I doubt he meant Briggs who was caught and isn't on top, it's much more likely he was alluding to Klitschko who nearly 40 has an excellent physique and who beat Thompson twice (everyone loves an excuse, right?).
We hear this all the time from people who lose fights or don't have the discipline to stay in shape. It's easier than believing the other guy is a better boxer.
Klitschko got the money to beat the tests doe :dunce: as if Berto, Rios, Jones Jr, Salido etc didn't have money.
Have you actually managed to kid yourself that Klitschko is clean, despite the well documented history of high-level Soviet doping regimes?
Quite cute really.
Collazo - came off a massive KO win of Ortiz and has never been handled the way Khan handled him. This was a top win.
Alexander - Recent world champion, who again was never dominated so thoroughly as Khan did.
Algieri - Beat so called 'beast' Provodnikov and came off a 12rd UD loss against P4P #2 fighter Pacquiao.
Yep, nothing of note.. F*ck off.
Collazo - beat a washed up quitter in Ortiz.
Alexander - mauled by Porter, that B-level guy that Brook fought.
Algieri - dropped 8 or 9 times across 2 fights with Pacquiao and Provodnikov including a 120-102 defeat to Pacquiao.
As I said, nothing of note.
Bull****. Height is no indicator at what you should be fighting at. There are middleweight who are 6 foot 2 and there were heavyweights who are 6 foot 0 or even lower who never could fight at cruiserweight.
Are you familiar with the concept of fat-free BMI? Do some reading on the maximum value attainable in natural bodybuilders, then ask yourself whether boxing training is as anabolic as bodybuilding training. Follow that up with some number crunching using approximate body fat percentages for some top heavyweights. You'll soon see that the likes of Klitschko, Joshua, Tyson, Povetkin, Evan Fields... sorry Evander Holyfield are extremely questionable.
To say that height has no general bearing on natural weight is farcical.
PS any heavyweight less than 6 feet tall who isn't obese is on steroids.
Because he's gunning for Floyd Mayweather if you haven't caught on. :thinking:
He's been gunning for Floyd Mayweather for 2 years based on wins 5 years ago at a lower weight prior to a brutal knockout loss to Garcia. That hasn't been avenged, I might add.
Not denying Khan's career opponents were better. At all. Far above Brook's.
But what has he done since getting destroyed by Garcia that's better than Brook? Nothing.
But Senchenko was a recent champ? That's a fact. He was as much a champ as Alexander was.
Also, Khan's winning resume is vastly overrated. Take away Maidana which was an excellent win - and you're stuck with a lot of average guys. Some of which were over the hill.
Khan fanboys actually include Peterson and Garcia on his 'resume'. Brutal knockout defeats don't count in the real world.
Because its very easy to avenge a defeat when you're both in different weight divisions, aren't you. That was on Garcia to move up, and three years on from his win over Khan, he's only moving up now.
Khan moved up because he always blames his knockout defeats on being weight-drained as he did with Prescott, another brutal knockout defeat he hasn't avenged.
As for Garcia, why does he have any obligation to chase I guy he brutalised up in weight for a rematch?!
The guy practically mooched off of Khan ffs. :lol1:
Even way back in 2011 he couldn't keep a LWW Khan's name out of his mouth. Remember, Brook is known outside of home soil because his name is attached with Khans'. Fact!
Also because he beat an undefeated Porter and is world champion.
GGG isn't the biggest fish. In his weight range, let's say 54-68, he has by far te weakest resume among the top names and fighters. Ward, Froch, Cotto, Canelo, and to an extent Lara are all more accomplished. Plus financially, Cotto-Nelo is a bigger fight than GGG against either.
His weight is 160 not 168. Cotto and Canelo both fight at 160 albeit as catchweight kings. Cotto and Canelo have no better resume at 160 than GGG but it's all irrelevant anyway - how can you say someone has a poor resume when every elite fighter at his weight is petrified of fighting him?!
Interestingly in hindsight Bernard Hopkins was still in his elongated prime when Joe Calzaghe beat him and I think that becomes a better win than Hatton
Since Joe is also undefeated and has a better defining win than Floyd this could be a real down to the wire TBE decision
Clearly a troll but Calzaghe actually has a very underrated resume. Prime Kessler, Jeff '168lb Mike Tyson' Lacy, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Sheika (post Johnson victory) and Jones in New York to finish.
I'm going by The Ring Magazine rankings.
Froch has beaten;
Taylor #5
Abraham #5
Bute #1
Kessler #2
Groves #5
Bika wasn't even top 10 when he fought Calzaghe, by the way.
Can you give me a source for those rankings? Also, can you specify whether they're peak rankings, rankings at the time of the fight or current rankings? Otherwise, spewing out numbers is meaningless. Either way, if you're telling me Froch has beaten 5 'top 5' fighters and Calzaghe has beaten at least 3, it's hardly conclusive 'resume-wise'.
Eubank at one time or another will have been top 5 also.
Brook's a good fighter but we all know Khan's right - Brook only has ONE decent name on his whole resume against Porter, and we all know Porter's B-level at best.
Khan's resume is literally 10 times better than Brooks at this point. Its no question, no debate really. Or as Floyd Sr would say ain't no diggidy and no doubt. Anyone who tries to argue that Brook's resume is somehow better is trolling plain and simple, just ignore them.
Brook's resume at 147 is superior.
Here is how it all went down with Cotto. He is not being honorable. Back in October GGG made the fight with Rubio to be the mandatory for the opportunity that Cotto got from the WBC to fight Martinez. When Cotto made that deal with the WBC he understood that after one optional fight, he then had to fight the winner of Rubio/Golovkin sometime this year. Cotto made that deal with the WBC in order to get the opportunity against Martinez. Or else Martinez would have probably fought somebody else or fought Golovkin. Now that Cotto has to live up to that arrangement he is not being honorable. He is backing out because he is being a diva. He fights Geale and doesn’t fight the winner of Golovkin/Rubio. So what does that say about Cotto’s word.
It says that Cotto is already having flashbacks of Margarito I except this time it's infinitely more brutal and ends in barbaric, one-sided fashion.
Well he's not lying. From 140-154 he's fought the best. Anything he does now is gravy.
Correct - he fought the best at 147 and got stopped. He fought the best at 154 and got outboxed. He's now claiming to be the 160 champion whilst fighting at 153 and blocking fights with genuine middleweights, at middleweight.
This is all academic as Canelo will beat Cotto but is there a single person who actually believes Cotto, the 'lineal middleweight champion', won't get knocked out by GGG at 160?
If so, please speak up.
No, he's not "disrespecting" the middleweight division. Either way, I'm getting a great fight in November. A lot better than that sh*tty PPV a few weeks ago. Cry on.
So forcing genuine contenders to come down from their natural weight to fight for a 160lb title is acceptable to you? Cotto has done plenty 154 and below but his 160 'reign' is a mirage, and not a very good one.
And the Golovkin PPV was actually better than most in terms of entertainment.
Well if it is as reported "low concentrations", i am in the corner he took it most certainly before those dates that have been listed.
Please explain how there was no trace in his system on April 8, April 9 or April 11 but it appeared in his system on April 27. I'm struggling here.
Cotto can box and i think Canelo doesnt fight 3 minutes of every round.. i just dont know if Cotto and his face can take too much punishment.. he can outbox canelo and maybe squeak out a decision if he can make it to the final bell.. i always do talk some solace.. yea im a cotto fan.. lol.. that cottos little brother rocked and hurt canelo a few years ago.. so you never know.
Yeah, although Cotto doesn't have an amazing workrate, it's probably still better than Canelo. I think it's a close one but I wouldn't read too much into Canelo 5 or however many years ago. He was rocked by Cotto's little brother but he was also in his teens fighting at 147.
At the start Fury was jabbing plenty and looking to box in that fight, but it was a lot harder when he wasn't facing a short, one-dimensional plodder like Hammer or Chisora. Fury hasn't beaten one remotely decent HW over 6'3" and while Wlad obviously hasn't defeated someone exactly like Fury he's fought a much wider range of styles and abilities, including some bigger contenders like prime McCline. Fury has also been kept away from fighters with power, and his trips to the canvas against light hitters like Pajkic and USS might show why.
The height difference between Fury and Wlad isn't much anyway, as is very clear in the recent pictures where Fury isn't standing on his toes like he was for their pic with Lee and Steward....not a 3 inch difference at all.
Cunningham might be more skilled than Chisora but I'd still say Fury had a completely different approach back then to how he does now.
The height difference doesn't look too much because it isn#t much - 3 inches in height isn't anything major.
why would he?
If someone trains under supervision 8-10 times a week and had a dietician to tell them what food to eat, why would he not be in that shape?
some boxers have a lot of visible body fat as they dont train/ eat properly
You can train under supervision all you want. A good diet gets you lean, it doesn't add 20-30 pounds of lean muscle. His lean BMI is higher than anything naturally obtainable. Let me know if you want to read some of the studies to back that up.
He didn't clearly lose to Kessler, he lost a close decision that could've gone either way. I'd also argue that it was a more prime Kessler than the green version that Joe fought in Wales.
Lacy was hyped up to the max by the yanks, who was his best win before he faced Calzaghe? A shot Robin Reid? At least Bute had some solid wins behind him like Bika & Johnson.
I won't bother responding to your truly laughable assertion that Kessler was green - Dirk Diggler has done that for me.
As for Lacy's best win prior to fighting Calzaghe, you'd probably say Sheika - you know, that fighter who beat Bute's really credible opponent, Glen Johnson in a final eliminator to face Calzaghe? So on another note, why is Calzaghe not given credit for dismantling Sheika, if Sheika beat Johnson in a final eliminator beforehand?
The Big Problem with Abel he was never boxer. He does not understands level of opponents. He thinks David is Stevens.
He also thought Mohamedi had chances against Kovalev. He never boxed himself. He does not know boxing tricks. Golovkin level is the same it was when he turned pro.
But Abel likes to talk a lot though.
I'd say Lemieux-Stevens would be a pretty competitive fight - certainly not 'levels apart'.
I dont like this stupid kind of ring. Ropes and the shape of a normal ring are very important.
Important to what? This isn't classed as a professional boxing.
Believe me, Joshua has nothing to fear from the plodding Helenius.
I won't be surprised if Rill beats Helenius on Saturday, although I favor Helenius to win that one.
Finally someone with a pair of eyes.
Yeah, I agree Joshua is on the juice.
I am sceptical as to whether it will get him to the top though.
I do see him losing to Fury.
He could get a different belt perhaps.
the only way to beat AJ is to put him out of range, which Fury or Wilder could potentially do. If you spend time in range, he'll blast straight through you whether you have skills or not.
cotto was off for a year he used 1 of ggg best guys on his resume as a tune up shows you what fighters they hype up for ggg. bigger fish to fry for cotto like canelo
A tune up in which he drained the guy down to 157 to fight for his 160lb title? Every Golovkin fight is a 'tune up' as no champion will fight him. Miguel gets beaten down in a more barbaric fashion than Margarito I.
70 nanograns is almost assuredly within the margin of error for any testing. It's way below WADA's own threshold for a definitive positive. That's WADA's standard, Lou Dibella is free to invent his own version.
I'd say it's more indicative of microdosing
Povetkin is a Sauerland fighter, they do Olympic style tests yearly. The only who hasn't been testing recently is Wilder.
Anyone who believes testing in boxing is even remotely close to being sufficient is completely out of touch with reality.
As bad as Shannon Briggs is as an opponent. He is par maybe slightly less with what Wilder has been fighting lately.
I think getting him drug tested properly is the right move. Even though I think Wilder would spark him even if he is dirty, I think its in boxings best interest to weed out the PED cheats and if Briggs is dirty then he doesn't deserve the payday he would get.
If you weeded out the PED cheats in boxing, there wouldn't be much left. Drug tests now are completely irrelevant anyway - 5 weeks out?
Briggs has clearly been juicing for years and could cycle off for a few weeks, pass a test and still get tremendous benefits.
The standards for Floyd greatness is substantially lower than that of other fighters. He doesn't have to fight prime opponents he just has to beat them. He left welterweight while everyone beat each other to death and came back to pick up the scraps.
Everyone know Manny wasn't the same after fighting Margarito and taking body shots from a much larger opponent, who Floyd also ducked.
Manny had to fight prime fighters though 8 division, is considered FOTD, universally recognized 3x fighter of the year, has beaten the most world champions in the history of the sport, and has 70 pro fights. But still some idiots believes Floyd compares.
A gift decision over a smaller man doesn't make you better, lol.
He fought Cotto way too late to be considered a great win and Canelo was Canelo.
Your numbers simply put, aren't correct.
You can pick holes in opponents all you want but the same applies to every fighter in histpry. For Pacquiao, you could say De La Hoya, Mosley and Hatton were Floyds leftovers (just as you could spin it the other way round for Cotto).
Was Mosley washed up for Pac? Was Margarito washed up? Was De La Hoya washed up and weight drained? Was Cotto weight drained? Was Hatton washed up? Was Clottey coming off a loss? Was Rios coming off a loss? Did Bradley outpoint him? Did Marquez beat Pacquiao three times and then knock him clean out?
I'm not discrediting these wins - all I'm saying is you can clutch at straws and discredit more or less every victory on a fighters record if you dig deep enough. At the end of the day, Floyd beat pretty much every hall of famer in his era whether you deem some to be washed up or not and he'll undoubtedly go down as the best fighter of his era, certainly the best fighter of this century so far.