OK. Answer this, where was your crusade when Manny refused testing?? Don't worry I will wait.
You mean, "when Manny refused RANDOM testing" at the behest of noncommissioned agents of jealous boxers. Answer: Why bend to the riff raff when you are the king? Doping produces visible results. Pac does not exhibit that in any way. I don't know of anytime that Pac refused a commission demand. Now go back to your MAD magazine and hiding your cigarettes from mommy and let us do the blogging.
yet you same p@ctared fucks repeated "let the commission do their jobs" when Manny was refusing testing...blame him and his damn team all they had to do is accept random testing when Jmm asked for it and we would have no issues..but NOOOOO he gave 1 million excuses not to do extra testing..JMM has NEVER rejected extra testing
The problem with your analysis is the fact that Manny doesn't show signs of doping. Moving up in weight and winning is not evidence of anything but talent. Ask Floyd. JMM on the other hand is ready to burst open. That poor guy is gonna die early because of the pressure he bowed down to in order to finally beat PacMan.
Jesus christ you have been whining and crying all over the NSB. I am surprised you haven't been banned. You trued to hide it for a while but your pac tard ness came flowing out.
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ROFL. Bro, I aint no "tard" for any boxer except maybe Kostya Tszyu and Roberto Duran. After that...its about the sport of boxing. And doping combined with big money is screwing it up.
I've known quite a few PED using athletes who've tested clean and very few of them ever got caught. Don't be so naive.
I don't think that PEDs gave Marquez the win (that was due to Pac being reckless) but thinking there's no way he could be using is ignorant. It's always a possibility.
The typical visual indicators seem to be present. Balding is common, but also genetic, so that's a wash. But the bulk up, striation, and veins, are worrisome. One question I have is purely academic: Can juice give you a better chin?
Well there is a legitimate concern/suspicion
remember that this guy would eat/drink anything including his own piss.
couple that with working with a known PED supplier, you know people are gonna ask questions. Am i accusing JMM of anything? absolutely not he is a great fighter and would have beaten manny without PEDs but is there a legitimate reason to be suspicious? absolutely.
if people can accuse and assume manny is doping because he refused a test, then people can also accuse and assume JMM is doping because he works with a known PED supplier and actually visibly became bulked the within the year's span
that's how i see it
A fair assessment. I would hasten to add that JMM was under alot of pressure to win for nationalistic reasons and the decisions against him in the past could have fueled him to step over the line. Yeah, I think he probably cheated. It's a shame because I don't believe Mannie is juicer.
i belive he did juice up but dont have proof
Will you believe your lying eyes? This not rocket science. A test confirmation is only needed to go legal. Any trained eye can see roids at work.
Why would Mannie agree when he is clean? It's obvious to the eye he is clean. No cranial bone mass increase, no new striation, no insta veins. These are all visible items of evidence on JMM. All you can say is Manny moved up in weight and still won. Whoo! Guess you can convict Mayweather then. The fact is that Pac and Floyd did that because of talent and talent alone. Although in Floyd's case, a program of cherry picking and dodging was employed. Get a life, dude! All you and your ilk is doing is promoting doping.
Let us get this right, in your point of view by what you just said; pacquiao "the king" shouldn't have to subjugate himself to Random Testing because fighters/promoters/mangers should have o bend to his wants. Yet when your "King" constantly refuses random blood tests, that shows something to hide. Your lack of knowledge and bias toward a guy who beat your favorite boxer, which is now can be seen had no PEDs in his system prior or after the fight.
What I said was that he has no obligation or incentive to comply to the demands of idiots. Do that, and every blowhard in the pen will start making demands. I cannot think of one time that Pac has ever refused an officially sanctioned demand for testing.
JMM is the man right now, and it's sad to see fans and even hbo trying to discredit his victory. Not only has JMM never failed a drug test, but he was always willing to submit to osdt just so long as his opponent would too.
Cool story bro. But getting back to the real world, Paquiao is medically ok after the concussion, JMM is cycling back down to prevent further heart damage, and the Philipino nation has recalled its navy of PT boats from their strafing run of the Mexican coast. It seems the nation is gradually returning to their national pasttime...blogging. See the wonders that take place after the truth comes out?
Oh no. The nazis will not stop this issue from appearing. JMM was a great boxer. But, he was never on Pac's level. Look at JMM 8 years ago and look at him now. NUFF SAID.
Still better then a country like Mexico that is ruled by drug cartels, a country where their own military is powerless to stop the criminals.
That may be a bit of a stretch. It has its problems, but Mexico is a fabulous country with great people and culture.
But, the Philipino nation deserves to have a very merry Christmas. The honesty and integrity of your hero has not gone unnoticed in certain quarters.
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Because I administer it and I know how it changes the body. I know how it makes the body look.
3 or 4 iu's a week will do wonders for the regular gym rat. Wonders. In just one month the clients usually increase12-17 percent strength gains in major lifts. That's huge gains just from a base element in a stack.
An iu is short for insulin unit. A syringe basically.
The sport industry is basically stacking EPO, with growth hormone and testosterone. Then to pass the test they supplement the body with some estrogen. That way the testosterone/estrogen ratio stays at 4:1.
There isn't a 'high testosterone' test. They test for the ratio between testosterone and estrogen, that's how they tell if its positive or not. They do have a synthetic testosterone test, but the pros use now. The (r) stands for recombinant. Meaning the testosterone is artifically create from the actual client themselves in a lab. This is relatively cheap to due.
The cheats are getting smart. And a lab is a lab. If you got money the sevices are there.
You guys are welcome. I'm not charging you for the chem lessons.
No need to re-post this...but I AM!
Boys, its time to come to your senses. If your only remaining argument is, "well...pac did it too", then you are avoiding the issue. The fact is that PED therapy gives visual evidence. Pac doesn't exhibit this evidence. JMM does. It is what it is.
But in any event, the issue is bigger than just one fight. This is about the sport.
philippines just got hit with a serious storm and lots of people have died in bataan, philippines.
pacquiao just donated 10 million to the victims right when he came back last wednesday. a lot of bodies aren't found still. even the evacuation center that occupied people got hit and those people were buried underground.
we know that you don't like pacquiao, and that's all good. but dont bring entire filipinos in your agenda.
What is this nonsense? Pacquiao is my favorite boxer in the world because he's the best, he is classy, and he is clean.
Well, the Filipinos are too busy with a typhoon.
LOL at some you guys. Even with the KO lost of Pac, he is still a thorn to you guys.
This thread still interested in how the Philipinos are doing after the juicing.
lol @ pathetic Marquez fans using the argument of "well Pacquiao juiced as well!"
Pac is the one who is aging properly as a fighter with his style. Yet Marquez the guy who needs reflexes with speed and hand eye coordination is only improving in those areas while pusing 40, just like his chin and power.
Obviously Pac didn't juice or he would have won. And, his chin was definitely not juiced. Pac didn't visibly show signs of juicing.
On the other hand, JMM looked like a late stage Gatti.
Its not hard to see the obvious.
I don't mean to discredit JMM because his win was important for Mexican morale. But, if the fight is used to advance the argument that he is anywhere in Pac's league as a boxer, then that argument is hereby smashed into a thousand pieces.
Pac was noticeably bigger a year or so back. He's not nearly as toned as he used to be.
Thank you for proving my point. It's good to have a friend that cares about boxers.
Since he can keep his health now? Seems like Pacquiao was like the flu virus and now since it has been tranquilized fans can breathe easy. Now you will not have to take time out of your busy trolling schedule to make it to Floyd's checkups. Alot of fans were to happy Pac got dropped, reminded me of how some people acted when OJ was found not guilty
LOL! classic
Are these guy for real?
I just started posting recently, I've never been one to actually get into blogging or anything.
These 2 guys seem to be pacquiao haters ... or as bloggers call them trolls, right?
After researching their posts they also seem to be holding mayweathers nutts and cheese for him.
Just enjoy the sport guys, and take a chill pill
Yes Banger, you are right. They belong to a now rather marginalized group. A few years ago they ruled with their propaganda. But, now, after the truth has set in, they are just the bitter remnants of a lost dream. Pity them, but give them no quarter.
LOL
I think it's better if you just STFU..cause clearly you don't know what ur talking about.
'near to God"..hahahaha
Do you know that if you rock a Pac T-shirt in the Philippines, you are consider "uncool" (baduy).
yes, Pac is the most loved athlete ever in the Philippines..a national hero.that's about it.
He's no God, or Elvis, or Bruce lee . or the next president of the Philippines. lol
Wait. To Philipinos, Manny is without a doubt, bigger than Elvis and Bruce Lee. You are right about God. But, I never said he was God, I just said he is near to God in the eyes of the Philipino nation. And, I am right about that too.
oh i do believe it but like i said i dont have proof altho there are circumstancial evidences.and memo is one shdy mofo, was'nt surprised jmm passed the test and will in the future no matter what unless VADA is involved
Nuff said. Good post dances. danceswithfire hit the nail on the head here.
Pacquiao should've cashed out against Floyd. I'm not saying that Pac was on something while at his best, but his style of fighting isn't a style that ages with time like fine wine. Floyd's styles ages like fine wine. Pac, Roy..these guys lacked a conventional style which is why they crash landed.
Frank, I was just starting to like ya...then you went and wrote this. Your ignorance of boxing has now been illustrated to the world. lol
you know what a nazi was? it isn't another word word someone that doesn't agree with you
Well. I got an idea of the historical meaning of the word. But in this context, I'm sure you'll allow some artistic license. To be precise, I would intend that the word "nazi" to represent someone that presents a programatic and automatically biased opinion to anybody that stands in their way. Sorry for the confusion. Now, back to your books. School tommorrow.
You think they're gonna ban me for doing the right thing?! You defend the markateers and promoters against the dam fighters? Are you kidding? This is not simply about Pacman losing to the Juice, this is about lives and money.
Grow a brain and some testicular fortitude or quit following boxing and go play with dolls.
Can we hear from the Filipinos on this please? No Mexican warriors are allowed to post here. Mexico has its revenge after a decade of humiliation. Let's hear from the native Paq fans.
... well frank I only have a degree in sports medicine from university of boston and a physicians license.
I'm also a licensed personal trainer/rehabilitator
... I guess what one person classifies as professional doesn't/can't always meet everyone's criteria.
I have 9 years of schooling and on the job internship with some of the best in the industry.
Frank, can I ask you how much longer I would need to be classified as a professional? Please, do tell.
Do I need to re-post this? No...but I AM!
(Frank, give it up...its over...save yourself from more embarrassment...go back to plugging Floyd)
So Mr. CONTE, you can tell body fat % and shaving 60% percent of this and that by t.v. AMAZING!!!!
Actually, if you knew anything about the current state of boxing, then you would know that PED is easily spotted to the trained eye. It's just that in order to make it legal, it must be confirmed by testing. This has become the great game and alot of money depends upon winning this game.
Now go back to your MAD magazine and leave the real blogging to us.