They did their jobs and Marquez passed the tests just like Manny so why are retards on here accusing him of juicing??Juan has offered to do extra testing..even last year he offed to fight Manny as long as random testing was done..Mannys team refused and instead fought Mosley..who they asked to do extra testing and he said ok as long as Manny gets tested as well and all the sudden they said nevermind...Now this time around he offers to do extra testing only to have Arum turn it down...so why are all these fingers being pointed at Jmm??don't say cause he works with Memo cause Ariza use to work under Memo as well
Remember, bacne proves Marquez is guilty. Then Pac shows up covered in bacne on May 2nd.
It was chest acne dumbo. But bacne does suggest some chemicals considering Pacquiao's never had them before, or atleast I've never noticed.
You are sorely mistaken. I'm talking about the negotiations in TOTALITY. AGAIN, the MOST conciliatory offer put forth by Floyd was a 50-50 split along with a 2 week cutoff for the testing. MANNY DID NOT AGREE WITH THIS OFFER. TO REPEAT, MANNY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THIS OFFER!
Yes, Floyd has been stubbornly steadfast on the issue of purse split, but again he was willing to compromise on that as well with that offer I described above. AGAIN, MANNY DIDN'T TAKE IT!
The devil is in the details. Conte has gone on record stating that substances such as EPO cycle out of the body within a MERE 3 DAYS! FULL, RANDOM testing has a better chance of preventing usage of such substances than commission testing or testing WITH CUTOFF DATES.
Murder :boxing:
In an interview, Arum said we will need to find out what the doctors says about the cut. You Floyd fans turned that into Arum said no fight.
Yeah I also remember Fat Dan ask Arum if they where going to pursue a fight with Mayweather and he simply said that "they weren't really interested". So which lie do you want to believe the one where he tells you what you want to hear in the interview or the one where Fat Dan simply asked him about the Mayweather fight and he said they are not interested? Pick your poison dude
Perhaps there is confusion here. You are discussing negotiations #1. I'm discussing all negotiations that they had. About a year ago Floyd's team agreed that drugs are no longer an issue ... but we found out that the new issue was money.
Still, Larry didn't bring up all that. So not sure why you are even bringing it up. ........ in ALL negotiations, Manny was willing to go beyond what was required by the commissions. So for this discussion, it doesn't matter what the particulars were just that Manny was OK with going beyond what the current rules stated.
You are sorely mistaken. I'm talking about the negotiations in TOTALITY. AGAIN, the MOST conciliatory offer put forth by Floyd was a 50-50 split along with a 2 week cutoff for the testing. MANNY DID NOT AGREE WITH THIS OFFER. TO REPEAT, MANNY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THIS OFFER!
Yes, Floyd has been stubbornly steadfast on the issue of purse split, but again he was willing to compromise on that as well with that offer I described above. AGAIN, MANNY DIDN'T TAKE IT!
The devil is in the details. Conte has gone on record stating that substances such as EPO cycle out of the body within a MERE 3 DAYS! FULL, RANDOM testing has a better chance of preventing usage of such substances than commission testing or testing WITH CUTOFF DATES.
I can't deny this thought. 10 Mill penalty wasn't exactly standard commission rules.:lol1:
Give it up. Your idol got Pacquiao'd and is now making you idiots look stupid by them now making idiot fans like you support the idea of non commission testing when they had you idiots supporting it in the first place.:lol1:
and you think still think Manny has taken PEDs in the past, right?
No wrong,Arum was even mad Floyd called Manny and then came up with 100 excuse form a damn stadium to a cut healing..he said he would take the may date if manny was fighting Jmm then floyd called and all the sudden May was too soon..there was only a phone call no negotiation..none
Those were all myths that you Floyd fans made up and you strung them together and made them appear to be facts. Arum never said what you said.
In an interview, Arum said we will need to find out what the doctors says about the cut. You Floyd fans turned that into Arum said no fight.
Manny's official website stated that he was ready to give into drug testing and even the date if Floyd was OK with sharing the revenue. While Arum wanted a a bigger stadium so it would bring in more money, he also conceded that but told Floyd to get his own guarantees for his money. So for you guys, Arum wanting to generate more money was bad, Floyd saying "I want all PPV money" was good .... lol!
The point in all this was that Manny from day one agreed to do more than what was stated by the commissions and even here today, you guys making a big fuss and twisting words and can't even agree to that just because it shoots down what the TS said initially!
I see that you guys would rather give credit to a guy who kept on putting roadblocks .... lol!
Are you guys seriously getting into this again? What were they doing at the beginning of this year? There were discussions between both sides. Floyd and Manny even communicated on this. They were so far apart on money that there was no need to make anything formal.
Floyd said that drugs was no longer an issue. What, you don't believe your hero Floyd? lol!
No wrong,Arum was even mad Floyd called Manny and then came up with 100 excuse form a damn stadium to a cut healing..he said he would take the may date if manny was fighting Jmm then floyd called and all the sudden May was too soon..there was only a phone call no negotiation..none
there has only been 1 negotiation man..the rest never reached the table...even with that time clock sh1t they still wanted a cut off and Konz even clarrified that on the Margo 24-7
Are you guys seriously getting into this again? What were they doing at the beginning of this year? There were discussions between both sides. Floyd and Manny even communicated on this. They were so far apart on money that there was no need to make anything formal.
Floyd said that drugs was no longer an issue. What, you don't believe your hero Floyd? lol!
there has only been 1 negotiation man..the rest never reached the table...even with that time clock sh1t they still wanted a cut off and Konz even clarrified that on the Margo 24-7
Exactly!!!!
Perhaps there is confusion here. You are discussing negotiations #1. I'm discussing all negotiations that they had. About a year ago Floyd's team agreed that drugs are no longer an issue ... but we found out that the new issue was money.
Still, Larry didn't bring up all that. So not sure why you are even bringing it up. ........ in ALL negotiations, Manny was willing to go beyond what was required by the commissions. So for this discussion, it doesn't matter what the particulars were just that Manny was OK with going beyond what the current rules stated.
I can't deny this thought. 10 Mill penalty wasn't exactly standard commission rules.:lol1:
Give it up. Your idol got Pacquiao'd and is now making you idiots look stupid by them now making idiot fans like you support the idea of non commission testing when they had you idiots supporting it in the first place.:lol1:
Perhaps there is confusion here. You are discussing negotiations #1. I'm discussing all negotiations that they had. About a year ago Floyd's team agreed that drugs are no longer an issue ... but we found out that the new issue was money.
Still, Larry didn't bring up all that. So not sure why you are even bringing it up. ........ in ALL negotiations, Manny was willing to go beyond what was required by the commissions. So for this discussion, it doesn't matter what the particulars were just that Manny was OK with going beyond what the current rules stated.
there has only been 1 negotiation man..the rest never reached the table...even with that time clock sh1t they still wanted a cut off and Konz even clarrified that on the Margo 24-7
I'm sorry, but you are doing nothing but bringing up revisionist history. Manny never agreed to FULL, RANDOM testing, which was the final offer in the last round of FORMAL negotiations with Floyd and his team. Again, the most conciliatory offer for Manny was put on the table by Floyd FIRST. This offer consisted of a 50-50 split along with a 2 week cutoff. Manny failed to agree to these stipulations. In FORMAL business dealings, once an offer has been denied, it is AUTOMATICALLY VOIDED. The person who initially put out the offer is NOT BINDED to that offer in the future...
Pac NEVER, EVER agreed to full, random testing FORMALLY. Never mind these statements of posturing he has made in the media...
Well put. Can't get any clearer then this.:biggthump
I'm sorry, but you are doing nothing but bringing up revisionist history. Manny never agreed to FULL, RANDOM testing, which was the final offer in the last round of FORMAL negotiations with Floyd and his team. Again, the most conciliatory offer for Manny was put on the table by Floyd FIRST. This offer consisted of a 50-50 split along with a 2 week cutoff. Manny failed to agree to these stipulations. In FORMAL business dealings, once an offer has been denied, it is AUTOMATICALLY VOIDED. The person who initially put out the offer is NOT BINDED to that offer in the future...
Pac NEVER, EVER agreed to full, random testing FORMALLY. Never mind these statements of posturing he has made in the media...
Perhaps there is confusion here. You are discussing negotiations #1. I'm discussing all negotiations that they had. About a year ago Floyd's team agreed that drugs are no longer an issue ... but we found out that the new issue was money.
Still, Larry didn't bring up all that. So not sure why you are even bringing it up. ........ in ALL negotiations, Manny was willing to go beyond what was required by the commissions. So for this discussion, it doesn't matter what the particulars were just that Manny was OK with going beyond what the current rules stated.