I thought it was still illegal, but I know Frazier wore one on one eye for Manilla.
Idk, I guess it doesn't matter..
I rather be nearsigheted as a boxer than farsighted because you are so close anyway.
overrated??? give me a couple fighters at Floyd's weight right now that have fought opposition like Floyd has and have a similar record to Floyd. We keep saying he is so overrated but who is better at his weight? And why are they better? I also feel that sometimes we let older boxers get blown out of proportion, I'm not saying that Floyd is an all-time great yet, but I think sometimes we let legends grow too much.
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Cotto fought Ricardo Torres..
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Ricardo Torres> than anyone not name Castillo that PBF fought.
Mayweather could do great things if he goes back and fights the legitimate guys at weights such as Hatton. What harms him in my view is that he seems to stay away from the physical fighters ever since he fought Castillo. That pattern to me is an overwhelming indication that he doesn't want to be in that kind of fight. Mayweather has opened himself up to criticism by not fighting Hatton at light welterweight and thinking it was good enough to do in a faded Gatti. You might say that Mayweather iss till only a two weight world champion because the WBC version at 140 was bullshit, stripped from Tszyu, the welterweight title was illegitimate at 147 because Judah did not deserve to keep it after Baldomir. Even if PBF defeats ODLH for the WBC 154 title that's bullshit because that title was never lost by Winky Wright.
Very good post.
At least once in Floyd's boxing career he is going to have to get into a slugfest. I think a guy like Cotto would present a lot of trouble for Floyd. Bigger stronger guy will give Floyd problems.
Castillo fan, he tried to fight Cotto and Hatton at 140, they turned him down, this isnt new. They wanted no parts of him especially after he demolished gatti in front of their faces. They've been turning him down, what is he supposed to do, not fight?
Hatton needs to fight at least once more in america before he fights Floyd in order to get a fair pay in the fight IMO.
Cotto is still raw. His first really big fight can't be against Floyd. Let him beat Malginaggi first.
To be honest I want to see Floyd fight that guy who Cotto beat last year. Ricardo Torres was his name. What a punch that guy had, if he gets some better training he can be a star.
i had it 116-112 for toney
toney landed the better punches easy and was more accurate
he controlled the fight
he made rahman keep coming to him and made rahman play into his hands
toney won dude
How did Toney win? How? He didn't hurt Rahman AT ALL in this fight..
Rahman was the obvious aggressor.. The only time Toney did anything remote is when he sat his fat ass on the ropes... The guy couldn't even stand straight..
funny how this rahman who "chased vitali into retirement" can hardly get a clean decision against a 5'9" blown up MW.
I agree Hasim should of knocked him out..
Don't cut him short though.. He won the fight..
It's Toney apologist who do this..
"James Toney is a tomato can, and always has been a tomato can as a HW..."-Tony Womack Fan
didnt do anything huh
well rock only out landed toney by like 17 punches
ya eh threw 300 more
but toney has def connecting
hardly a 118-110 fight
Hasim was just standing and jabbing him all night, he let Toney have every punch because he knew James couldn't hurt him.
what the hell does hurting this or that got to do with it
its effectiveness that counts and toney was the more effective guy
toney landed the better punches just look at the punch stats lol
93 jabs from rahman come on
and look at that accuracy from toney and he landed the bigger better shots the power punches
toney won easy and clearly
None of Toney's punches were effective.. NONE. Rahman was the aggressor. You don't judge a fight based on the numbers.
The first punch that Lacy lands flush....will literally take Manfredo's head off his shoulders.
I see this fight coming in fruition. I bet this is the first guy Lacy challenges.
That guy from the 'Contender'? Lol, Lacy would kill him.
Manfredo Jr can actually box. He has some skills. Lacy hasn't learned how to throw a combo or duck a punch yet.
Jeff Lacy is a bum
This guy is the most overhyped fighter I have ever seen. He fights like post Cus D'Amato Tyson; No skill, hit or miss style. Though at least Tyson had a shade of defense, this guy's idea of defense is sticking his gloves next to his face.
Lacy is also slow as a turtle. I was under the impression that he had above average hand speed.
I'm sorry, but i've seen Joe fight before. He never dominates the inside. He fought a bum today.
A bum that beat Robin Reid, Syd Vanderpool and Omar Sheika?
He got outboxed by the better fighter
Syd Vanderpool is a bum. Robin Reid is a shot fighter, and win over Sheika isn't anything to build your leagcy on.
Jeff is a great fighter, no question about that.
Tonight would of taken a lot out of him, but he can still bounce back and dominate at 168.
You can't change what he did to Vanderpool, Reid etc.
It's just that nobody expected Joe to be able to roll back the years like that.
He is finished IMO. Another; less talented, less marketable Fernando Vargas after the De La Hoya fight.
I'm playing the prejudice judges card. Hatton lost the fight
Three inexpierenced old white judges aren't going to give a spanish guy from brooklyn with tattoos all over his body a close decision.. Plain and simple..
Collazo was the champ.. He deserved the decision..
I have been talking down Hatton throughout my time here and I think it looks like I am right AS USUAL.
...was a complete disgrace. He had dancers in there during the national anthem, and had the music synthesized. He also told the crowd to "clap their hands" towards the end. It was a complete disgrace and was awful to watch. Anyone agree?
I watched this fight with 20 US Naval Officers.. think how they felt watching that..
The National Anthem should be a somber moment, where everyone in the crowd is silent; not a R&B show with everyone clapping..
I told them "hey its in Las Vegas"
Taylor had better pray to high heaven that he doesn't fight Winky or moves up in weight to avoid him. Winky will embarass Taylor by cruising to a UD by at least 4 points.
I think you're wrong.. Taylor will get the decision with Winky too.. Winky will fight Taylor a lot like Hopkins did, and Taylor's overall stregnth advantage will lead him to a victory; not because he will hurt Winky, but because his punches will look better, and get the judges to and the audience to give him rounds..
Bert Sugar is one of the best and most recognized boxing historians ever and i'm sure he knows more about boxing than any of you could even dream to know of.
Yea, but hes weird and annoying.
I put Rocky in the top 5, just because he ended his career undefeated. But noway he was as good as Louis. When rocky beat Louis, Louis was old & washed up. He came out of retirement to fight Rocky.
I realize that, but I don't understand why Louis was better. Rocky never lost a fight.
I also get annoyed that Sugar has a bias towards modern fighters.
He has no respect for Lennox, Tyson, Holyfield.
I also would put Sonny Liston over Ezzard Charles. I know Liston disgraced himself in '65, but he was still a very good fighter.
I do agree Bert Sugar is an idiot, but I have no problem if someone pics Louis over Ali, Top 2 HW of all time are Ali & Louis.
Rocky Marciano>Joe Louis
This is not true. :bsflag:
From the fights I saw Rocky was more dominant. Plus Rock beat Joe.
Marciano deserves to at least be in the top 3. People disrespect him because hes white.
You would have to be very generous to give Holyfield the second Lewis fight, to be honest myou have to be straight blind to give him the rematch. He is one of the greatest fighters ever, hes a living legend.
Idk I scored it 115-113 Holy