The guy hasn't beaten anyone that great.. Corrales, Castillio, Judah, old Gatti, Mitchell..
All of these guys had their moments, but none have been on the top pedestal consistently.
He ain't Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, or Tommy Hearns.
I'm not going to breakdown Floyd's flaws.. I'm not an expert, but he ain't perfect. He's had some close calls, and I wouldn't be shocked if Oscar beat him..
overrated??? give me a couple fighters at Floyd's weight right now that have fought opposition like Floyd has and have a similar record to Floyd. We keep saying he is so overrated but who is better at his weight? And why are they better? I also feel that sometimes we let older boxers get blown out of proportion, I'm not saying that Floyd is an all-time great yet, but I think sometimes we let legends grow too much.
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Cotto fought Ricardo Torres..
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Ricardo Torres> than anyone not name Castillo that PBF fought.
He has more skills then SRR, just like Leonard had more skills then Robinson. But Robinson is the greatest of all time.
PBF has been underrated for many years, now people are talking about his greatness. Only idiots with no knowledge of the sport will call PBF overrated.
sorry, i highly disaggree with you, some of his prime or a lot of it wasn't even captured at welterweight, more skills :rolleyes: less power
Obviously people do get a bit too hyped over PBF. He has the potential to be one of the greatest but at present he is living off the past imo. He really needs to fight the Hattons, Cottos, Oscars and Margaritos pronto.
overrated??? give me a couple fighters at Floyd's weight right now that have fought opposition like Floyd has and have a similar record to Floyd. We keep saying he is so overrated but who is better at his weight? And why are they better? I also feel that sometimes we let older boxers get blown out of proportion, I'm not saying that Floyd is an all-time great yet, but I think sometimes we let legends grow too much.
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responding to the bold letters.....you and others, are giving credit to what floyd has done in the past, when i judge floyd im basing it on the present. which is why he is being over-rated by some
overrated??? give me a couple fighters at Floyd's weight right now that have fought opposition like Floyd has and have a similar record to Floyd. We keep saying he is so overrated but who is better at his weight? And why are they better? I also feel that sometimes we let older boxers get blown out of proportion, I'm not saying that Floyd is an all-time great yet, but I think sometimes we let legends grow too much.
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he is definetly overrated to ur casual fan, but a lot of the hard core fans we got on this forumn rate him perfectly. I dont think its to early to call him great. He has beaten TONS of young talents in their primes, and has never looked bad in the ring.
I also think Mayweather has to fight more close and phisical fighters before we can call him a true great. Mayweather will never, EVER, be in a fight of the year at the rate he is going, until he fights margarito, Hatton, or Cotto.
I especially think the hatton fight at 140 would make People think differently of mayweather. If he could fight off one of the best inside fighters out there right now, even if he struggles or loses, then he could still be considered a great.
i dont think floyd is over rated, i think he should fight everyone though and revive the sport like he has the potential to do. rather than playing the cash game and pretending that he is a hip hop all star.
yea playa.....fucking with rap-a-lot and lil j is going to mess his head up like it did roy j....he got with rap-a-lot and fell slap the fuck off...
PBF needs to show the world that he's the real deal, but people brush off Judah too quickly, when he's bad, he's bad, but when he's focused he's no joke. when he faught Mayweather he was at the top of his game, I think that was a step in the right direction.
i dont think floyd is over rated, i think he should fight everyone though and revive the sport like he has the potential to do. rather than playing the cash game and pretending that he is a hip hop all star.
Very good post.
At least once in Floyd's boxing career he is going to have to get into a slugfest. I think a guy like Cotto would present a lot of trouble for Floyd. Bigger stronger guy will give Floyd problems.
Perhaps you should reserve judgement until after June 10. He's fighting someone similiar to Floyd's style so we'll see.
He is overrated because some people put him in the category of Leonard, Duran, Hearns now..before he's fought the A list competition. Saying he's best pfp now, that's a fair statement..saying if he retired now he was in the same class as Leonard, that's a ridiculous statement. Not until he's beaten, or at least fought the DLHs, Hattons, Cottos, Margaritos, Mosleys..until he beats some of these guys he is not a "great" fighter..he just has "potential" greatness.
Overrated? why are we even discussing this? Listen, Floyd Mayweather is the best BOXER in Boxing right now and thats just a fact! His 29yrsold, 36-0-24kos and has been virtually unstoppable his entire career!
Known for his speed, inpenatratable defense :D and pugilistic offensive skills, there are few if any boxers who stand a chance against him in the ring!
Haha DAMN,.... look at his resume,(close fights aside)Tony Pep(16)Angel Manfredy(18)Correlas, Chavez, JLC, N'dou, Corley, Gatti and Judah! Not to mention Augustus, Mitchell and Sosa! And still people question him, when will you learn, that things change and new GENERATIONS bring in NEW GOATS :D, FLoyd is that for this GEN! Its hard for me to understand why people root against the guy, when his basically beat ALL his opponents soundly and with a leveled attack, and claims not to bring his A game in any fights(HE CLAIMS IT, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN HIM REACHING, OFF-BALANCE TYSON LIKE)!
And still people doubt him, can you name a time youve seen him WOBBLED, STAGGERED or UNBALANCED? I didnt think so :D , now look at the top 5 LGT. Welters and Welters and ask the same thing! Believe it or not Floyd has power people 24 of the 36 opponents know that (86%)! And some more will find out, Floyds only weakness at this point is himself and depending on WHAT WEIGHT CLASSES HE CHOOSES TO FIGHT AT: HE CAN DOMINATE LGHTWEIGHT, LGTWELTER an WELTER, BUT will he and can he try to go higher then that! AS FOR HIM BEING OVERRATED WHERE DO YOU GET THIS FROM: OVERRATED IS SAYING SOME ONE LIKE hatton COULD BEAT FLOYD, FLOYD IS LIKE SOMEONE SAYIN mayweathers GONNA DEMOLISH HIS ENTIRE DIVISION! (ITS TRUE)
i dont know about overrated, but he is certainly beatable.... especially if he keeps moving up and fighting bigger guys... the talk about floyd and winky a while back was crazy... styles make fights, i think big guys, that can box or have good skills will give floyd trouble, winky, harris, forrest(if he's still got anything left), shane...
you guys don't have to be floyd fans or even like floyd, but to say he's overrated is just fucking stupid. he's the number 1 fighter out there right now. and of course ferocity would have something to say hes's a floyd hater and he thinks magarito is the best, when he is one of the most overrated fighter's in that division.
The guy hasn't beaten anyone that great.. Corrales, Castillio, Judah, old Gatti, Mitchell..
All of these guys had their moments, but none have been on the top pedestal consistently.
He ain't Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, or Tommy Hearns.
I'm not going to breakdown Floyd's flaws.. I'm not an expert, but he ain't perfect. He's had some close calls, and I wouldn't be shocked if Oscar beat him..
Do you think RJJ is an all time great?
Ferocity, u want him to fight Margarito, right? dont worry he will get his chance? I think Margarito should try and fight Oouma or maybe even the winner of Mosley/Vargas. Everyone talks about Floyd picking his fights and fighting easy opponents, but Margarito doesnt take on serious competition. If he did, then he would, o I forgot he did and lost. just face it, no matter who Floyd fights in the next few years (154 and down) is gonna matter. They all will look easy!! In time, it might be a different story, but right now he the man
He is overrated based on what HBO and some of the media make him out to be, but you can't deny who he has beat, preferably Castillo and Chico...Chico was undefeated before facing Mayweather and was whupping ass all over the place; Chico is tall, powerfull, and keeps coming back for more {thats one hard opponent}...Castillo, is a very good fighter, and was actually very underrated when Floyd fought him, but if you look at his record, saw him fight before, and saw how he won, the guy is impressive; Castillo and Chico right now though, are beating the shit out of eachother and probably will not be the same again, but yet Hatton wants to fight the winner, though I wouldn't mind seeing that fight so no real complaint.
He is NO Ray Leonard and NO Duran at this point in his career:
He needs to beat Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, basically clear out the 147lb division since he didn't do it at 140; also, if he can some how become the Champion at 154lbs facing guys like Karmazin, and whoever else is there, then he should be given absolute respect.
Mayweather isn't even on Oscar's level yet...Oscar went after everybody; some would argue it was the Money that was driving him to fight guys like Tito, but I say whatever gets you there in time I don't care
well since floyd would b putting on 18-24 lbs from his best weightclass and since oscar has been at 154 for the past 5 years, i dont think anybody would be too suprised. Overrated?No. Able to go up over 2 lbs a year for 10 years straight?still No.
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