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TESTING... There are millions of boxers and MMA fighters world wide and they all fight under the same rules... But there are a group of people who don't want to change the testing rules for ALL but just for ONE guy... What facts do they have??? Some ingnorant Ni$$a and his daddy and uncle who combined couldn't pass an 8th grade chemistry exam thinks so... Who all fought under the same rules until the youngest was asked to fight a guy he was scared of... All you testing people need to just shut up or boycott boxing until they change the rules for ALL but ducking and cherry picking which fights should have extra testing or not is not only unfair and stupid it makes you look like you are carrying water for 3 ignorant bastards... TESTING FOR ALL or SHUT THE FU$K UP and FIGHT!!! If you want extra test don't just ask one guy. Boycott boxing until your demands are met but don't watch a 1,000 fights without extra test and then act like a guy is tripping when he wants to fight under those same rules....

First of all it was the feet entanglement that had trip Pac up and had him off balance chin up and hands down. If you watch the replay overhead you can clearly see his knees buckled before the punch... Its boxing. But this perfect timing BS needs to go. 40 Rounds and being Knocked Down Five times is not timing or a plan. First of all its rare to get 40 rounds with someone. If it takes you 40 rounds and 5 knock downs is that pefect timing or is that in 40 rounds anything is liable to happen. Hassin Rahman had pefect timing against Lewis and it only took him 5 rounds 35 less rounds and 0 knock downs. Next if some has it 114 to 113 one way how is it a Major Robbery if its 114 to 113 the other way? That means its a ONE out of 12 round disagreement. 7 to 5 or 6 to 6 with a KD can shift 114 to 113 either way. In the third fight Pac threw more and landed more in 8 rounds Marquez landed more in 3 rounds and 1 round was a tie. So if he threw more and landed more in 8 rounds hence the 116 to 112. Close fights and rounds, normally goes to the guy throwing the most punches and making the fight vs. the counter puncher. How is that a robbery. Next, Pacquiao followed up the De La Hoya KO with a Hatton KO and Cotto KO. Marquez followed his KO up with a clear loss to Bradley and then the Alvarado fight with the chest and back acne and a guy WORLD FAMOUS for hiding ROIDS from test in your corner is suspect. Bradley requested testing Arum shafted him on that Alvarado needed the fight and accepted regular testing. Marquez hasn't fought since because of the body transformation at 39 and the Memo in the corner and the chest and back acne nobody is getting in the ring with him that's in a position to request testing. Brock and etc, all requested testing and that's why Marquez hasn't fought since nobody will fight him without testing... The victory is tainted and lucky. Rahman and Douglas did their upset KOs in the first fight in 5 or 10 rounds. To do something in the 4th fight in the 40th round is silly to discuss as something great because if that's the case why didn't you do it in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd fight or the 5th, 10th 20th, 30th, or 35th round. Rahman didn't need 4 fights or more than 5 rounds to get Lewis, Lewis didn't need 4 fights to get him back. The stars lined up for a roided up counter puncher like they never did in the first 3 fights and 39 rounds and then they faded in the next fight. Then the proof was on his chest and back in the Alvarado fight. You don't hire a roid cheat unless you plan on using him for what he is famous for. You hire Phil Jackson for Basketball, Michael Jackson to Sing and Dance, Brad Pitt to Act, and the Roid Cheat to help you Riod Cheat. Its not Rocket Science.

I agree I love Pac but he fought Margarito at 150lb & fought at WW but wanted Cotto at 145lb in the 1st fight. I could understand if he had never fought at that weight but he's giving the impression that its ok to fight Margarito at that weight but with Cotto he feels like he needs to take a little weight off him. I love Pac & Floyd im a huge fan of both but I hate catchweights to suit fighters & Floyd is doing the right thing fighting Cotto at his weight. In my opinion the sactioning bodies shouldn't be sanctioning world title fights at catch weights Sorry to respond to you only because others wrote simular things. But, Pacquiao said BEFORE and AFTER the Margarito fight that he wasn't fighting above 147 again... Two factors you guys are missing Manny is a 140 pounder at best... Second you shouldn't be suprised if a guy has a fight at 150 and weighs inn at 144.5 against a guy that is taller (5 inches) longer reach (6 inches) and weight 17 pounds on fight night... Manny wasn't even 149 on fight night... To ask Manny to move up to 154 12 pounds above his walk around weight is kind of crazy. He is 5'6.5" and a 143 pounds and anything above 147 is too much... Floyd on the other hand walks around at 150 which anything above the 147 limit is JrMW. Which made the Mayweather vs. Marquez fight (catchweight) insane to me and especial when Floyd came in 2 pounds over. In boxing anything between 148 and 154 is a Jr MW because the WW limit is 147... Manny who has never weighed inn at 147 since moving to WW is clearly not a JrMW... Cotto says he is not a WW so I don't see a problem with Cotto asking hey even thought you said before and after the Margarito fight you will never fight above 147 again because you weighed inn at 144.5 for a 150 pound fight and was outweighed 17 pounds in the ring, knowing all that have you changed you mind? And likewise Manny asking Cotto hey you tried to get Margarito to go down to 151 before accepting 153to defend your own 154 pound belt, so are you comfortable at 154 can you still make WW? There is nothing wrong with both guys saying no... Anybody who thinks Manny should fight at 154 or 150 again for that matter is insane. He hasn't even weighed in at 147 for a WW fight yet and has never weighed in above 150 on fight night... Where Floyd and Cotto always weigh over 150 on fight night since both guys moved to WW... Easy to understand when you use reason. Manny is just to small for 150 or 154... Just like his classic counterparts that made him famous are... Nobody expects Barrera, Marquez, are Morales to fight at 150 or 154 so why Manny??? Because he tried 150 once and came in at 144.5... He's just to small to fight above WW, hell he is even small for a WW, PERIOD

These guys Martinez has been fighting lately or glorified european stiffs... I think the best MW on that side of the water is Pirog and they won't fight him because if these last three guys can touch Martinez, Pirog who is younger and stronger than those guys will but the only difference is he'll do damage... Martinez benefited from his two fights against an over-rated Williams and weight drained drunk in Pavlik... Apart from those guys his MW comp is wack... This guy needs to fight a Pirog or even a Jacobs to solidify his claim to untouchable at 160... An 11 round TKO against a very slow and skill deprived Macklin isn't going to get it... No more slow guys, even though Jacobs got KOed he'll push Sergio better than these guys but the best fight at MW is Martinez vs. Pirog.... But I don't think that will happen....

This guy is unbelievable......... First Marquez in 2009 had only fought once above 130 yet Mayweather fought him at a catchweight of 144 and still came in heavy at 146 not making weight how unprofessional. Yesterday I was watching a interview and he said Manny fought Oscar at a catch-weight... Not true, Oscar came down from 154 to 147 (1 division) Manny moved up from 135 to 147 (2 divisions) why because nobody would have brought the fight if Manny would have jumped from 135 to 154 in one fight... Oscar called the shots and the weight... However Floyd conveniently didn't mention he fought Canelo at a catch-weight AFTER talking about Manny fight Cotto at a catchweight. No to mention he had fought Oscar and Cotto at 154 so why not Canelo??? This dude is a fraud and a phony wife beater and in less than 50 days the sham is up... What a clown, no wonder Shantel aborted his twins and ran off with Nelly, May has as about as much class in his personal life as he does in his professional life...

Man shut the **** up. Marquez's right was pretty much ****ed back already while Manny was just starting to unwind his hands. Your boy got KTFO, Deebo style. I remember - you're one of the hardcore grubby Pacstains--an alt most likely. Whatsa matta? The real you still in tears over what happened? Decided to log on as someone else to hide your pain? Your hero took it like a champ - follow his lead. U saw what u saw and that's cool... Sorry, But I'm not being paid, it aint that serious, I preping my Fantasy Team for a playoff run...

Doesn't Matter Who Pac-Man Fights! Pac haters, it doesn't matter who Pac-Man fights! This fight has more creditbility than Mayweather fighting Marquez who only fought above 130 once. Here's the difference Mayweather was taller, had the longer reach and was the naturally bigger man. In this fight Margarito is much taller, with a much bigger reach advantage, and naturally the bigger man. Manny is not looking for a lightweight to fight!!! Plus, altough I appreciate the sweet science but, when I'm paying $60 for a PPV I want to see a KO!!! Show the defensive specialist on regular HBO! I'll pay to see Manny fight Donald Duck because I know that Manny will go for the KO and give me my money's worth and so will Margarito! Can you say the same for Floyd??????? This fight will have more action in 3 rounds than Floyd has given his fans in the past 3 years. I feel asleep on Mayweather vs. Baldomir and Mayweather vs. Marquez. :sleeping: :sleeping:

Ha Ha Ha! ok lets see who manny pac beat!! Erik morales lost a trilogy and a tune up fight then lost to manny pac!!! Oscar de la hoya 36yr old part time fighter since 2002 weight drained and lost 3 of his last 6 fights!!! ricky hatton was knocked out by mayweather and mayweather is not even a power puncher!!! Miguel Cotto --looked weak in his last 2 fights at 147 lbs!! and to top it of manny pac insisted for miguel to drain to 145lbs!! why not fight cotto at his best?? Manny pac is a padded fighter!! HA HA HA! Hey, Bro we are going round and around. I'm not going to change your mind and you aren't going to change mine. So, I guees we respectfully agree to disagree. I'll give you the last word Bro and BTW thanks for being cool and having an adult conversation and disagreement without resorting to childish name calling. It's appreciated! I came across a couple of web thugs... Guys that talk a lot of $h*t on the web. Stay cool and see you the next time, I'm sure this Manny vs. Floyd thing isn't going anywhere anytime soon. LATER

LeadUppercut, you are all over the place. You used an example of paying invoices in business to act like paying personal taxes is the equilvalent. I agreed with what you said if we were talking about paying business invoices. Paying business invoices are completely different than paying business taxes and business taxes are completely different than personal taxes. But if what you are saying is true why aren't Bill Gates, Jack Nicholas, Michael Jordan, Oprah Winfrey, Denzel Washington, Tiger Woods, Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Oscar De La Hoya, Peyton Manning, Jerry Rice, and etc. etc. late paying their PERSONAL TAXES? TMZ would have a field day... But, do you know why they pay their PERSONAL taxes??? Because its makes good financial sense.... Can answer why all these people are paying their taxes when its not the smart thing to do??? Are these people stupid and Floyd is a financial wizzard????

What utter garbage. Manny hasn't knocked anybody out for over five years and nine fights, and he's going to KO Floyd? He couldn't KO Algieri, but he'll KO Floyd?? Sure he will buddy. Clottey - Fought to survive, Pac won every round, face swollen bad Margarito - should have been a TKO ref and corner should have stopped it, Pac won 11 rounds, face all F'ed up, broken optical bone. Mosley - Knocked down only 2nd time in career, Pac won every round, face jacked up. Marquez 3 - Marquez fought safe was out jabbed and out punched by PAC, won 8 rounds, punch stats show 8-3 and one even in Pac favor in most landed punches per round, Marquez face all F'ed up... Bradley - Battered a prime guy won 10 rounds, fought to survive last 7 rounds, face swollen Marquez 4 - Got caught by a guy full of Memo ****tails after 40 rounds a guy winless in three fights was determined none the less, face was all F'ed up Rios - Fought like Winky Wright and Clottey with a high guard, only threw 460 punches in 12 rounds mostly jabs normally throws 800 in 12 rounds mostly power shats, but was battered every round and face was completely all F'ed up, won every round Bradley 2 - Solid win against a crafty undefeated 30 year old veteran. Bradley after the fight said the pop was still there, Won 8 or 9 rounds Algeri - Dominate perfomance against a fresh 30 year old that is taller and longer and at this point moves better and has fresher legs than May, 6 knockdowns *only 4 legit knockdowns* fight could have been stopped twice. Very impressive footwork against a mover that mostly ran. Won every round KOs are hard to get when people stop fighting to win or KO you. Hatton and Cotto were trying to put a hurting on Pac which made them vulnerable to be KOed. Most guys after that just fought to survive and counter and outpoint. If Rios fought like Rios instead of Wrinky he would have been KOed and the only reason he didn't fight like himself is because he felt the speed and power. Power is the last thing to go at 36 Manny still has his power and footwork while Floyd at 38 lost his legs and reflexes although his reflexes are still better than 99% of the guys out there those fractions you lose at 38 vs 28 makes a difference. Lastly, All the bad things, Floyd said about Manny from 2009 to present he is gonna have to pay. Ali whipped Frazier horrible in the first fight Frazier went to the ICU and spent a month in the hospital. Look at his face after the first fight... But Ali dogged him so bad Fraizer went to the edge of death and took 3 to land 1 just to win... I think this will be the same situations, all the accusations, the racist sushi and rice comments, posting pics of the KO, talking about his personal finances without info, and etc. Manny although talks nice to the masses, dude is a proud beast. The look he had on his face at the presser was the same one Frazier had... I'm gonna make you eat every word even if I have to walk through hell and fire to do so... Floyd is going to lose and if father time shows up to reminds him that he is 38, if that happens he is in for an epic beat down...

After seeing the more dominant performance of whopping Mosley( whom I like and respect as a person and fighter and is NOT part and parcel of the upcoming race remarks)) Gayweather wants none of that. Asking $100,000,000? He clearly is afraid. Gay has fought a lot of shop worn underweight guys his whole career the charge that is levied against PAC especially by the Bro Flomos. ANYONE Gay fought Pac fought better. What until the next Marquez fight. 5 rounds. And the great thing is Mexicans come to fight, move straight forward and not run. As for the arguments of a "slick black fighter" kicking Pacs ass, never gonna happen. Infact between Hopkins and Gayweather fans I have never in my entire life crossed the line with race in boxing. I am now. I think myself and other "white boys" are tired of hearing racist **** in these columns. There is a thin line between slick black fighter and chicken ****. The only thing that Gayweather has over the other chicken****s is his speed. Other that that he is a big ***** a runner and typical black punk. Pac will destroy the feather fisted chicken **** wife beating closet homo. And all you brutha's out there can burn riot loot and turn over taxi cabs to protest. In fact I think you can practice in 2012 when DUMBAMA gets voted out of office. I'm black and I hate Mayweather and like Manny, Cotto, Mosley, and other class acts and good fighters. You shouldn't bring race into it. I say that myself and about 75% of the black people I know hate Mayweather and his antics and we all know that he is scared of Manny and that Manny would whup his a$$. So, chill on the racist $hit because Floyd and Flomos represent ignorance more so than blackness. Obama invited Pacquiao to the White House not Floyd. Dr. MLK Jr. raised is children to behave and conduct themselves like Pacquiao, Mosley, Cotto, and not Mayweather. If you are not a racist than don't say racist $hit. Every race has tough guys and cowards. So a coward is coward no matter if he is black, white, red, or yellow... Just call a coward a coward without putting a color before it. When Oscar quit on his stool, I called him a quitter not a Mexican quitter. Who is smarter Dumbama or Bush? Nobody with a brain would say Bush dumb a$$ and speaking of cowards Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh got a combined 10 deferments from Vietnam. Get the point... GOOD!!!!

Really Tho? Man, STFU. Really Man? OK, STFU! Back! OK lets act like kids when someone says something we don't like.

Regardless, of how Marquez feels, he is 1-2-1 vs. Pacquiao and will never surpass him in the Popularity Department or GOAT Department... Another victory would put him at 2-2-1 and the KO would give him the edge... Right now it was just a lucky punch or one punch... If it wasn't it wouldn't have took 42 rounds to land it and 39 rounds for a knockdown, I think its juice but I have no proof other than the suspect federally indicted coach... Now its nothing more than Rahman vs Lewis I, McCall vs Lewis I and those guys didn't need four fights and a PED peddler on their team... For a career high payday and an easy fight so he says he could cement his legacy overall and with Pac, one win in four fights doesn't do it... Douglas has one win over Tyson and Lewis and McCall have KO wins over Lewis... I think Marquez is the type of guy you play one on one beat a couple of times and keeps begging to play again and then finally wins and then takes his ball and goes home....

No disrespect to Lopez but this fight defines boxing... Ortiz was a fraud, an average fighter given superstar status based on one fight against another unproven fighter (Berto)... Ortiz QUIT against Maidana and hadn't did anything since to deserve a Mayweather fight... He was a fraud and true boxing fans knew it and Mayweather knew it and he made a bunch of money of these easily fooled fans... Ortiz is who he is a solid B plus fighter with some pop... He was crowned relevant after a good win against Berto but what people didn't realize was Berto's biggest win to date was a life or death battle with Luis Collazo... Ortiz should be fighting guys like Lopez, not Mayweather... Thank you Lopez for reminding people that in order to be a top fighter you need to string together a streak of 4 to 5 good fights and not pull a Buster Douglas....

Why compare Floyd's PPV #s to Manny's???? Manny is not an American!!!! That's like comparing Floyd's #s to Manny's in Asia.... There are 300 million Americans and about 40 million African Americans vs about 1 million Fillipino Americans... Floyd has a bigger pool a 300 million or at least 39 million bigger built in fan base. Plus what some idiots don't look at is Manny fights about 3 to 1 vs. Floyd meaning Floyd #s wouldn't be the same if he fought as frequently as Pacquiao. A Pacquiao fan has to pay $180 to see Manny fight in a 18 month period, Floyd fans only have to shell out $60... If you look at it that way which any person with common sense will it's easy to see why there is a SMALL difference in #s. Look, it's simple math 1.3 x 3 = 3.9mil and 1 x 1.5 = 1.5mil. Manny out does Floyd's PPV #s every year. Apples and oranges... Not to mention Manny is not an American...

SOME of Mayweather's fans are idiots!!! I wanted to respond to some of the things Floyd's fans have been posting but what's the point. Why arguee with someone who always have a defense for Floyd's actions? His antics, past convictions of assault, the current allegations, his racist and homophobic video post and etc. etc. Manny is a class act and never says anything about anyone and is a champion for the poor and represents his country well. Yet, Mayweather fans find something negative about that and talk about him with such hate. There is no need to bad mouth Pac because you love Floyd... What has Pac done that Floyd's fans find so wrong or disrespectable? Not what Roach or Arum or his fans did or said but what has Pac himself done to deserve their hatred?? Now ask that same question of Floyd? If you're honest some light should be shedded. Someone even tried to fool themself into thinking Manny is afraid of Floyd. Floyd doesn't punish his opponents, he outpoints them. Look at their faces at the end of the fight. Why would anyone who fought or will fight powerpunchers like De La Hoya, Cotto, Margarito, and Mosley be afraid of a guy that hasn't dished out a serious ass whippin' since the Gatti fight 6 years ago???

Dont be so stupid. Only a fkn moron would suggest that Williams is smaller than Martinez. Jeez dude, Williams called out Hopkins at 170. Williams was intending to go back down to welter in order to land a Pac/May payday, he didnt want to fuk up the progress that he had made to date, which is why he requested a catchweight. It was a bullsh1t excuse, because that was not Martinez problem, and Williams can weigh whatever the fuk he wants. And plz..... Pirog doesnt have a resume', yet. You are the dumbest bastard on here and so ignorant!!! Martinez is BIGGER that Williams, I didn't say taller dumb a$$... Williams asked for the catch weight in the rematch. He asked for a catch weight because he knows he's not a MW and can take a MW punch. Williams was a hype job winning fights because he was able to sweat down to 147 which he can no longer do. I think the Cuban dude ended his career anyway, you will never hear from him again in any serious P4P or top boxers conversation. Williams is fighting at 154, Martinez at 160 are you a Fuc$ing idot or what???? You do know 160 is bigger than 154. Using your logic I guess Williams is BIGGER than Mike Tyson because he is taller... Second, dumb a$$ I didn't say Pirog had an awesome resume but I said it was better than Chavez's at MW learn to read dumb a$$...

What like Peterson?? Yeah big and slow Khan - British haterism is pathetic No British Hater but, Peterson is the guy that was dominated and dropped by feather fisted Tim Bradley and given a gift draw against Ortiz. Kahn would make more money fighting Prescott or Maidana based on history than he would fighting anyone else not named Mayweather or Pacquiao. It amazes me and I think Kahn is the only top ten guy in boxing history that doesn't want to avenge his 57 second KO... Even, Roy went after Tarver after the KO. Plus his fans and boxing fans would love to see another Maidana fight... Most great fights like that get another fight. Frazier-Ali, Leonard-Duran, Gatti-Ward, Morales-Barrera, Pacquiao-Maorales, etc. etc. Kahn is a fraud and on borrowed time.

#1 Floyd Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton Mayweather 920,000 PPV Buys!! Ricky Hatton vs. Manny Pacquiao 850,000 PPV BUYS!! MAYWEATHER DREW MORE!!! #2 Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao 1,250,000 ppv buys!!! Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather 2,400,000 ppv buys!!! MAYWEATHER DREW more tha. DOUBLE!!! #3 Floyd Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley 1,400,000 PPV BUYS!!! Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley 1,300,000 PPV BUYS!!! MAYWEATHER DREW MORE AGAIN!!! #4 13/2011 Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 1,450,000 PPV BUYS!!! 9/19/2009 Floyd Mayweather vs. Juan Manuel Márquez 1,050,000 PPV BUYS!! MANNY PAC WINS THIS ONE!! #5 TOTAL IN THESE FIGHTS Floyd mayweather = 5,770,000 million PPV buys!!! Manny pacquiao = 4,850,000 Million ppv buys!!! so who is the bigger draw?? who sells more ppv buys??? numbers dont lie!!! You left out Pac vs. Cotto, Margarito, and Clottey over that same time period. Plus they both were not the headliners but yet B-side fighter vs. DLH. You need to put PPV buys in context. Not to mention its easier to get higher one night numbers if you sell your event as something that happens every 18 months vs. something that happens every 6 months? Example a Mayweather fan is only asked to shell out $60 every 18 months while a Pac fan is asked to shell out $180 in that same time period. So Manny has sold more than Floyd PPV period. Not to mention Floyd is American and Pac is not and not to mention that Pac generates more overseas money than Floyd... Floyd wasn't even a PPV fighter until he fought Gatti and in both Gatti and DLH PPV he was the B-side fighter... 50/50 is fair and Pac has sold more PPVs than Floyd period check the numbers but you know that, that's why you left off ALL of their PPV numbers since 2005 when they both made their PPV debuts because Pac has sold more PPV. (FACT)

Mosley was gassed like crazy!!! Hell, he was gassed in the second trying to close Mayweather. Easy explination, he was comming off back to back camps plus a 16 month lay-off. He had did seven weeks of training for Berto and then the earthquakes happend and then 3 weeks later he started training for Mayweather. Bottom line Shane was begging to be KO'd or at least dropped and Mayweather didn't have the balls to do it!!! But, if that same Mosley shows up against Pac, it's lights out!!! But, I think we will see a different Mosley not comming off the longest lay-off in his career and a back to back training camp or fighting a 6 foot middleweight (Mora) who likes to run and hold. However I still think my boy Sugar Shane is going down. Tough fight for me, I love both of them, they are true warriors and gentlemen, the best that boxing has to offer....

Wow Flomos are still talking about the test that Manny agreed to before signing to fight Margs when Arum gave Wife Beater a deadline.... I have $500 for any Flomo to tell me of another major pro fight not involving Gay Boy in the past billion years that had Gay Boy's special extra test or how many Mayweather Promotions fights were made since Dec. 2009 had the special extra test... Since his goal is to clean up the sport surely all of his fighters fights have special extra test right? WRONG, its all bull**** and the whole world minus Flomos know that he don't give a **** about the test. It was just a way to duck a real challenge...

All Robert has to do is remind Floyd about his crying on the radio over Miss Jackson rolling with Nelly... He couldn't believe that she aborted his wife beating seeds and turned down all his gifts and future child support payments... Nelly response was perfect pitch on how a man (Nelly) deals with a crying B (Floyd). All I can say is maybe Floyd will throw at least 500 punches this fight hell at least 40 per round...

I get you all don't like Floyd but at the end of the day he's right 100% arum and koncz are getting their money no matter what and most likely can't be held responsible for pacs money issues (legally) you wanna complain about fighters like berto being over paid cause of haymon, but atleast they get to keep their money Why do you or Floyd care????? How Pacquiao divides up his money is his business... I never heard Ali or Frazier fighting over managers and promoters, they actually fought. So did Leonard and Duran, and Leonard and Hagler, and Hagler and Hearns, and Leonard and Hearns, and Duran and Hagler, and Trinidad and De La Hoya, and Pacquiao and De La Hoya, and etc. etc.

Rios, you would have got knocked out if you were trying to win. You threw twice as many punches against Alvarado 1. Its hard to knock out non agressive fighters who are aware of your power. Marquez was getting beat and hung in there long enough for lightining to strike... Hatton, Cotto, Margarito got brutilized because despite Manny's power they were trying to go all out and win the fight... You Rios a hard nose balls out warrior fought like Winky Wright. Guards Up and Jabs. Had you tried to exchange like you did with Alvarado in the 1st and 2nd fights you would have been KOed which is why you fought like Wrinky Wright instead of yourself Brandon Rios... You gave yourself no chance to win or go out on your sheild... WHY??? PACQUIAO'S KILLER INSTINCT... What a dumb ass....

The Same Manny Pacquiao has taken the same amount of random drug test as Erik Morales... Why isn't Morales doing random drug testing for this fight??? What a STUPID and UNEDUCATED argument! I'm black and I have nothing to hide but I'm not going to submit to random or illegal searches to prove I'm not a drug dealer or have anything to hide.... Dumb people should understand that PEDs need to be cycled on and off so the pre fight physical and post fight testing is sufficent. That's why Floyd fought 40 fights that way with no problem. That's why time to time guys like Vargas and Toney tested positive under the rules in place now. PEDs are not Viagra, Cialis, or Levitra. You can't just take the every now and then when you need them. They need to be cycled on and off. Plus, the first time Pac agreed to random and unlimited drug test during the first round of negotiations (Urine and Hair Samples) but that wasn't enough for the Scary Boy, he wanted BLOOD like a vampire.

^^^ And just when logic and rational thoughts began to prevail... Very Logical, Boxing fans want KOs, Manny is a KO fighter, Floyd is not. PERIOD end of story!!! Trying to down play that or concede non truths is just childish and silly. We all know the Mayweather's camp song and dance. Of course it was a slight at Manny... KOs sells tickets, so do homeruns, and long passes... Facts or facts! If you aint knocking people out, hitting homers or scoring TDs, you better do something like act like a clown to entertain the people. I've never spent my money on a PPV hoping to see a decision.... But I guess rational is irrational when you trying to appease the irrational. You only compromise the truth and yourself trying to appease the Manny is on steriods and everybody he fights is a stiff and Mayweather is more exciting than Tyson and Pac crowd.... Bottom line, I tune into Manny to see action and it doesn't have a damn thing to do with Floyd fighting to decisions or dancing with the stars or extended vacations. I like action and KOs, not boring low action fights. To even entertain that Manny's rise didn't come from his hard work and balls out fighting style but yet anothers fighter choice not to fight is itself irrational. Both guys got to their positon based on what the did and not what another guy didn't do or chose not to do.

I truly think Ortiz is on CRACK-ROCK!!!! No joke!!!

For you to compare racial profiling with manny's refusal to take tests is fvcking stupid. Plain and simple floyd wanted OST as a stip the same way manny wanted $10 mil per pound over stip. Manny decided he wasn't going to take tests. Racial Profiling assumes people are stopped because of their ethnicity or race. Manny was not accussed because he was filipino was he? Assuming all black/hispanic/asian people driving nice cars is racist!. Accusing one man of cheating is not the same thing. Manny is not PROVING HIS INNOCENCE by taking the tests. He is taking the same tests as floyd is before they fight to assure BOTH men, not just manny, is clean. In the racial profiling analogy you used BOTh entities are not subject to the same rules. Next time don't be so fvcking cavalier in comparing Manny's ridiculous reasons for not taking tests with a social problem where human beings are treated differently because of their race or ethnicity. You ignorant fvck! I was using the comparison of having to prove you are innocent and using my personal experience (Profiling) and relating it to Manny's (Profiling). Dumb Ass, I didn't say anything about Manny's race! The comparison for Manny was people said how can a guy from 106 at 16 be knocking people out at 147 at 31. That is Profiling against small people, If you started at 135 and KO people at 147 that's OK but if you started at 106 you must be on the juice. So dumb ass, read and comprehend before you assume. I said nothing of Manny's race!!! The comparison was having to prove you are innocent of false allegations. Profiling is not just about race, it's also about size, color (which is not race), national origin, and religion are just some of the many things that are profiled. I used one and realated it to the other. I didn't equivilate the two, you tried to do that for me but I didn't. I compared the two! BIG difference you Ignorant ASS!

Ask Hatton for a catch weight? Hatton fought Collazo at the full weight of 147 and won a title there. Why would Hatton need a catchweight? Manny fought Oscar at 147 and then made Miguel Cotto defend his title at a catchweight of 145. Do you think it was fair being that Manny "the smaller guy" who was already successful at 147 against a bigger Oscar make a smaller Cotto come in at a catchweight to defend his title? Simple question to answer. For the record. Marquez called Floyd out and moved up to fight him. Pac is a lil smaller if not the same size as Marquez and could make 140 easier than Floyd could but he is still making JMM come in at the same catchweight Floyd made JMM fight him at. do you think that is fair? Classic Flomo move take one part of a paragraph. No read on to get to the point I was making how many deserving full time WW were around to fight at the time of the Hatton fight. Here is what I wrote and you left out... (How many legit WW were around when Floyd fought Hatton a JWW at 147??? Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Margarito, Clottey.... Catchweights my a$$, signing to fight Marquez at 144 who never fought above 135 and then weighing in at 146. Fight Hatton at 147 when he looked like $hit and was almost KOed by Collazo in his only fight at 147) You see I mentioned the Collazo fight for a BS paper title in there.... LOL Flomos are FUNNY!!!! BTW, Oscar had the pull a put the fight at 147 because nobody would buy Oscar fighting a guy at 154 who had only had one fight at 135 at that point. Please tell me you know that in Dec. 2008 Oscar was calling the shots not Pacquiao.....

yep he is EZ to hit like pacquiao hahahahah T-shirts kind of stupid Pacquiao agreed to the test over a year ago. Plus from the begining he said I'll take ANY test the COMMISSION ask, you know the guys that are in charge not Mayweather. MMA fighters who are at greater danger aren't crying for extra test. Plus you know they were the ones testing Marion Jones... How did that go???? Extra testing is a joke especially when your asking the people who tested Marion Jones to do the testing..... F-U-N-N-Y!!!!!!!