His middleweight run 95-04 was pretty boring. His two fights with Echols are unwatchable.
Strongly disagree. The second fight is ugly (but kinda fun), and the first Echols fight is like a prototype of Hopkins-Trinidad. Hopkins does incredible things as we get deeper into the rounds.
It is also true that four of Manny's illustrious victims had already been knocked out by the time he fought them: Barrera, De La Hoya, Hatton, and Cotto. Morales was the only legend Pacquiao stopped who hadn't been stopped before.
Floyd will pressure Manny late like he does all southpaws. He will separate himself on 3/13 from Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto, and the three Mexican warriors for that matter, you will see.
whoa, floyd had a broken hand and facing a guy 15 lbs heavier. Is he supposed to trade with one hand?
A guy who would go on to eat 12 rounds of punches from Vernon Forrest, not to mention the other punchers he fought. He was a strong, stocky dude, with a pretty damn durable chin.
-Who knocked out Barrera before Pac?
-Nobody is mentioning Oscar here. Even so...by who? A body shot from Bernard.
-Cotto was KOed? I thought he took a knee when the ref stopped it.
Junior Jones knocked out Barrera. I don't understand what you mean by your other two points, they were stopped, plain and simple.
Floyd Mayweather vs Zab Judah
Mayweather dropped first 2 rounds on 2 cards after getting outlanded 11-5 in power shots in opening 6 minutes. Start of round 3 All Floyd from then on, as he outlanded Judah 153-53 in power shots, including 28-2 in the 9th. Judah landed in single digits in total connects in 10 of 12 rounds.
Rounds 7,8 & 9..Utter dominance
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If you watch that and still maintain Floyd never pressures anybody, you're either blind or a Fox News analyst.
floyd never pressured anyone...what makes you think he will pressure manny?......lol.....he'll be on his bike for the whole fight.
Corley, Mitchell, Judah, to name three. As for being on his bike for the whole fight, it's rare Floyd is on his bike for the whole fight, that is a fallacy.
Floyd pressured Zab because that's the best way to beat Zab. Zab's style offensively is nothing like Manny's. If you think Floyd is going to engage Manny and trade punches with him you're crazy. Floyd will not take a single forward step against Manny, that I much I can guarantee.
He won't early, I'll agree to that. But Manny is going to be taken into deep water.
I"m sorry he looks like molases compared to pac. Is that really as quick as may can get or is he just being cautious. If that's May's best speed then Pac has a better chance than I initially thought.
edit.. crap I'm new here, was trying to quote the May Zab clip.
I don't think Mayweather is planning on outspeeding Pacquiao, just as Marquez didn't. He will time and counter him like JMM, and possibly walk him down late.
some people are very special
Brilliant retort, but the end was no different from Pacquiao-Barrera. Barrera's cornermen put the kibosh on it. Barrera was stopped in both instances.
you should.....floyd is never a pressure fighter...everyone knows that....dumbass!
You need new glasses if you don't see him pressuring Zab there. Just as he did Corley and Mitchell.
Man I would love for Mayweather to go toe-to-toe with Pacquiao on March 13 cause last I heard Pacquiao was gonna be running for congress and not in the ring trying to catch up a known runner in the ring.
Going toe to toe and putting pressure on are two different things, but if Floyd should go toe to toe with Manny, Manny will be pretty groggy. It won't be in the early rounds and it won't be "trading shots," strictly speaking.
but Marquez was a fast counterpuncher with aggression.. watch the highlights of the Marquez vs Pac fights. I don't see May having the intensity and speed that Marquez displayed.
Intensity is kind of a subjective intangible, so I'll leave that alone, but Floyd won't display Marquez's speed? :lol1:
How honorable would it have been for Oscar in 2004 to say, since he called the shots, let's postpone the Hopkins fight for early '05 and I'll rematch Sturm in September? I know it wouldn't have made financial sense, but it would have paid off in the long run, because I believe Oscar was a good enough boxer to make adjustments, train properly and use his legs to beat Sturm. He would have gotten a lot of respect and edified his legacy. Then he could have looked for a soft spot on the canvas to pound later.:la:
floyd ran vs baldomir more than sugar ray on his entire career...
I'm not disputing that Floyd sometimes ran, but seldom for all 12 rounds and not against any southpaws in memory.
Ahh man, I don't know what to tell you. I was watching then I fell asleep, woke up when the riot broke out. I fell asleep again in the eleventh, heard the warning for the ten seconds before the eleventh ended and I stopped it at the end of the eleventh. I hope it wasn't like Gatti vs. Ward I at the 12th cause I couldn't take it anymore, it was putting me to sleep.
You want to see an exciting fight? skip to 1:40 on this:
Some black dude doing some hooks in the crowd as if he was in the fight. I think he was a so called Pactard nuthugger cause he stood up on his chair, raised both fist high in the air before Pacquiao did to celebrate Pacquiao's victory.
Oh, are we talking comparative entertainment value? Or what happens on 3/13 and what style Floyd will employ against Pac-Man?