Nobody is saying that. His overall body of work reflects on his greatness.
This was just his 16th Title defense, nothing more, nothing less. It's a numbers game. It's no longer about subjective theory about how good this opponent is Vs how good opponent is. They're all equally "shit" once they lose to him. Even Pulev, Fury, Wilder. They're good opposition now and they're shit opposition according to revisionist history once they have lost to him.
this........
His jab does land with incredible impact. It's a good thing, as in the majority of his recent fights he waited an average of about 7 rounds to throw anything other than a jab.
hmm........
Well his taking heat in here for fighting his mandatory
thats exactly what they wanted though, the haters....
they wanted wlad to get stripped for avoiding his mandatory and then they wouldn't recognize him as the best hw boxer in the world
Leapai isn't a bum. He did beat Boytsov while driving a truck for a living as a disadvantage. He's just not in a class where he could be competitive with Wlad. There's no shame in that. People are talking about how he didn't throw enough punches. The difference in speed with the height and reach? Are you kidding? Throw punches AT WHAT? Give the guy a break. He pulled a huge upset over an undefeated fighter and got to come out of driving a truck for a living to challenge a future HOF champion for the heavyweight championship of the world on ESPN and RTL. If you think he's a bum, get off your butt and do the same thing. The money's good.
your right i apologize i dont mean to demeaner any pro boxer...but this thread is more about the predictable so-called "criticism" of wlad...no matter what he does...
people just want to see him lose
people have just gotten bored with his dominance
it's hard to get excited when you know it's not gonna be competitive
Wlad's leagues above the rest of the HW's and people know that
so whenever he fights, it's ho hum
some might want him to lose, but it's mostly just fan complacency
no matter who Wlad fights, you know what's gonna happen
this sounds about right
He's boring and robbing the public blind. He could have knocked that guy spark out within 2 rounds and excited the crowd, but no he prances around on the outside turning it into a glorified sparring session.
so...i dont see how that is a problem, wlad isn't looking for the quick knockout...
Two year olds say "haters"... and there's already a thread about this fight.
So post in it. Cunt.
you know its the truth, which is why you have the attitude
Who is the toughest fight for Wlad at the moment? Who could be a challenge for him?
no one...he is the best HW boxer in the world, no one has the rare combination of devistating, consecutive power and elite boxing skills
fury is a more intriguing match up and if he beats Chisora again he'll be the most deserving too.
6'9'', huge reach, good power and he actually is quick for such a big man. This is the fight that needs to happen...again, he has to get past Chisora. Wlad beats everyone around but Fury's size would trouble him no doubt and he wouldn't be able to impose his physical will on him.
Jennings is probably the most skilled heavyweight not named Klitschko but I think Wilder is more exciting and poses a bigger, physical threat, if he can beat the winner of Stiverne/Arreola, he should be next in line next year.
Then when Wlad is done with all that, Jennings will be the only one left standing, and then what will the critics say? That he fights bums? That he hasn't fought anybody?
Wlad went through a similar situation a couple years ago with Haye, he beat him and then Povetkin rose as the heir apparent and Wlad made that look easy too. He still didn't get any credit, damned if he does, damned if he don't
wlad fights much better against taller opponets though then he does smaller opponets....
less clinching and more agressive....
fury and wilder have size and power, but arn't as skilled
jennings is skilled but doesn't have the size against wlad
It's about time we find out if Deontay Wilder is for real or not. Right?
lol no....Wilder would not be able to take those shots that lepai took.....
wilder has punchers chance thats about it....
honestly don't think anyone can compete with him until he turns old
well there is one man
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01053/Vitali_Klitschko_1_1053675a.jpg
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I hate how people think people hate the Klits because they're white and Eastern European. It has nothing, I repeat, NOTHING to do with race or nationality. Golovkin and Kovalev both have a good-sized fanbase on this very forum. No, the reason the Klits are hated is a combination of:
1) They're just not very exciting
2) The quality of their opposition. Wlad fought Leapai, when there were much better opponents, like Pulev.
3) Their rabid, bat**** fanboys (known as Klittards). These people are so obsessed with the Klits, they'll try and spin anything negative about them in a way that makes their heroes look good. The best example of this is Lewis-Vitali. They claim Vitali was "dominating" Lewis before the cut, when he was only up 58-56 on the scorecards. They also claim that he has never lost, because he was ahead at the time he lost those fights. No, that's not how boxing works. Thomas Hearns was ahead on the scorecards in the first fight against Leonard, when he got TKO'd. You know what that's called? It's still called a loss.
Klittards also have a HUGE persecution complex. Read the first paragraph of my post for an example.
why do i feel like you had this prepared weeks before the fight today.
Of course he wouldn't.
But you may make yourself feel better by believing that. He is dead now and there is no way to prove it (R.I.P.)
its to a point, Cupo303, where people are going to criticize wlad for anything
they just want to see him lose
Both brothers have DESTROYED every opposition they've faced for 10 plus years now. No one has even come close to touching them... EVERY fighter they've faced can't be bad.. sooner or later one must give credit where credit is due.. these are 2 hulking 6 ft 6 plus giants with jabs you can't get through. If you try to force the action & get inside the jab & close distance you get greeted by monster right hands. Klitschko's have size.. right hand bombs & jabs in there arsenal. What happened to David Haye.. wasn't he supposed to get inside? Let's stop the madness with excuses about poor competition & recognize Klitschko dominance for what it is & please let's STOP with the boring comments... almost Everyone gets knocked out... come on now!
your expecting these people to think logically
good luck brother
People gushing over the Vlad fight is beyond reproach. It should have been obvious to anyone that Vlad would look good against a guy who could not move, was slow as molasses....and could not even throw those molasses shots straight. How can anyone say this victory reflects on Vlad's greatness in any way with a straight face? This guy was good enough to receive a proper beating and little else, there are guys in MMA who could box circles around him. I am glad he got the payday and hope he is not injured because he is obviously a nice kid.
The competition Vlad fights is increasingly bad. Its downright ridiculous in fact. meanwhile there is a line at the gate of decent fighters who could be a problem for the paper champ....This guy deserves no credit until he takes some of those guys on....not some guy we never heard of.....a guy like Haye, Fury, Chisora, etc. Stiverne, Aereola even.....or if he wants the size advantage? how about Ruiz?
This is ridiculous it certainly is not comendable, but people eat it up and praise this guy for fighting guys who are tailor made and have virtually no chance of doing damage. The Klitschkos have been very smart and self serving yet always make it seem like they are fighting guys who are dangerous and whom the fans have an interest in seeing in the ring...I call bs, I call a bandwagon to put all the horse manure these guys have generated with their holier than thou excuses as to why negotiations would not work....when it has come out that they are real @holes during these negotiations, when the fights we see are such garbage.
yeah because size is the only reason wlad wins fights
maybe he should fight mariusz wach
Week after a big fight. You gotta pick you troll game up to get hits
typical of a floyd fan to avoid the truth, the catchweight forcing someone to wear pillow gloves
i hope your happy in floyd's "fake" victory
floyd fan (threadstarter) trying to defend Floyd making someone wear different gloves
GLOVES THAT WERE APPROVED BY COMISSION
THAT WAS NOT IN THE CONTRACT, ANYTHING ABOUT GLOVES
its pathetic floyd fans have come down to this level
I think most think Floyd won.
Press row scores not out yet but from the ones I've seen most thought Floyd won the fight because he did win the fight.
How exactly?
Yeah and everybody that scored it for Maidana is an "unbiased, logical, well knowledgeable boxing fan that doesn't have any bias towards or against Floyd Mayweather."
This **** is pure entertainment. You all are soooo mad. "A guy finally won more than 3 rounds against Floyd but still lost. We may never get this close again."
:lol1::lol1::lol1:
you obviously have a favorable bias towards black fighters judging from your posts and sig..you never give any respect to non-black fighters
your opinion means sh*t
Wait, so when Oscar De La Hoya chose Mayweather's gloves when they fought noone says anything about it, but when Floyd does it, it becomes the reason that he won the fight? wtf?
I guess we're supposed to believe that stuff like this has never happened in the history of boxing?
so its right that floyd can chose what gloves maidana wears
your a delusional nuthugger
I thought the 114-114 reflected the most accurate score only because the fight was closer than the other two judges had it.
But no doubt Mayweather won this fight.
no he did not
This is the naked truth.
the thing is when it comes to high profile fighters like pac and floyd
their is never any objectivity
people thinking floyd won is this subjective bias
And your in the red for making retarded comments. Your opinion also means shit.
well judging from your posts and your sig, you obviously like any fighter that is black and don't like any fighter that is not black..
which is why you are to stupid to refute it