People gushing over the Vlad fight is beyond reproach. It should have been obvious to anyone that Vlad would look good against a guy who could not move, was slow as molasses....and could not even throw those molasses shots straight. How can anyone say this victory reflects on Vlad's greatness in any way with a straight face? This guy was good enough to receive a proper beating and little else, there are guys in MMA who could box circles around him. I am glad he got the payday and hope he is not injured because he is obviously a nice kid.
The competition Vlad fights is increasingly bad. Its downright ridiculous in fact. meanwhile there is a line at the gate of decent fighters who could be a problem for the paper champ....This guy deserves no credit until he takes some of those guys on....not some guy we never heard of.....a guy like Haye, Fury, Chisora, etc. Stiverne, Aereola even.....or if he wants the size advantage? how about Ruiz?
This is ridiculous it certainly is not comendable, but people eat it up and praise this guy for fighting guys who are tailor made and have virtually no chance of doing damage. The Klitschkos have been very smart and self serving yet always make it seem like they are fighting guys who are dangerous and whom the fans have an interest in seeing in the ring...I call bs, I call a bandwagon to put all the horse manure these guys have generated with their holier than thou excuses as to why negotiations would not work....when it has come out that they are real @holes during these negotiations, when the fights we see are such garbage.
smh another Brit whining about the Klitschko's dominance...
They (Brits) were furious at the outcome of the Haye fight. Because they genuinely believed that Haye would knock him out. Don't believe me? Go look up all threads from 3 years ago.
When Wlad dominated him they were bitterly upset.
Please tell me a fellow new yorker didn't in total stupidazz fashion call me a brit...Im hoping I misunderstood this post
There's a thread called "Wlad vs Leapai discussion thread." USE IT. CUNT.
So sorry someone twisted your arm and forced your eyeballs on this page...do what I do with your threads if you don't like it...ignore them
Who's praising him? He did what he had to do, put away the bum in convincing fashion after carrying him for the fans in the stadium for a few rounds. That's important for his fan-base in Germany, to get their money's worth for the 'show'. Sadly, he isn't going to take some unnecessary risks to appease his haters on an internet forum.
I think some people are a bit retarded or just don't understand something - this guy was a mandatory, who Wlad was forced to face, or lose the belt. If he had lost the belt, it would have made the division even worse, got him less respect for not being a true unified or undisputed champ, and i'm sure some of the fools on here would even say he was ducking! How is Wlad to blame for modern heavyweight boxing and this whole business of padding records and poor matchmaking? Blame the WBO and modern boxing for a guy like Boytsov to build up these padded records and then get found out, and for Leapai to get a shot out of nowhere, just because he beat the mando. I think that's wrong.
People don't want to face Wlad...they talk the talk but at the end of the day they are there in the mix for a payday, or are just deluded. The funniest thing is though, the hypocrisy is incredible. Because let's say someone like Wilder is 30-0 fighting bums, he is the next hope cos he's fighting in America and is American. Or Fury being the next Brit hope. Although there's literally not much difference from these Euro 'bums' that Wlad fought like Wach, Pianeta who built up similar records but in Europe...
Wlad will fight Pulev, and Chisora/Fury...and the WBC champ...and then what? It's already forseeable the haters on here will just say 'oh they were bums anyway, it doesn't add to his legacy'.
The haters should stay mad though, I mean some lives must be truly pathetic to devote their accounts to a boxer they hate, only posting on threads related to him...haters on NSB remind me of closet homos, they try so hard to denounce their hate that they probably love it deep inside and can't accept it.
You know.....there is no rule that says one has to fight the mandatory...just sayin'.
And this situation was not isolated, choices have been made throughout this man's career. Lewis somehow managed to fight guys who the fans wanted him to...go figure. And Bowe who ducked Lewis at least, ironickly enough, showed that refusing a mandatory is not suicide!
Guys he said Wlad is ducking Haye. Why even bother with serious responses?
It's another guy who doesn't even watch HWs and just logs in to whine after wlad fights on TV.
A rematch with haye would have been a better fight
and who says you HAVE to fight a mandatory?
Sheeple
Of course he wouldn't.
But you may make yourself feel better by believing that. He is dead now and there is no way to prove it (R.I.P.)
You can't guarantee anything in life, but I guarantee Frazier would knock him out.
smh another Brit whining about the Klitschko's dominance...
Guys he said Wlad is ducking Haye. Why even bother with serious responses?
It's another guy who doesn't even watch HWs and just logs in to whine after wlad fights on TV.
They (Brits) were furious at the outcome of the Haye fight. Because they genuinely believed that Haye would knock him out. Don't believe me? Go look up all threads from 3 years ago.
When Wlad dominated him they were bitterly upset.
Of course he wouldn't.
But you may make yourself feel better by believing that. He is dead now and there is no way to prove it (R.I.P.)
its to a point, Cupo303, where people are going to criticize wlad for anything
they just want to see him lose
Nobody is saying that. His overall body of work reflects on his greatness.
This was just his 16th Title defense, nothing more, nothing less. It's a numbers game. It's no longer about subjective theory about how good this opponent is Vs how good opponent is. They're all equally "shit" once they lose to him. Even Pulev, Fury, Wilder. They're good opposition now and they're shit opposition according to revisionist history once they have lost to him.
this........
People gushing over the Vlad fight is beyond reproach. It should have been obvious to anyone that Vlad would look good against a guy who could not move, was slow as molasses....and could not even throw those molasses shots straight. How can anyone say this victory reflects on Vlad's greatness in any way with a straight face? This guy was good enough to receive a proper beating and little else, there are guys in MMA who could box circles around him. I am glad he got the payday and hope he is not injured because he is obviously a nice kid.
The competition Vlad fights is increasingly bad. Its downright ridiculous in fact. meanwhile there is a line at the gate of decent fighters who could be a problem for the paper champ....This guy deserves no credit until he takes some of those guys on....not some guy we never heard of.....a guy like Haye, Fury, Chisora, etc. Stiverne, Aereola even.....or if he wants the size advantage? how about Ruiz?
This is ridiculous it certainly is not comendable, but people eat it up and praise this guy for fighting guys who are tailor made and have virtually no chance of doing damage. The Klitschkos have been very smart and self serving yet always make it seem like they are fighting guys who are dangerous and whom the fans have an interest in seeing in the ring...I call bs, I call a bandwagon to put all the horse manure these guys have generated with their holier than thou excuses as to why negotiations would not work....when it has come out that they are real @holes during these negotiations, when the fights we see are such garbage.
You just described Floyd Mayweather. :lol1:
This guy deserves no credit until he takes some of those guys on....not some guy we never heard of.....a guy like Haye, Fury, Chisora, etc. Stiverne, Aereola even.....or if he wants the size advantage? how about Ruiz?
Chisora and a Fury are scheduled to fight each other. As are Arreola and Stiverne.
I'm not saying there wasn't better opponents available for a Wlad. But none worth vacating a belt over.
Whether you like it or not this was probably the best time for this mandatory to take place. It's not postponed or delayed any big fights.
There's no clear number 1 contender for Wlad, so it's good to see he top 10 fight it out to get a shot, so we know who deserves it, and who might have a chance.
Who's praising him? He did what he had to do, put away the bum in convincing fashion after carrying him for the fans in the stadium for a few rounds. That's important for his fan-base in Germany, to get their money's worth for the 'show'. Sadly, he isn't going to take some unnecessary risks to appease his haters on an internet forum.
I think some people are a bit retarded or just don't understand something - this guy was a mandatory, who Wlad was forced to face, or lose the belt. If he had lost the belt, it would have made the division even worse, got him less respect for not being a true unified or undisputed champ, and i'm sure some of the fools on here would even say he was ducking! How is Wlad to blame for modern heavyweight boxing and this whole business of padding records and poor matchmaking? Blame the WBO and modern boxing for a guy like Boytsov to build up these padded records and then get found out, and for Leapai to get a shot out of nowhere, just because he beat the mando. I think that's wrong.
People don't want to face Wlad...they talk the talk but at the end of the day they are there in the mix for a payday, or are just deluded. The funniest thing is though, the hypocrisy is incredible. Because let's say someone like Wilder is 30-0 fighting bums, he is the next hope cos he's fighting in America and is American. Or Fury being the next Brit hope. Although there's literally not much difference from these Euro 'bums' that Wlad fought like Wach, Pianeta who built up similar records but in Europe...
Wlad will fight Pulev, and Chisora/Fury...and the WBC champ...and then what? It's already forseeable the haters on here will just say 'oh they were bums anyway, it doesn't add to his legacy'.
The haters should stay mad though, I mean some lives must be truly pathetic to devote their accounts to a boxer they hate, only posting on threads related to him...haters on NSB remind me of closet homos, they try so hard to denounce their hate that they probably love it deep inside and can't accept it.
I agree Leapai was well overmatched but it was a mandatory defence.
He isn't ducking anyone.
Who out of this lot really has a chance against Wlad? Wilder if he can connect?
It's just not a division blessed with emerging talent. Everyone else is clearly below the level of Wlad.
I'm glad Wlad got this shîtty defence out of the way so it hasn't got in the way of a better fight.
Arreola v Stiverne winner will be next I think. Wlad wants the belt. He wants all of them, which is why he didn't vacate when this pitiful contender came up.
nobody is gushing, nobody is praising him, nobody "eats up" Wlad's fights
the guy gets bashed nonstop for slaughtering ranked contenders
he's a big HW, he can't go higher nor can he drop down
nothing he can do but fight whoever gets put in with him
he ducks no one and wins one sidedly every time
Wlad's simply too good for his division
he gets more flak than credit for it, this thread makes no sense
I saw Leapai throw one punch, and realized he wasn't worthy of fighting for the title.
HW division is truly sad.
And Joe Frazier would absolutely MURK Wlad.
Who's gushing??? You're mad because people watched the Wlad fight and there's some people who aren't bashing or slamming him lol wth why are you so mad??
People gushing over the Vlad fight is beyond reproach. It should have been obvious to anyone that Vlad would look good against a guy who could not move, was slow as molasses....and could not even throw those molasses shots straight. How can anyone say this victory reflects on Vlad's greatness in any way with a straight face? This guy was good enough to receive a proper beating and little else, there are guys in MMA who could box circles around him. I am glad he got the payday and hope he is not injured because he is obviously a nice kid.
The competition Vlad fights is increasingly bad. Its downright ridiculous in fact. meanwhile there is a line at the gate of decent fighters who could be a problem for the paper champ....This guy deserves no credit until he takes some of those guys on....not some guy we never heard of.....a guy like Haye, Fury, Chisora, etc. Stiverne, Aereola even.....or if he wants the size advantage? how about Ruiz?
This is ridiculous it certainly is not comendable, but people eat it up and praise this guy for fighting guys who are tailor made and have virtually no chance of doing damage. The Klitschkos have been very smart and self serving yet always make it seem like they are fighting guys who are dangerous and whom the fans have an interest in seeing in the ring...I call bs, I call a bandwagon to put all the horse manure these guys have generated with their holier than thou excuses as to why negotiations would not work....when it has come out that they are real @holes during these negotiations, when the fights we see are such garbage.
yeah because size is the only reason wlad wins fights
maybe he should fight mariusz wach