Pugilisticuffs

Kovalev knows he got the shaft and was told this (that he was robbed) by many American fans of his along with members of the media. He said in a recent video interview that he knows that all 3 American judges gave Ward round 10 too. He's not happy about them giving Ward rounds he didn't deserve to win on the cards. At best, Ward got 5 rounds. The average score from 60 media outlets was 115-112 for Kovalev. The judges' scorecards and watching the fight objectively tells the story. There's really no need for punch count videos or CompuBox stats.

You rank him higher than Ward, Kovalev, and GGG? Skill wise Loma's on a different level. It's him and Crawford as P4P #1 & #2. The rest of the pack are a good bit behind in terms of how developed their games are, overall technical prowess and the quality of their technique, footwork & fundamental soundness. They look better each fight out while the rest are on the decline. They have more upside than the rest too and are still improving which is scary.

Good one. Yeah Spence really goofed with whatever PCT program he was doing after his cycle. He had gyno galore. He's the next Mayweather, Floyd thinks. Maybe he'll be that until VADA pops him for something juicy. http://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/spence-algieri-fight%20(1)_1.jpg http://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/spence-algieri-fight%20(4)_1.jpg

What does any of that have to do with Ward still taming the Krusher? there was enough propaganda on the planet for Pac beating Floyd two-fold. Ward vs Kova ''controversy'' has nothing on 2015. give it a rest kid. :bottle: Yes, troll. I even know more about the guy you're named after than you do. Guaranteed. LOL @ Ward "taming" Kov. You don't know what the definition of propaganda is, either. When it came time to select the 2016 "Fighter of the Year" every single major publication denied Ward in his own country and across the globe. He lost both the popular and the electoral vote, aka the fan & media vote. Find a new hobby Tinker Bell. I knew you were stupid when you came into my thread and tried to crash it by bashing Loma (who is more accomplished than Rigo as an am and pro) and proclaiming Rigo to have 500 fights, which he doesn't, he actually had less amateur fights than Loma. You've been listening to Freddie Roach too much. That's who you got that figure from. Sad, Beavis. I can read you like a poorly written book and appropriately punish you for your predictability.

pretty cool stuff. I think so too. Some publications were saying that he (Loma) didn't hold the official record for being the fastest man to win a major world title (tied with Muangsurin), or the fastest man to do it in two divisions, and they showed the Fight Fax print out. Fight News did this, for example. Well, it'll now show them separated with the WSB bouts underneath the standard professional boxing matches on his career record from what I understand (that's what the motion was about). They officially don't count anymore meaning Loma is 7-1 in pro boxing and his records will stand. Same with Usyk's record. Usyk is now officially 11-0 in pro boxing. Both had 6 WSB semi-pro bouts with the Ukraine Otamans, a name that Lomachenko picked for their team.

Wait! So being exciting is just cause for these 'patriotic' americans to turn on their own? Wow, how patriotic is that! Clown! Max Kellerman is sweet science scholar at heart, I know that, that doesn't mean he didn't do the things he did. Fact is, HBO white supremists put pressure on Ward and Crawford to move up, but not on GGG. Fact is, your fake patriots turned on their own and supported Pac because they couldn't stand black man Floyd being as successful as he was. Max Kellerman and others are the face of HBO, and they are pushing those directives, plain and simple. Being exciting matters in the BUSINESS of professional boxing. Who's the clown again? Oh, right. In Pac's comeback fight he fought Jessie Vargas, a second tier fighter. HBO wanted none of it despite Pac being an exciting ATG PPV-level fighter (though less exciting over the last few years). Top Rank did their own PPV instead and picked up its production because HBO told Arum & Team Pacquiao "Not interested. We'll pass." Take the tinfoil hat off, chief. Back in the days of Ali it was Arum pushing minority fighters at the time, like Ali who he promoted, directly into the spotlight. He was signing minority fighters specifically, that's out of his own mouth. Back then the racial tension was much worse than it is now. You're a conspiracy theorist. For starters, Ward signed a contract with HBO to build up a fight with Kovalev. He could no longer make SMW after the layoff so he was forced to move up. Nobody ever forced him to get paid 5 million to fight Kovalev lol. And Crawford, he hasn't even moved up yet and his next fight is still at 140. He's been planning to move up because he's big for the division and come fight night he's heavy. Mikey Garcia is also going to be moving up to a division more natural for him, and that's Junior Welterweight (140). If/when Crawford does move up then he'll have no white fighters to potentially lose to in the Top 10, unless Horn somehow beats Pac and then they fight. Look at every respected Top 10 Welterweight list right now and you won't see a single white fighter at this time on there. You pulled the race card and I pulled out common sense to defeat your bs.

Interesting, Derveyanchenko had a 24-1 record in the WSB. I don't see why the WSB records shouldn't count as pro-fights, but there's definitely different rules from the pro's. The World Series of Boxing or "WSB" is AIBA's own creation. It's a gray area. It was initially meant to be a hybridization of amateur boxing with a pro-style look & feel that would allow amateurs to retain their Olympic eligibility and to help bridge the gap between the ams and pros. The WSB bouts that are recognized/counted haven't been scratched altogether from Fight Fax's official record books. They'll still be listed on the Fight Fax records (record list printouts) that SACs, promoters, matchmakers, etc have access to see but they're now to be treated independently so that they're separated from standard professional matches. Many WSB bouts have been previously counted by Fight Fax as full professional fights. All six of Lomachenko's WSB bouts were counted, despite these bouts being sanctioned in regions of the world that are out of the ABC's, and therefore Fight Fax's, reach/jurisdiction. On-the-record they're still there, but, they don't count toward the total of fully recognized professional matches for fighters that competed/compete in it. Off-the-record, it's optional to announce. Whether or not the fighter's record is announced with them included during fights is up to them/their team. Lomachenko can optionally be announced as either 7-1 or as 13-1. Usyk can optionally be announced as either 11-0 or as 17-0.

Pro boxers with less than 15 pro bouts are allowed to fight in the WSB. You can have two pro boxers facing each other. I would not call that a non-professional bout. I consider these WSB bouts as semi-professional. Back in the day, amateur boxers used to go straight from the amateurs - point-scoring system, headgears, tank tops, 4×2 or 3×3 minute rounds - to the pros. The WSB has offered a lot of boxers a better transition from the amateur to the pro ranks. That's what these WSB bouts are, they're semi-pro. That's also what they're billed as. When Lomachenko fought there, for example, he fought 6 times against 5 boxers that were amateurs or "PrAmateurs". None of them were full-fledged pros. AIBA has their own pro banner known as APB, which you probably know. Had Lomachenko or Usyk fought in the APB then their fights would definitely count as full professional fights. They fought in AIBA's AOB and WSB as amateurs and semi-pros. The WSB is now used as a way to qualify for the Olympics and was used by some boxers for the Games in Rio last year. Some of these boxers were already pros and wanted to compete at the Olympics, so they went through the WSB qualifiers. One amateur from Team USA, Josh Temple, lost at the qualifiers and it counted as a "pro" fight loss on his Fight Fax record so he's now suing USA Boxing and IIRC the ABC as well. He hadn't even turned pro yet.

Yeah all of Kova's previous fights were close too! Don't feel sad bruh Well, I'll hit you with the facts again. How about these apples. The Boxing Writers Association of America didn't even have Ward (our last male US Olympic gold medalist) on their official ballot for FOTY to win the Sugar Ray Robinson Award. The Ring didn't have him as a nominee of theirs either. Boxing Writers Association of America sets annual awards ballot 2016 RING AWARDS: FINALISTS FOR FIGHTER OF THE YEAR Both American media outlets and the two most important publications for annual awards. Ward was nowhere to be found on their ballots. Hmmm. I wonder why? (pssst, they knew it was a BS gift decision). ;) Carl Frampton, a Northern Irishman, ended up winning Fighter of the Year by both publications. The rest of the major publications gave FOTY to Lomachenko (WBN, CBS Sports, ESPN Deportes, etc.) & a couple to Crawford. None of them went to Ward.

This doesn't prove anything. Majority of Americans are white and then there is also a large hispanic population in America. That is why most of them were rooting for Manny against Floyd and for GGG and Krusher against Ward. That is also why they tried to make as if Floyd, a welterweight, was ducking GGG, a career middleweight. There's nothing new hear, Americans (whites) discrediting and routing against fellow Americans (blacks) has been happening since the beginning of time. Just go into an Anthony Joshua or Wilder thread and see how much unreasonable hate is being spewed and how much salt there is at their success. Look how much salt is being directed at the welterweight and junior middleweight divisions as well. You know why? Coz they dominated by blacks. Bud gets a little less hate than most of em, but I bet if he left HBO and/or Bob Arum and went to PBC you would see a mountain of hate directed at him. The majority of Americans are also considered very patriotic. Would you like to see a poll and accompanying study on that too? I'm American btw. Maybe I'll link you to the in-arena footage where they're chanting "SOG!" and think he's landing even when he isn't and cheering it. Americans in Vegas were not rooting for an obscure Russian that speaks broken English and likes to punish his North American opponents. That's a fact. The video footage proves it and common sense does as well.

cute late registration to the site... these cute little topics have been done rinsed far too much. don't mess with the troll cop, you will get arrested. considering the thread title....yeah you come off from left field... you should write a letter to Ward in pink ink. let him know how you truly feel. just make sure the ink is pink. Don't late the late registration fool you. I mean, who in the hell would make their very first post here about an ABC conference that's 8 hours long per day? ;) I'm that boxing geek that will scare you and your goon friends into hiding. I could talk more about the fight and how the last half of the fight was scored. With 3 judges * 6 rounds that's 18 possible rounds to score with only 1 judge giving Kovalev a single round of those possible 18. It's not like I/we haven't seen the judges' scorecards. Yeah, clearly nothing was fishy about that All-American job. I'm American so I'm calling it as it was. I'm glad HBO, The Ring, and the rest of the major media publications did too.

that's cute man, but again, new generations will wonder why Kovalev's performance was ''conservative'' as SRL stated... why is that direct, because anybody can find footage of Kovalev's fights before Ward. Day and Night. What are Kova's memorable fights? Fighting an old Alien and winning his belts? Pascal? Did the Alien beat Pascal before? As you say, ''you can't even make this stuff up..'' which is said alot around here. cute alt bruh! Nah. Everyone knows Ward rightfully lost to Kov. Hell, Floyd said it ffs. Ward keeps talking about retirement. I believe him, it isn't for leverage. He's scurred. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ACkw5XAAIrV0m.jpg I'm not some big Kov fan. I just know a robbery when I see one. Been around too long, kiddo.

Good info. Ive seen Loma haters cite those fights to argue that he didn't win the title so quickly Honestly, the record doesn't really matter. In terms of winning a belt (and then another in another division) quickly Im more impressed with what Monster Inouye did, as he is so young. Loma was an experienced amateur and an older dude. So winning a belt QUICKLY isn't impressive IMO. HOWEVER, Loma IS very impressive. True p4p talent, and beating good fighter in Russell & Axeman in 2 divisions is p4p worthy. So this doesn't really change my opinion of Loma. Thanks. I just found out myself about the ABC's ruling on the WSB days ago, despite it happening nearly 7 months back. The conference was held for six days from July 29th through August 3rd and covered not just amateur & pro boxing but also MMA, Kickboxing & Muay Thai, which the ABC also oversees through their Unified Rules and sanctioning. If a SAC (State Athletic Commission) or TAC (Tribal Athletic Commission) isn't available in a given region to officially sanction bouts then they, the ABC, can step in to do it directly. I haven't heard a peep about these rulings (for BoxRec too) from any of the boxing media that I follow or from any of today's so-called "new media" outlets. This officially changes some things both in retrospect and also likely in going forward. Good post though. I actually agree with you that what Naoya Inoue accomplished is a more impressive feat. He won a major world title in two divisions in only 8 fights. He was a solid amateur but nothing elite, let alone an elite of the elite amateur talent like a Lomachenko, Rigondeaux or Zou Shiming. He never medaled at the World Championships, where he competed there as a Youth, or at the Olympics, since he lost in the final at the Astana, Kazakhstan qualification tournament.

I know all those differences, thats why i said in all the revelant ways theyre pro fights. Like Doug Fischer said, If it looks like a pro fight, if it’s conducted like a pro fight and if the fighters are paid like pro fighters, then WSB fights are pro fights. WSB fights were at a higher level than your regular record padding early fights....invaluable experience. The ruling is the ruling...before august of last year they were pro fights, now they are not and retroactively, they can claim those records. Not much else to say. Doug published an article about some of the differences between WSB semi-pro bouts and pro fights on The Ring's website. The "final opinion" was given by Steve Farhood of Showtime, and that final opinion was about pay. Again, Loma & Usyk, among other top amateurs, have been paid since 2008 as amateurs (before they competed in the WSB). You've clearly read what Fischer published a couple years ago on The Ring's website, "Vasyl Lomachenko, The WSB and the Record-Keeping Divide". Doug and Farhood apparently didn't realize that top Ams have been getting paid for the last 9 years, and AIBA approved of the prize money for boxers medaling at major tournaments; the World Cup, the World Championships, the Olympic Games, even down to the Continental Championships (ie., the European Championships) you get paid. WSB bouts are higher level (due to top level Am talent) than the regular padded fights at the start of most fighters' pro boxing careers but Loma & Usyk fought amateurs. None of the boxers that Loma fought were established pros outside of the WSB. This likely played a part in BoxRec not recognizing them despite Fight Fax recognizing them as pro fights.

Not surprising that they'd be on the same card. Usyk just fired James Ali Bashir as his trainer and hooked up again with Anatoly Lomachenko, Loma's father/trainer, the same man who coached him to his 2012 Olympic gold medal. Whether that was a good idea or not, we'll see. Anatoly was an outstanding amateur coach but he needed some assistance in the pro game from Robert Garcia, the RGBA guys in general, and Russ Anber as well.

lol yeah and Holyfield said Pac beat Floyd, but as you said, ''punchstats don't matter.'' my dear lil bruh. Ward tamed him bruh Your "trolling", if we can even call it that, is bush league. Roy Jones Jr. spilled the beans on Ward too and they're homeys. Do I need to go on? Just suck up the loss and watch Ward duck the rematch. It wouldn't be the first time he's been to court for not honoring a contract and it won't be the last. I could hit you with this all day. It's plentiful after that ass beating he took from the Krusher. Almost knocked out by a JAB! No wonder he's ducking the rematch. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4RyRP6WcAINEh_.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5aF5fBU0AEJIRU.jpg

but what does any of that have to do with the way Ward tamed Kovalev? ''...of course I want a rematch and I will kick his ass...'' - Kovalev #FAIL He'd get the rematch but Ward's side, his team, has gone quiet. Suddenly Kovalev fears the almighty feather-fisted Ward now? You can't even make this stuff up. Plz stahp. Roc Nation, Virgil and Andre are doing everything in their power to duck the mandatory rematch.

When you sign a contract you read it in full first including any and all fine print. You have your legal team look it over, twice. Ward knew about the immediate rematch clause when he agreed to it by signing the contract, it wasn't in fine print. Once again he's looking to renegotiate the terms, despite them being legally bound in writing and signed off on by both parties. It's simple, honor your contractual obligations and you'll at least be viewed as a man of your word. You'll also avoid costly legal battles in court and Ward's been there before with Dan Goossen. Ward never earned a title shot at Light Heavyweight in the first place. He never even beat a Top 10 ranked LHW prior to fighting Kovalev for his 3 world titles. He should be thanking Kovalev for granting him the great opportunity, given that he didn't have to give him the fight, especially in the US. Kovalev was the consensus #1 ranked Light Heavyweight in the world, undefeated, and the unified champion of his division. Yet, Ward still thought at the time that he was the A-side going into the fight after years of absence from the sport fighting in a lower division. You can't even make this stuff up.

and questioning was the right thing to do..and their fightfax record were the correct ones until this ruling happened.I didnt know this case had actually been settled, so nice for informing me. So now they can officially say those are their records. Those WSB bouts were pro in all the revelant ways but if thats the ruling, thats the ruling. Listen, I'm not trying to put you on blast or anything. I only quoted your posts to prove to that other poster, Clegg, that WSB bouts are still considered by some, even many, as official pro fights. Questioning is the right thing to do. There were a number of differences when Lomachenko & Usyk fought in the WSB. Besides being a team league advancing tournament, for instance, they also had Standing 8 "Protection" Counts, which have been in the amateurs forever and haven't been in pro boxing formally since 1998, per the ABC. The gloves that Lomachenko wore were 10 oz and not 8's, which are what the pros wear within his weight range. They were also limited to 5 rounds, unlike the pros where you have 4, 6, 8, 10 & 12 rounders (used to be up to 15 until the 80's). The "paid" argument is also moot because amateurs have been expressly allowed to be paid by AIBA since 2008. Both Loma & Usyk have been paid since '08. If you want sources for any of this, just ask. I can give them to you right from them directly. Willie Pep used to be a paid amateur as well in Connecticut back when they allowed amateurs to be paid during the Great Depression while other states didn't allow it. The prize money today is up to 100k if you win the Olympics. You also get paid an annual salary, or a monthly stipend, after you win the Olympic Games. AIBA has given out prize money since 2008 for winning several major tournaments that any boxer is entitled to as long as they medal.

He's a home fighter that's never made any concessions. When you sign a contract to fight a unified world champion and there's a rematch clause, honor it. Back in the day it was a gentleman's agreement to rematch them for the opportunity at the titles. Nowadays, you need a rematch clause in the contract. It's not hard to not respect Ward given the way he's conducted himself after the Kovalev fight. There's also no way in hell that Ward won round 10, yet all 3 (American) judges gave it to him anyway. He was given rounds that Kovalev won, not just toss-up rounds. He can either give him a rematch or retire. I'm American and most couldn't care less about Ward unless they live in Oakland or the Bay area.

Most wanted him to win, hence the reason they were desperate for him too. Nothing more to be seen. I can't tell if they're genuine Kovalev fan boys or Ward haters, one thing I believe is though is that the core of the media and biased HBO commentary team were rooting for Kovalev and didn't like that Ward proved them all wrong. Another "genius". HBO clearly wanted a Russian fighter with broken English at a time like this, with the Russians hacking into the (US) govt and making headlines everyday, than our own Olympic champion & hero Andre Ward. We haven't had this much tension with US-Russian relations since the Cuban Missile Crisis. :thinkerg:

Wrong again, try watching the round. Kovalev misses with his wildest shot of the night and Ward is countering every opening, Klincher may have outlanded him certainly threw more but the defence and timing of Ward is a level above Kovalev, look for what the judges look for and it's CLEARLY a Ward round, narrow but clear. The judges have the best seats in the house, they're not coerced by HBO commentary like fools with no idea how to score and are certainly above biases, you're tryin to tell me all three judges were bent or that they didnt see that Ward clearly won the round when all three were in agreement ? You're doing some wild reaching here, carry on its amusing. Do you understand or have any perception of scoring criteria ? There's a 10 year old on YouTube that runs his own boxing channel named Max (MiniMaxBoxing) and he'd school you without even breaking a sweat when it comes to boxing. Go read the first post I made when I signed up, it's a thread. You'll stop arguing with me once you realize I know 100x more about boxing than you do. Check out the thread. I actually understand how everything works at the highest level. Now, I'm being serious when I say that even the most ardent Ward supporters know and claim that he lost round 10, they just didn't know that if they gave Kovalev round 10 Ward would lose on the official scorecards turned in by the NSAC judges (would be 114-113 Kov). The punch count was 28 to 17 in that round, Kovalev. He was also the ring general and effective aggressor. You know, all of that secondary scoring criteria that only matters if a round is too close to call. About 90% of what judges look for is clean, effective punching. You would need to be a genius to score a boxing match if it wasn't. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwxLZ3jv0E8 Ward clearly lost round 10. Get some glasses and learn how to score a boxing match round by round.

Guy cleaned out 168 and then went up in weight to fight an undefeated power puncher at 175. And this was after he begged the 160lb champ who is also a KO artist to come up and fight him. This should all be applauded. He won a close fight vs Kovalev, and he should give him a rematch. It for anyone to say he hasn't been a monster is an idiot. No, he didn't clean out Super Middleweight. He won the Super Six tournament and was the lineal champ, the WBA "Super" & WBC titleholder. He was unified & lineal but he didn't hold the IBF or WBO world titles. If he had "cleaned out" SMW then he would've been undisputed.

again, what does any of that have to do with Ward taming Kova? why don't you post punch stats... start somewhere! Punch stats aren't needed. Fights are scored round by round. All 3 judges gave Ward round 10 which was clearly a Kovalev round. There's no debating that one, even Ward hardcores admit it. If you concede that round then you give Kovalev the fight. The judges got caught grabbing rounds that belonged to Kovalev and gifting them to Ward, not just toss-up/close rounds. The pattern was that obvious in how they scored the second half of the fight. The American establishment, NSAC in this case, got exposed for favoritism (with an All-American ref & judging panel), but they are the most corrupt State Athletic Commission in the world. Do you not keep up with boxing news? I guess not.

That was a clear Ward round, Kovalev looked utterly dejected after that round. Round 10 was a clear Ward round? LOL. Yeah, the same round where we was winding up for a bolo punch and got popped after missing his jab. The judges noticed that for sure and the crowd went silent. You're delusional.

I already considered those WSB bouts to be non-professional and figured everyone else did as well. You independent research gets no credit from me. You figured wrong then. This was posted by an 11 year member here in the NSB forum just a few days ago and he has posted even more recently about Lomachenko's WSB fights and the Fight Fax record-keeping dilemma as to what should be considered professional in the official Fight Fax record books. He and others could really benefit from this information. people need to stop with the 8 fights nonesense though....dude is 28 with 400 am fights and 20 pro fights(fightfax, the official US record keeper and the official record keeper for the World organizations has his record at (18-1 5 KO's) This is his most recent post about it, today. i think he will or should considering his amateur history...those quickest to whatever records are dubious at best though....i still dont get how the media is blatantly ignoring that fightfax is the official record keeper for the US and world organizations... I rest my case.

World title are pretty watered down now tbh. Loma needs better names on his resume than simply picking up titles. Haven't Broner and Guerrero picked up numerous titles across weight divisions? Yes, they are watered down. But you need all 4 major world titles to become undisputed and it's been that way since 2007, so it's been a decade. You can choose from 4 IBHOF-recognized major alphabet world titles (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO) or the minor world title (IBO) that some fighters still carry & rep. Let's not forget The Ring Magazine's "Lineal" world title too, their championship policy is a joke. Loma only has 8 professional fights. Show me a better résumé than his only 8 fights deep. There isn't one. Beating GRJ for the vacant FW WBO title is certainly respectable since Gary went on to become the WBC champ there and was said to have the fastest hands in boxing. He was also a US Olympian and a favorite to medal but never competed because he passed out when trying to make weight. Roman Martinez wasn't anything special but he was 7 pounds heavier come fight night and experienced. Lomachenko moved up to Junior Lightweight and immediately fought for the WBO title. To answer your question, yes. But Broner, for instance, cherry picked his way there. Lomachenko hasn't. Pedraza was the weakest world champion at SFW/JLW when Lomachenko moved up. The guy should've lost to Edner Cherry in their fight.

Much of the boxing public stills hates Floyd far more exponentially than Ward. If Kovalev were to lose shockingly in upcoming fights, it only elevates Ward's game and benefit of the doubt. For Kova, that strategy was as good as it gets. Bhop got dropped, Kova tried. Went 12. How do we compare Ward's performance to Bhop or Chilemba? Day and Night. And lanky krusher had no answers. Red White and Blue. All day all night baby. YDKSAB. Since you forgot, Kovalev also dropped Ward & Chilemba, not just B-Hop. He had Chilemba seriously hurt and B-Hop out on his feet when he was pressing at the end of the 12th. Did you see BLH's poll? Almost 5,700 votes were cast, 72% thought Kov won and 8% thought it was a draw. Only about 1/5 people actually thought Ward edged it. BLH is an American site, to add insult to injury. The media heavily favored Kovalev too as well as the fan vote. Only fanboys suggest that that's the best Kov can look. His answer was flooring Ward only he never should've taken his foot off the pedal.

If they are so patrioting then why all these American celebrities were all routing for Pacquiao? You want me to give you video evidence of that as well? Why these white tv analysts like Max Kellerman not putting pressure on GGG to move up but that same Max putting pressure on Floyd and Crawford to move up? You want video evidence of that? I don't need video evidence to tell you why. It only takes some common sense. Pac is a much more exciting fighter than Floyd, at least when comparing him to "Money May". When Floyd was PBF he was far more exciting because his hands were still good. Kellerman is the exact opposite of a pro-white individual, we'll call it that. Do you even know Kellerman's history? He's been on black D since even before he got his start in journalism and commentary. Back in 1994 he released a gangster rap video with his brother (RIP to him) and rapped about nothing but black and hispanic fighters. You're a fool. Here's a clip of their music video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW-mK5KQ4Pc Here is the full gangster rap song with album cover art, no video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF0DntqwMKg SMH. Noobs.

Rigondeaux gets knocked out early. He isn't a complete fighter. Lomachenko is and he's much more versatile. Anywhere the fight goes Rigo will lose especially on the inside. Rigo has very good defense, an overhand left and a right hook. Not much else. Lomachenko uses both hands from all ranges masterfully with a full punch selection and combinations.