You should make up your mind with what bothers you.... seems likes you're trying to conserve your first sentence, and then insinuate that it should really be about your second sentence.
That type of cowardice is like not moving up in weight and complaining that no one wants to fight you.
YES! because Brook came up to fight GGG, now he must also! This is the rule of the game!
Now dumb biased ****ers like this have another reason to trash GGG.
I'm not even playing you see it all over the internet biased ****ers like this are suddenly telling GGG to move up.
Fuking dumb muther****ers that's why you will be broke as fuk
I wonder how many GGG fans also say that Lewis fairly won his fight with Vitali because he broke his ****ing face to pieces and nearly blinded him?
Interesting that.
Brook was winning the fight on the cards.
Most Vitali fans, a very large portion of whom are also GGG fans, all say that Vitali was winning the fight on the cards (by one measly round), despite his face literally falling off and it';s somehow a 'win' for him.
Stop being such whiny hypocritical cunts you bunch of girls.
GGG won the fight. Agreed. He won it fairly as much as Lewis won it fairly. Suck it.
I had to rent out a hotel room to watch that fight because I didn't have HBO when that fight happened, so I guess you can call me a Vitali fan. Weird enough, I like Lewis more now that I realized how skilled he was for a big man.
As a Vitali fan (back then) I didn't think like what you just described. Of course Vitali's face was ripped open by multiple punches thrown by Lewis. If you deny this you don't know boxing/fighting.
Lewis won fair and square BUT my complain back then was that Vitali COULD HAVE fought a couple more rounds (although Lewis would have had the better of him due to the momentum and injury he caused).
The difference between Vitali's CUT and Brook's BROKEN eyesocket is that the latter can cause PERMANENT vision problems.
Lewis did lose the first four or five rounds of that fight and was starting to get the rhythm before the stoppage. If the fight went on he most likely would have won anyways.
FYI I am neither black nor Soviet so I am coming from a very unbiased angle.
http://www.mmaforreal.com/2010/2/26/1327257/is-fedor-emelianenko-pulling-a
M-1's Apy Echteld said that they were interested in fighting Overeem, however they would not fight unless Overeem was drug tested leading up to the fight. In response, Martijn de Jong from Overeem's team expressed his belief that Fedor deserves a shot at this Strikeforce title, and that they look forward to a potential fight.
Person in question
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii224/9ho1oha1/mma/Overeem-Timeline.jpg
Overeem went from skinny 205 lber at 6'5 to a 255 pound strong heavyweight in a matter of couple years. Anyone who thinks he doesn't juice might as well think pro bodybuilders are natural.
http://i44.tinypic.com/wqsx2b.jpg
Look at this dude. Pac is a WW.
No, they have to feed him constantly and they still can't make it to 147. Real WW have to cut to make it to 147. Pacquiao has to eat up to get to 147. Pac's best weight is 140 as evidenced with his performance against Hatton. His power is the best and he can take all 140lbers punches easily.
Just somethings I observed from the video:
-Clottey works on almost zero footwork during padwork. Contrast that with Pac/Roaches constant emphasis on in and out movement and constant moving after throwing combinations, Clottey just stands still and throws punches from one spot with minimal head movement.
-His hands are decently fast, but they are mostly arm punches. He doesn't put much hip/body into his punches. Also, his mitt work looks more impressive than it is because his trainer is hitting his gloves very hard. Look how hard his trainer is working. When you see Roach holding mitts, he doesn't accomodate the puncher so the punch sounds nice and shiit. If you don't throw a perfect punch with Roach, its going to look/sound crappy.
-His double end bag and heavy bag work is not very impressive from that video. It could be that the video only contains light work, but if the intensity isn't much higher than that in other times, that is not much bag work compared to Pac.
-I like how Clottey wraps his own hands just like Pac.
Not talking down Clottey, I'm sure this is still going to be a tough fight for Pac (hopefully not too tough), but just some thigns I observed from watching that video.
He was an ATG before he even fought at 147. Most people on this forum started following him in 2007. He was boxing 11 years before that.
You using that gif (showing martinez getting hit when williams took the beating that night) as your sig really shows how biased you are.
Pac-hatton did NOT break a million in the USA. Arum was giving the Worldwide numbers which are over a million.
Apples-to-apples, please.
apples to apples? of course when both fighters biggest followers are outside the US they are going to have more international numbers.
BTW I believe the Philipines show the fights on regular TV for free. Which means those PPV numbers are only Britain and USA. If Filipinos had to pay Pac fight the numbers could easily top 3-4 million.
mayweather is a pussy. he would go to any lengths to avoid fighting a live body just like how he made excuses when margarito and cotto called him out. Or how how he made marquez come up 3 weight classes to fight him.
what a pussy...
As much as I hate Gayweather, I don't think he's ducking the fight. He's just too arrogant to think that Pac has a chance to beat him. He's just doing it to mess with Pac's mind and try to have some sort of advantage leading up to the fight. Not to mention a excuse if he does lose. Or maybe he really is trying to rig the testing.
They're all just trying to pressure Manny into signing the contract now. They can see that they've got him stuck between a rock and a hard place so they're moving in for the kill.
wtf.... yea Mayweather's bitchass asking manny to ge tested under Olympic amatuer rules is really "going in for the kill".....
somebody throw thsi fukker in teh oven
Why are some (most) Pac fans against top Drug testing in the Steroids era :no: No matter how people spin it, someone not willing to take top drug test in this era will always come out looking wrong in the end.
Why can't some (most) Gayweather fans understand that the problem is not about Pac taking the test but the ridiculous request that he should be tested under Olympic drug testing rules.
btw are you fuking stupid? When did Pac ever saying he WON'T get test. He won't get test under Olympic rules. Don't fuking change the wording you piece of shiet.
1. At least he still says "My next opponent", which is good.
2. He didn't "almost wipe out Marquez" - rather, Marquez nearly wiped him out twice.
1. Both his fights against Marquez were close. Thats a fact.
2. The fact that you dispute this fact by saying Marquez "wiped HIM out" shows how biased you are.
Floyd mayweather SR. moved up from 130-154
De La Hoya moved up from 130-160
Leonard from 147-168
Duran 135-160 *168 wasn't a good weight for him*
Hearns 147-168
ETC. ETC. its goes and goes in history
Look at LHW in history that moved up from 175 Pds to 200 pds
So Pacquiao moved up from 112-147 and he is ON STERIODS??? lol pathetic if you think that. I guess all the other fighters in history is on steriods too. Plus Bruce Lee, Plus Anderson Silva, Plus Kobe Bryant, Plus Lebron, Plus Tiger Woods, etc. etc.
Yup, not only that Pacquiao really moved up from 120s to 147. He was 112 when he was a malnurished teenager who barely ate enough.
RA - Well I think the people that pay attention to the sport can see through it easily. If they pay attention to what really goes on to the history of the sport like no fighter in the history of the sport never had to go through all of these demands before. Nobody ever had to take these blood tests like this- this amount. No fighter had to ever deal with this before. In the history of boxing, Trinidad and Dela Hoya didn't have to do it. Lewis-Tyson didn't have to do it. Manny Pacquiao's 50 other something opponents didn't have to do it. Mayweather's 40 other opponents didn't have to do it. So if you follow the sport, this is just like Floyd ducking and dodging tactics, trying to get into Pacquiao's head and discredit him. People that pay attention to the sport can see through it. BUT the mainstream media will go 'Oh it's a simple test. Why don't Manny just take the test?' They don't understand that you gotta get blood drawn out of you 48 hours before the fight and outside your will and disruptive of the training camp when 'Who the fcK is Floyd Mayweahter?' Is he supposed to be the commission? He's not the commission. He's just another fighter. So why should the champion- Pacquiao- have to do whatever Mayweather's people say he has to do? So if I'm Pacquiao, Imma say F*** off to these guys too. BUT the mainstream media will go 'Well if he has nothing to hide then why just not take the test?' It's not just a test. He's willing to take blood right the second he finishes the fight. The minute after he finishes the fight against Mayweather he's willing to take the test in his locker room. He's willing to take blood (tests) two other times. He's willing to take urine (tests) at will. The man is willing to take 3 blood tests. Now if that's not good enough, then Manny fights somebody else or Mayweather go fight somebody else..."
"You know what's funny? When this fight was moving forward supposedly around a month ago, a lot of my friends were going, you know RA, Floyd's not gonna fight Pac Man. The way he walked through Cotto's shots, he's not gonna fight Pac Man"
Great effing comment, especially the parts in bold are facts in favor of Pac. This should be quoted and posted every time it needs to be posted.
Thats all B.S. nobody cares if Pacquiao weight drains his opponents (De La Hoya, Cotto,etc. ) and they ask for no excuses, yet they keep making excuses for Pacquiao.
How can it be o.k for other fighters to perform better weight drain, but if Pacquiao takes off some little blood it effects him.
Pacquiao is able to be better now that he's bigger, but De La Hoya and Cotto are suppose to be better when they're thinner? Pacquiao has improve much more now than when he was supposedly starving, but its o.k for others to starve and still be better. If Pacquiao was the same fighter he was before he would of lost, but he some how is better because he's stronger while others become weaker and are asked to still be strong. Thats all Hipocrisy I say. If losing blood effected him it could have effected Morales and can effect others too. Fighters should all take these olympic test so fights can be as fair as possible.
are you fuking stupid? oh wait, your username is floyd something. dont answer that
DLH purposely came underweight so he coudl use the weight drain thing as an excuse.
who the fuk said Cotto was weight drained? Did he himself say that?
If my m memory serves me correctly most people on this board were saying Cotto doesn't look weight drained at all but looked much stronger than he did in previuos figths (ie Clottey). are you fuking kidding me? now he was weight drained that he lost?
come here and let me crack you skull open.
Laughing my ****ing ass off. Going by this, then BOTH fighters would be weakened. Garbage article, failed thread. Log off.
There was no BALCO during then but the first experimental steroids were being developed in the 20s.
wow the ignorance again.... gtfo with that simple comeback argument.
is your reading comprehension on par with mayweather sr? Pac's strengths is is phsyical strength and conditioning, Mayweathers is is skill.
everytime some idiot on this board tries to defend mayweather jr and accuse pac, I can't help but get this overwhelming feeling of hatred. I cannot help but want to serisouly hurt these f@ggots who are probably just as indigified cowards in real life.
And what would they be paying with??
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There are 90 million people in the Philipines. Even though its a poor country, there would still be enough people who can afford a PPV of Manny Pacquaio which is only a event that happens few times a year.
you dont know what he does under the table
like waht? sell crack with fifty on the street corner? yea, thats going to make him the other $150 mil. :rolleyes:
LOL @ the Tiny Pinoys comparing worldwide numbers for this fight to USA numbers for every other fight.
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Correct me if im wrong, but aren't Pac's fights broadcast on free TV in Philipines? Then the numbers aren't even close to what they would be if they had to pay to watch him.
i dont think any boxer is worth as much as Oscar as far as bank account goes. hell, oscars one of the riches athletes period
right, that's why im wondering why Floyd Jr. goes around saying he's worth a couple hundred million when that is what Oscar is about worth.
who said crack..we dont know what this man has nor should we be concerned..just know its more than we have
so what?
why you worried about his money? Is he late on your child support or something?
why are ya'll so concerned about his bank account??
It's not uncommon or wrong for people to discuss celebrities worth, money, etc. In fact its actually common thing people do. I'm sure you one of you guys have discussed or thought about how much some other celebrity is worth.
And its not just that, Floyd has stated numerous times that he is worth a couple hundred million. From the records of his boxing PPV which is his main source of income, it appears that he is exaggerating quite a bit about his net worth. So there is nothing wrong with discussing this.
Who knows what else floyd has going on?
The guy made alot of money and he aint stupid,
he could of easily invested that shit who knows?
And what the fcuk does it matter anyway???
He could have easily invested that shit? Obviously you don't know anything about investing and you think its such a easy thing to do. Don't try to talk about something you have no clue about.
btw I really need to get fuk off this forum. I think I'm losing more brain cells than getting knocked the fuk out by trying to reason with guys that talk like the above.
Mayweather has beaten far bigger and better fighters than either, but I guess he feels the need to expose these two guys as posers to his crown.
Like who?
Oscar was over the hill when he fought Floyd Jr. too. Then who?
look at the vid on how David Blaine neutralize Kimbo Slice Power Punch
what do u think?
Anyone with good abs knows taking a punch from straight forward while you are fully flexing your abs and completely aware of when the punch is coming is nothing extraordinary.
I DONT AGREE WITH YOU... THIS IS FOR ALL THE MARBLES.. and will seal pacquaio's legacy as the one of the greats if he beats mayweather..
if he loses to mayweather then it's mayweather's legacy that is sealed..
the bigger the risks, the greater the reward..
He doesn't need to fight Floyd to get there. He can do it by beating mosley or Cotto, although those are both tall tasks.