I took a little digging about this mysterious judge and a quick search turned out that she really had a history of corruption. This wasn't the first time she pretended she didn't know how to score a fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ZFTZ8oxI0
Gotta get those built in excuses ready. They can always use the opposite shoulder excuse though...
Bet big money between rounds 8-10 stoppage by Spence. There will be nothing left of Manny. I predicted it way earlier and Manny's camp is just now slowly realizing it. It should be too late already.
Why is Spence letting the senior citizen carry all the promotion.
Yes Keith Thurman at least trash talks to promote the fight. I used to think Pacquiao does not help the promotion because he doesn't trash talk. Turned out he's more than that, he actually carries the promotion by creating a sort of reality TV atmosphere in social media where people can follow his training live.
Is there any superstar boxer in the history where you can keep following while he trains wide open to the public day by day? Most of them train in secluded area, I've seen some footage of Sugar Ray Robinson in public training but I'm not sure if it's any similar to what Manny does. Oscar Dela Hoya also trains in seclusion in Big Bear.
We can no longer get rid of them now, but we can try to bargain.
I suggest that the most vocal sanctioning body would offer to all existing bodies to hire someone powerful and influential with some boxing roots like Donald Trump (think of Dana White in UFC) as a chairman for all the sanctioning bodies to create uniform rules and hierarchy for all bodies.
Then once every 4 years, create a cooperated ultimate tournament, call it Mortal Kombat or whatever that will pit each champ of each sanctioning body at their respective weight. The combined prize money for each sanctioning bodies is so great that every boxer dreams on reaching this ultimate tournament once in their career. But you have to be the man--the champion of a particular sanctioning body in order to qualify to represent them. That means that only the current champions of WBA, WBO, IBF, WBC respectively is qualified to represent this ultimate tournament to determine who is going to be the spiritual king of that particular weight, but the loser of this special tournament still gets to keep their rank as a champ for their respective sanctioning body after the tournament is over (you mustn't get rid of their champ or else sanctioning bodies will never cooperate). This special tournament will be the true world cup of boxing that will run for a couple of weeks or maybe a few months in Pay Per View.
So the agenda of having a boxing champ for each sanctioning body is still there (you can't get rid of this, otherwise sanctioning bodies will never cooperate), and that makes the bargaining and cooperation easier for all the parties.
With this, boxing fans will get their true people's champ at each weight division by the end of the tournament and a much more clear hierarchy in boxing. There are no particular abhorrent change for the sanctioning bodies that will affect their income, but these 4 sanctioning bodies will become even more powerful as they try to merge into one. It's safe to say that they can bully whomever new sanctioning body wishes to enter the current boxing business. We can't really get rid of them, but we can put a halt to future addition of sanctioning bodies.
Ugas definitely has the height and reach advantage.
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Have you seen those monstrous frame of Ugas? Everything of those will be filled out tomorrow. We will see a mountain of a man on fight night. May boxing gods help little Pacquiao.
Definitely can't wait until post fight!! Don't erase the thread!
Tomorrow, Manny will be a prey for an apex predator like Ugas. You've never seen Pacquiao much in the back foot in a long time, not this time, you'll see him tomorrow fighting like that for most of the fight.
In those videos, he could be saying suck my carrot Freddie lol
You know body shots affect legs don't you lol , be like saying hey Freddie he is hitting me in the jaw and my neck aches.
The cramp began at the end of the first round. After round 3, Buboy asked him about it. There are details in the video.
The one that will trigger this event is when Vergil was allowed to fight one of the big 3.
OR
Vergil Ortiz miraculously got a golden ticket to fight Manny Pacquiao himself. Vergil name grows bigger, one of the big 3 gets an interest and then goes on and on.
Rocky Marciano can come back from the dead and say Paulie Malignaggi actually has power. Malignaggi has shown otherwise in the ring.
Evidence suggests Ugas is more than likely to not score any KD’s or KO’s at the top level. He is more likely to go the distance at the top level.
I feel like he should have scored a KO vs Figueroa, where he threw nearly 1k punches at a guy with poor defense. I also did not feel Ugas sas very accurate in that fight, landing at 28% vs a come forward fighter.
Ugas is a good fighter but Pacquiao is a couple of levels above the best names on Ugas resume. Robbery or not. Pacquiao is better.
I do still think it will be a good fight and a challenge to Pacquiao, stylistically, to a certain extent (several rounds). Until Pacquiao adapts and realizes the guy is no JMM.
That was probably his d-game. Ugas a-game is a fight against Porter. Come what may he needs to bring his a-game to Pacquiao in this fight.
We'll see in Aug. 21 if Erik Morales is rightfully worried for Pacquiao. One thing is for sure, Ugas will give a war to Pacquiao, it's gonna be really good while it lasted. He's gonna bring back cuban boxing pride after the subpar performance from Rigo just a week ago or at least die trying.
If there's too much damage for Pacquiao in this fight, Manny might just retire for good. He knows his number is almost up so he really wanted to pass the torch to Spence.
How many times have we heard manny’s leg cramping excuse….? Every time a fight didn’t go his way. A week before the fight he was destroying sparring partners and releasing training videos that supposedly made Spence piss in the bed. Now all of sudden during the fight his legs cramp up or was it from those body shots?
Do you think Pacquiao is lying to his coaching staffs when he said he had cramps in that video?
Have we proven that this guy is lying when he said he was cramping during Shane Mosley fight as well? I think reporter asks an update about the fight and he answers them. His cramp appears whether he wins or he losses. I think he is just updating his status to the public through reporters.
I see Ugas as the tougher fighter than Spence. Shawn Porter clearly lost to Ugas while Porter gave pre-crash accident Spence a life and death experience so I see Urdenis Ugas as the toughest of the three! :cool2:
We might probably see Pac fight more in a back foot in a long time. Fans just don't know yet that this fight is just as good as if Pacquiao is fighting Thurman, Porter, Crawford or even Spence.
Ugas is a very high quality fighter and this is his time to prove it. Unlike Rigondeaux, this time brace yourself, be ready to be entertained and witness the real warrior cuban style of boxing.
The first thing I noticed is Manny's body its definitely showing age he didn't have abs an overall softness to him.
I agree. He lost a lot of muscle muscle mass due to age.
Laugh of the day :439: He got plenty of toe to toe and blood and guts against Jeff Horn but couldn't handle it and neither could his fans. The amount of bullship around Pacquiao just never ends, no wonder lots of real boxing fans avoid him.
Yup he was going toe to toe with Jeff Horn and he can handle it. Horn was hospitalized after that fight.
Who was the fake cuban devil?
His first name starts with a "G" and his last name is R____________x He said he's going to be the devil in that fight but turned out as Prince Valium.
WTH...What you said make Zero Sense!! Ugas was the nervous one and understandable so. But Manny is always chilled, another day at the office! He wanted SPENCE!
My observation. Manny can't stare at him even for a minute and he look away first. He wanted to soften Ugas by smiling at him constantly but Ugas is not having it by maintaining his steely demeanor.
Ugas injected something in his bicep maybe for weight issues. It's nothing major, just a swelling. If you've been injected before sometimes when it's not done right it swells. It's not a fracture or anything. No worries whatsoever.
I hope it’s a good fight.
I don’t see why it wouldn’t be. Pac is a legend but he’s like 42 and Ugas is seemingly in his prime and highly regarded.
I reluctantly pick Manny by Decision.
As an old school warrior, Manny Pacquiao has said numerous times that he missed toe to toe fights badly, he missed the pain--the smell of blood everywhere just like the old times. Well, he can get that in this fight plenty.
Yeah Manny about to cry....
The stare down is the beginning of the end for Manny. He showed weakness to a killer like Ugas. Tomorrow Yordenis will be the apex predator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CDMdoYHUa8
Erik Morales gave a big sigh--reveals he knows Ugas very well, he said Ugas is a very high quality fighter and that he's very worried for Pacquiao because Ugas' biggest weapon is really dangerous for Manny.
Reaching for the stars, he wasn't over trained he wasn't in cramp he is 42 and not good enough to beat the top WWs, they all have the same eroding of form happen sooner or later stop trying to make excuses for the biggest excuse maker in history.
all videos working now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT0b3MHCKlE
Ugas' Coach brimming with confidence: He said he already beat Manny Pacquiao back in 1997 with his Thai fighter. He knows exactly how to beat him.
It will be stylistically difficult. I pick Pacquiao by decision because I have never seen Pacquiao have much issues with weak punchers.
Mayweather is a different story. He's not a big puncher but he is great at literally everything else you need to be great at in order to overcome your weak power.
But Pacquiao usually is a tornado vs weak punchers. Look at how Bradley, Algieri, Vargas, all struggled with him despite being bigger and younger. He had no care in the world because he could take their punches with ease, and they could not really take his.
Erik Morales is assuming that Ugas has more than sufficient pop for a little guy like Manny and he knew Ugas is stylistic nightmare for Pac. So there will be lots of accurate punches coming for Manny. He might be done after the fight.
I assume he meant Guillermo Rigondeaux.
If my memory serves me correctly, before the Casimero fight, Rigondeaux told the media, and I’m paraphrasing: Casimero will have a Devil in front of him tonight.
Yup. But he turned out as Prince Valium though.
Pacquiao was clearly uncomfortable, he even surprised Ugas with how quick he turned away. It’s either the no eyebrows thing or Pacquiao hasn’t been able to flick the switch yet. Ugas is ready.
hahaha i didn't think about that, but it could be true, a man without an eyebrow is probably something of a curiousity and and may have spook Manny. This is probably how they plan to intimidate Pacquiao.