When guys get as old as he has all the excuses that were never there before appear.
Manny should retire as anyone should who are in big money fights but won't fight the best.If ever there's a good reason to suggest a once great fighter retires then this is it.
Making excuses for years. Who can forget the cheap socks excuse
No I do not dislike him , I dislike.Abel and never believed he was great based on his 10 year resume. I don't believe in leprechauns I don't believe in mermaids I do not believe in unicorns and I never believed in GGG !! But I guess you did !
What accomplishment the guy has.never ventured out of comfort zone to be great. 10 years of beating average fighters in the same.weight division Fights two above average fighters Jacobs and Canelo. Gets robbed in first Canelo fight, loses but gets gift decision vs Jacobs. Insists Canelo fight him and not run and runs his a$$ off and gets backed up the majority of the 2nd fight. Over rated bully got bullied
Manny has yet to fight anyone capable of hitting him with power him post JMM. All his oppwnents have been old, slow light hitting or not true welterweights. Retire or fight real opponents. Money issues due to being stupid. He can only blame himswlf for resigning with Arum. Now a 40 year old slightly above averge free agent fighter
Do the same with Pacquiao same criteria include coming off loss in last 1-2 fights, moving up in weight or catch weight, opponent moving down in weight they have not fought in for years, newly created belt and if fought less threatening, rated champ at that given time and wow us all.
JMM broke him . was fighting light hitting bums (Bradley no bum but light hitting) and took Horn lightly thought he was an Algieri type and got mauled. Too old to turn on the energy switch.
I'm tired of all the bullsht out there and all the hype trains (Spence, Crawford, Loma).
The best record (quality, quantity) in boxing is Canelo (def not Crawford):
Baldomir
Mosley
Cintron
Lil Cotto
Big Cotto
Lara
Trout
Chavez Jr
Kirkland
Kahn
Smith
Golovkin (Draw)
Mayweather (Loss)
For sure, some were washed up fighters, some decisions were close fights (that's what happens when you're not fighting average opposition)
Hell, even Danny Garcia got a better record than most guys on current P4P list.
Seems like once a fighter take a L he's not in the mix anymore.
Crawford has no business being called a P4P with his resume needs Spence, Thurman or Garcia. Loma. Is. One big fight win over Mikey Garcia.
Forgot about Fighting Morales right after Rahim destroyed him. Fought the lesser of the Diaz to win a title. Avoided Edwin Valero. You can literally make a comment to each of his opponents after JMM 1. Greatest of smoke and mirrors. All time greatest padded resume ever. Kudos to Arum
But not the best welterweight champion. Still the best Cherry Picker of all-time. Unlike Mikey Garcia who is fighting Spence at the official weight class not catch weight BS. Pacquiao ATG * asterisk
Does not exist because he refused testing. Pac supposedly was afraid of needles until JMM put him to sleep. Then he became a VADA spokesman. Too late for son to take up boxing he will be put to sleep very early once he fights a good hungry poor Mexican fighter. Another Pac dud replacement that never pans out. Like Ugly Boy Jerwin Ancajas who actually lost to Barrios and was gifted a draw.
Dude I should sue you for slander :)...but in all seriousness
I said that imo GGG stopping Lemieux and Murray in dominating fashion was more impressive than Canelo going 12 with an old shot fat Cotto (no disrespect to him...but that was not a prime Miguel Cotto)...and beating Lara 7-5.
Of those 4 wins I think it is reasonable to say the Lara win was the best...but GGG's wins were much more impressive against his opponents...and the truth is that those 4 guys are all roughly at the same level at the time of the fight vs their respective opponents.
I also already listed like 5 times the 6 guys who I felt Canelo wouldn't necessarily KO that GGG did...and I said imo one of those 6 very possibly could have beaten him...I also said I would probably favor Canelo in all 6 of those fights...but I think one or maybe more out of those 6 could have given him a really tough fight and could have won.
I mean it was just my opinion lol...I wasn't really slighting Canelo at all...but for some reason you really seem to take any critique of Canelo very very seriously lol...you are the UK's biggest Nelo fan :)
And btw just because I have an opinion about Nelo or GGG doesn't mean you have to get all in your feelings all the time...you and a few other guys get so emotional about them lol...it's not like you have to take the Canelo posters down in your house just because I think Canelo may have struggled in a match vs one of GGG's opponents...just breath it will be OK :)
Deviating from post. Just saying unless they have common opponents its BS to assume .plus even common opponents its tricky because v it depend on where they were in their careers when they fought.
ODLH is bad example 10 years removed from fighting at that lower weight. Not a spectacular feat. More of a spectacular miscalculation by ODLH. Pacs biggest wins all have * next to them as they were coming off big losses. Margarito had just been KO'd by Mosely. Mosley was just old when they fought coming off draw with Mora and loss to Mayweather. Raheem destroyed Morales before their 2nd / 3rd fight. Clottey had just lost to Cotto. Vargas one fight removed from losing to Bradley. Rios had just lost to Alvarado. Cotto 2 fights removed from Cheatarito clubbing him into submission. Oscar Larios has just been KO'd by Israel Vazquez. Hatton 2 fights removed from being KO'd by Mayweather. See Terence is getting that hall of fame promotion Pac got. Why does anyone not point out how blatant and unflattering Pac's cherry picking record is. Fought guys on their decline or coming off a brutal loss, with limited lateral movement, and if they had any power at a catch weight.
Is this boogeyman really race based? Seems like almost every reference to boogeyman is a black fighter that hasn't fought anyone of merit or only fought below to average opponents ( fights they're supposed to win) Hunter couldn't win vs his two best opponents.
The most idiotic post . Anyone that knows boxing knows May 5 (Cinco de Mayo and Sept 15 (Mexican independence Day) are top dates for large mexican viewing base. Even Mayweather fights on these dates. Your hate makes you look stupid