I am guessing it was because his team wanted the Floyd Mayweather fight and he had to be clean when that came around? I would say November 2011, the third fight with Juan Manual Marquez, was the first time Manny suddenly looked beatable. This after years of moving up in weight and destroying everyone of any relevance.
I personally am in no doubt that Pacquiao used PEDs. I also believe he may still be. However he definately lessened his dosage or something, stopped taking so many. Since November 2011 to now Manny has gone 6-4 (0 KO). From 2008 to 2011 is the suspect period.
I once read a really well written, well put together, evidence based article into how, Pacquiao, Floyd (especially) and loads of other top boxers at the time were juicing, and their various ways to try and cover it up.
Unfortunately I was an alcoholic in active addiction at the time so me trying to find it now, well there's not much chance tbh.
Personally I believe Pacquiao juiced, Floyd juiced, Marquez definitely juiced, well I could go on and on, Spence also definitely looks like he has juiced at some point.
Hopefully something will be done regarding stricter tests especially on the new ways that people find to cheat, it's not like racing a bike where you win or lose you could basically kill somebody in boxing.
I am guessing it was because his team wanted the Floyd Mayweather fight and he had to be clean when that came around? I would say November 2011, the third fight with Juan Manual Marquez, was the first time Manny suddenly looked beatable. This after years of moving up in weight and destroying everyone of any relevance.
I personally am in no doubt that Pacquiao used PEDs. I also believe he may still be. However he definately lessened his dosage or something, stopped taking so many. Since November 2011 to now Manny has gone 6-4 (0 KO). From 2008 to 2011 is the suspect period.
Did you ever caught him?
In a nuttshell. Is it hard to fathom that there are people who have athletic genes that seperates the men from the boys. Pac is an athletic specimen just as Jordan was in his athletic abilty to do what others can't on a basketball court. Just as Usian bolt is faster in running while others can't.
In other words, the biggest compliment you can give an athlete is, 'HE MUST BE JUICING BECAUSE HE IS TOO GOOD TO BE ALL NATURAL'
It only shows that what he did was so great. That only someone with PEDs can do that.. When the truth is, it's just great genetics. A one in a million kind of athlete that comes once in a lifetime. Saying Pac is on PEDs is paying homage to what he accomplished is truly Legendary that the haters will always say he did the impossible coz he is a cheat when to this day there is no evidence he ever cheated in the long years of being blood tested and urine Tested throughout his stellar career.
NO low TE ratios, No TUEs, NO IVs sticking out, No vampire facials, No evidence pointing to a cheat..
It's only good Genetics found in great athletes.
Case closed.
This is why nobody really thinks floyds best of era. Floyd has best defence. Nothing more
It was pac doing things your not supposed to be doing.
However he definately lessened his dosage or something
Like you were his personal physician. I'm supposed to take your word for it and believe he blitzed his through eight division because of PEDs?
In a nuttshell. Is it hard to fathom that there are people who have athletic genes that seperates the men from the boys. Pac is an athletic specimen just as Jordan was in his athletic abilty to do what others can't on a basketball court. Just as Usian bolt is faster in running while others can't.
In other words, the biggest compliment you can give an athlete is, 'HE MUST BE JUICING BECAUSE HE IS TOO GOOD TO BE ALL NATURAL'
It only shows that what he did was so great. That only someone with PEDs can do that.. When the truth is, it's just great genetics. A one in a million kind of athlete that comes once in a lifetime. Saying Pac is on PEDs is paying homage to what he accomplished is truly Legendary that the haters will always say he did the impossible coz he is a cheat when to this day there is no evidence he ever cheated in the long years of being blood tested and urine Tested throughout his stellar career.
NO low TE ratios, No TUEs, NO IVs sticking out, No vampire facials, No evidence pointing to a cheat..
It's only good Genetics found in great athletes.
Case closed.
Huh? Kind of contradicting yourself a little bit.
Just a little.
Bit you're a stupid pact@rd so I expect nothing less.
shane mosley never failed a test
lance armstrong never failed a test
lmao if youre so naive as to think most boxers arent on peds.
Pac probably never quit peds.
PAC doesn't even take test. Lol.
But when he does do random blood testing, I'd bet he has a losing record and ZERO KOs.
Lol.
shane mosley never failed a test
lance armstrong never failed a test
lmao if youre so naive as to think most boxers arent on peds.
Pac probably never quit peds.
Maybe he cheated maybe he didn't, but boxing as a whole needs to catchup with other sports. Look at athletics, where there is talk of records being scrapped before Biological passports came in, now i am not saying fight should scrapped, but boxing does not even have Biological passports and the retesting of blood.
So yes if Manny did cheat, emerging tests can retest his blood in the future, same applies to Floyd and anyother fighter.
Also look at the TUE controversy surrounding Bradley Wiggins (cyclist), and his team questioned by MPs and the investigation going on. Floyds situation gets swept under the carpet, its pitiful
Real question should be, "Why did Mayweather kept using peds?"
Answer: USADA.
Hate all you want with ped accuse threads you ****ing haters, but one thing is certain for 23 years the legend was never tested positive nor had any issues with drug testing.
The legend didnt had I.V., and tainted meat excuses in his camp for 23 years, you all die hating *******s:boxing:
Got a better question where's you proof of a timeline that proves pacquaio started taking drugs from this time to that time.
It's all conjecture and not very rooted in truth at all.
Any proof to all this? i mean atleast some smoke like a failed test maybe? Or hiring a chemist like memo who laughed at all boxing testings? An iv issue?
Suffered against marquez in 08
Beat slow af diaz in 08
Beat a weight drained dlh in 08 credit goes to him because he was like a 200-1 underdog
Beat a hatton who walk to him with both hands down in 09
Beat a cotto without a trainer and who he’s stylistically a nightmare to
Beat clottey who was too scared to let his hands go
Beat margarito by boxing beautifully but got hurt with a single punch to the body
Beat old azz mosley
Suffered again against marquez
Begins to slow down because he’s now 32 at this point
So pac has no prime?? 28-32 is not the peak years of a fighter???
Now which part made you believed he’s on peds??
pacquiao never tested positive in all of his entire boxing career. Its not pacquiao's fault that most people in the boxing world have inferior genetics that they need to rely on steroids just to get an upperhand anything incredible feats is considered as doping these days without evidence.
In a nuttshell. Is it hard to fathom that there are people who have athletic genes that seperates the men from the boys. Pac is an athletic specimen just as Jordan was in his athletic abilty to do what others can't on a basketball court. Just as Usian bolt is faster in running while others can't.
In other words, the biggest compliment you can give an athlete is, 'HE MUST BE JUICING BECAUSE HE IS TOO GOOD TO BE ALL NATURAL'
It only shows that what he did was so great. That only someone with PEDs can do that.. When the truth is, it's just great genetics. A one in a million kind of athlete that comes once in a lifetime. Saying Pac is on PEDs is paying homage to what he accomplished is truly Legendary that the haters will always say he did the impossible coz he is a cheat when to this day there is no evidence he ever cheated in the long years of being blood tested and urine Tested throughout his stellar career.
NO low TE ratios, No TUEs, NO IVs sticking out, No vampire facials, No evidence pointing to a cheat..
It's only good Genetics found in great athletes.
Case closed.
If it is because of Ariza, well Ariza was hired to work with Floyd. Ariza consulted with Memo Heredia for Floyd's fights.
Floyd then uses BANNED ILLEGAL Method!!!!
USADA suspends another athlete for IV use!!!
Lochte fault was she didn't paid the USADA to give her an exception.
Only proof, off the top of my head, is Freddie Roach's accounts of the shady Ariza shakes.
loooooool those dudes hate each other
If its peds its gotta be blood doping. Shakes aint ****. It’s just gonna show up in your urine.
Ariza even claimed it on air to be supplements. You can search all then articles about it yourself
All these haters downplay pac’s performances during that time but at the same time think he’s on peds?? So which really is it?
When he’s no longer knocking dudes out at 33-38, oh he stopped using peds.
Isn’t it because he’s past his prime?
Marquez 3 fight showed he was just the same manny from 2008. Or he stopped right exactly right there? Loool
What a strange thread that's impossible to answer. As I wasn't aware anyone thought he was on them.
I thought it was floyd who was suspicious withIV gate
Only proof, off the top of my head, is Freddie Roach's accounts of the shady Ariza shakes.
If it is because of Ariza, well Ariza was hired to work with Floyd. Ariza consulted with Memo Heredia for Floyd's fights.
Floyd then uses BANNED ILLEGAL Method!!!!
USADA suspends another athlete for IV use!!!
USADA announced today that Ryan Lochte, of Gainesville, Fla., an athlete in the sport of swimming, has accepted a 14-month sanction for his use of a prohibited method.
A subsequent investigation by USADA, with which Lochte fully cooperated, revealed that Lochte received an intravenous infusion of permitted substances at an infusion clinic in a volume greater than 100 mL in a 12-hour period without a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE).
Intravenous infusions or injections in excess of 100 mL within a 12-hour period received in any other setting require an approved TUE. If a prohibited substance is administered intravenously or via injection, a TUE is necessary for this substance regardless of volume.
Administration of IV infusions over the WADA volume limit, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval.
In situations of medical emergency, a retroactive TUE application pursuant to the International Standard for Therapeutic Use Exemptions is acceptable.
Any proof to all this? i mean atleast some smoke like a failed test maybe? Or hiring a chemist like memo who laughed at all boxing testings? An iv issue?
Suffered against marquez in 08
Beat slow af diaz in 08
Beat a weight drained dlh in 08 credit goes to him because he was like a 200-1 underdog
Beat a hatton who walk to him with both hands down in 09
Beat a cotto without a trainer and who he’s stylistically a nightmare to
Beat clottey who was too scared to let his hands go
Beat margarito by boxing beautifully but got hurt with a single punch to the body
Beat old azz mosley
Suffered again against marquez
Begins to slow down because he’s now 32 at this point
So pac has no prime?? 28-32 is not the peak years of a fighter???
Now which part made you believed he’s on peds??
Only proof, off the top of my head, is Freddie Roach's accounts of the shady Ariza shakes.
You ask why he let Floyd dupe him into not using while Floyd was roided up. It was the Mayweather camp who feared him while he was doping with Ariza you know the protein shake. But look who hired Ariza ? Mr Protein shake when they fought , No other than Floyd Mayweather
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Hey douche Bag the man ask a question I'm giving the answer you don't like it stick a D1ck in your mouth. Neither Floyd or Manny are my hero's both are steroid cheats
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I know one thing? They never found a used up IV in Manny's bathroom!
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