I imagined that lots of times already: Vitali might retire soon. Let's just imagine he would retire next month or in 2013. He is now 41 years old and he already was retired for a few years. I can see him come back in a few years. Maybe both Klitschkos retire in 2013 and suddenly an american heavyweight will dominate again and we got another Tyson. And the american boxing world would say "yeah, during the Klitschko era the competition was garbage but now the heavyweight division is stronger than ever and our new (american) champion (whatever his name is) is fighting tough competition and proving himself against the best."
And then imagine the years pass and the new american champ already has 20 title defences and pple say he is the best ever. And suddenly 6 years have passed and Vitali Klitschko decides to make another comeback. And beats the living hell out of the american champion and beats George Foreman's record as oldest Heavyweight Champion ever. Imagine. I can see it. I can see that happening in the future.
And americans will say about then 47 year old Klitschko: "Vitali is a coward, he waited until our champion was past his prime, only then did he fight him".
LOL
Damn, you've just revealed Klitschko's treacherous plan. Now they have to concoct another cowardly trick.
LOL! Doing a Tyson Fury style uppercut there.
That must the the true technical brilliance of an Olympic gold medalist.
That's Zymin's boxing school secret technique :smashfrea
He must also have the best chin in the world, cuz he didn't budge
No doubt :)
And he is so aggresive, that beating Huck is not enough for him, so he beats himself :burnup:
Interesting interview. Thanks for posting it. Tyson is becoming wiser and I'm just glad for him (though never liked him as a person).
As for Klitschkos, for me their fights are always exciting spectacles - wich is natural because I'm Ukrainian :)
"What will happen to all the Klit Nuthugger Nation When Haye KO's Glass-Jaw Wlad?"
Is it jealousy in this question? If so, author should be careful - unmet desire leads to frustration.
After seeing this I'm sure, he's playing a role there. The only glimpse at the truth is, when he says that this is the one fight he always wanted to have. He's clearly going for the money.
Sure he is. But he is really positive. I wish him a good luck in cruiserweight after his fight with Wladimir.
Does anyone who actually watches boxing think Haye isnt going to get jabbed to death for about 7-9rds before Wlad unloads a right hand and puts him to sleep?
No doubt in this :)
I'm surprised on how many people think haye will win..Its getting really close.Thats cool just didnt think too many people would vote for haye.I was thinking like 10/1 odds on wlad beating haye.Should be a good way to win some points in june..
If those who voted for Haye, put money on it, their numbers would be greatly diminished.
LOL! It's not like your compatriots' (or should I say "comrades'"?) actions aren't well known all over Boxing Scene. I've seen plenty of posts from others about how the "Soviet" bloc blocks people from "their" threads for the sin of not genuflecting at the Klitschko altar and making fun of their Slavic nationalist ideology. If you can't handle it then I'm sure Putin has a website somewhere you can go carp on with like minded people. Personally I think you all have some deep-seated cultural inferiority complex that makes you lash out at "outsiders" that don't share your misery.
Poet
Again you are wrong. You are to quick with insults. Is it because of insecurity? I don't share "slavic nationalist ideology" and I don't think that one race is superior than any other. Putin - idol only for Russians and satellites of Russia. You know, there is not only Russians lives in Eastern Europe. So, before speaking about politics, learn the subject. About my motives to post here - I like boxing and want to practice in English. All is simple - no paranoia needed. But if your posts were analysed by the proffessional psychologist I risk to assume that he would agree with my opinion on you.
What if hopkins were to put on 20lbs to challenge the freak show himself for the WBA title. Who would you have winning?
Why not Pacquiao? ;) Even though I dislike Valuev, I must admit that the difference in weight and reach of hands is to high. Little chances for Hopkins.
Norton tried to "grey" K me :rofl: It's funny how these Soviet goofs all say they hate Communists then act like them and spew the same garbage.
PS. I returned the favor and introduced him to what a "red" K hit was :rofl:
Poet
You deserved disrespect for that post. I see you are don't like to be responsible for your acts or words. You like to insult others using anonimity. Maybe you have some personal problems, maybe you miserable in real life and trying to establish yourself through the internet, I don't know. But don't act like it's some "plot" against you. If you are ignorant and dishonest do not extrapolate YOURS qualities on others.
Here is what he wrote to go with his mighty greyness.-I owe you nothing. But I'm not "alt" whatever you mean by this. But I would not tolerate racist posts and insults from this ignorant scrub - "poet".
Classic tunney!:rofl::rofl:
And here what you wrote: suspect you could well be an alt.prove yourself before shitting on others
Again - I owe you nothing. Before demanding something from me, you must give it to me. And wish to people from former USSR considered "communists" "to hang" is ignorant and only scrub can wrote such as thing.
If it was adressed only for racists is one thing. But "poet" didn't mentioned nothing about racists.
Well, it's that or retire, because he was never coming up to heavy just to be another contender, so yeah, he knows in his heart that he's majorly up against it in this fight, but he thinks he can pull out the KO on Wlad. He's going to give it his best possible shot. You've got to give him a slight chance, at least. If only slight.
You know, if Haye will show all he can against Wladimir I'll start to respect David. Champion deserves good contenders.
LOL It isn't ALL about the dough, though. Haye does genuinely want to be champ - it's about Gold AND Glory.
:popcorn:
Do you really think Haye believes he can defeat Wladimir? There would be no glory for Haye after this fight only money. Only this is certain for him and for this David fights. And who can judge him? Everyone has own idols.
"Hello Wladimir, how are you today" -Haye
"I'm lovely, thanks for asking, and yourself" -Wlad
"I'm splendid. I just finished watching some tapes of your fights. I respect you very much. You are a good fighter" -Haye
"Why thank you, you yourself are a good fighter as well. You've had very good success." - Wlad
"Why thank you. I am looking forward to our fight this summer, I think we will have a lovely time in the ring together." -Haye
"As am I. It will be a honor to be in the ring with a gentleman like you."
:) Unfortunately, you're right, such conversation would not sell the fight nowadays.
If Germany, Valuev would get the decision even if he lost all 12 rounds..
co-sign
And, I fear, in Germany Valuev win even if being knocked out by Hopkins :)
It seems pretty obvious that the most interesting part of the future event is going right now. Fight itself will be one-sided without real chances for Haye.
So, how one, whose only profit would be the share of Setanta broadcasting on England can increase amount of money? Obviously by heating up interest to the fight which he will definetly lose.
Who really cares, what was in the contract and why Haye signed it if there will be no rematch after Wladimir's victory? All this talks about contract, Wlad's "fear" and other nonsense has only one reason - to promote the fight and to earn more money.
Exactly...
He would risk losing a lot of money if he fought in an eliminator with Dimitrenko or Arreola and lost. So he took a shortcut...
But there's often a price people pay for the shortcuts they take in life.
I think this is quite obvious to everyone isn't it?
Fair enough. If you aren't a pan-Slav or hyper-nationialist than my appologies for insinuating that you were. For the record, I happen to LIKE Vitali Klitschko I just don't view him as an ATG or the GOAT as has been claimed in varies posts. Wlad I'm contemptuous of, not of him as a person but of his abilities as a fighter. Likewise, I have been labled anti-British for refusing to acknowledge Lennox Lewis as the best ever: Completely ignoring the fact that I've said on a number of occasions that I'm a Lennox fan. That's the rub: I can be a fan of a fighter without having to claim he's the best ever. My favorite fighter of all-time is Joe Louis but I'm realistic enough to acknowledge that Ali was the greater Heavyweight. I'm a fan without being a BLIND fan. Likewise, to use the chess analogy again, while Anatoly Karpov is my all-time favorite chess player I'm realistic enough to acknowledge Fischer was better. Even Karpov admired Fischer.
So. You aren't a pan-Slav or a hyper-nationalist. That being the case I will undo the red K I gave you as soon as Boxing Scene permits me to do so.
Poet
Ok. Misunderstanding is settled.
It may be sociological phenomena but civilized human beings are supposed to be above such base tribalism. That's what separates us from the animals who run in packs and barbarians who hang in clans and other basic tribal units.
Well, I'm against any idols. But good examples for people is not bad thing. Klitschko, I think, is good enough example.
But don't change the subject! My posts have been clearly directed to the nuthugging Eastern Euro boxing fans who spout their racial supremacist views and tout the Klitschkos as the ATGs, best ever in the most nausiatingly worst posts: Again, for no other reason than the Klitschkos have the right ethnicity. That's just stupid. If I had a bias against ALL citizens of the former Soviet Union than you would have a very hard time explaining my favorite chess player. Want to take a guess who that might be? It happens to be Anatoly Karpov who is about as Russian as you get. Again, my all-time favorite chess player. Want to take a stab at a few other favorite chess players of mine? How about Boris Spassky - Russian. Vasily Smyslov - Russian. Mikhail Tal - Lithuanian. Paul Keres - Estonian. Tigrin Petrosian - Armenian. David Bronstein - Russian. Samual Reshevsky - originally Polish. And just to be REALLY international here's some more favorites: Jose Raul Capablanca - Cuba. Wilhelm Steinitz - Austrian. Adolf Anderson - German. Miguel Najdorf - Argentinian. Any questions?
Be a men and admit that your were wrong.
Poet
To make it plain - I dislike panslavists. It's a new form of Russian imperialism (not really have anything to deal with race - it's Russian political instrument of expansionism). So don't mix me with those guys, please.
My appologies, if your words was directed only for racists. But it's hard to conclude without your explanations. And your hatred to Klitschko is hardly understandable to me. They are good sportsmens and citizens of their country. Not racists, addicts or criminals. Good examples IMO.
Here is the allegedly "racist" post:
Now, is there any mention of race in there? Did I at anytime indicate the Slavs (or anyone else!) were somehow genetically inferior? No. However Norton's buddies make those insinuations all the time about non-Slavs in general and non-whites in particular.
Poet
Do not hide behind the curtain of words. Be responsible for what you are saying. And who are those "buddies" of mine that you mentioned? There are few posters that I know enough and respect in this forum and they certainly are no panslavists and insulting nobody. Your words I'm afraid are as empty as yor head and your heart.
And were any rational human being analyse YOUR posts they may come to the same conclusion I did: You're a tool. Whether or not there are more than simply "Russians" in Eastern Europe is irrelivent: The Eastern Euro posters in NSB nuthug on Eastern Euro fighters for no other reason than they're from Eastern Europe. Period. End of story. I have no use for irrational fandom for any reason least of all the "National Pride" variety. Nuthuggers fear me because I expose their irrational fanatacism and slap their little fan-boi asses all over Boxing Scene for their stupidity. I have no problem calling a moron a moron.
Poet
So, following your "logic" I must dislike Klitschkos only because we are from Eastern Europe and to pleasure you? You know, growth of interest to specific sport in ANY country mostly depends of their sportsmens succes in this "specific sport". I take it your are weak also in sociology and social psychology.
But don't change the subject - your post insults all people from former USSR, not only "nuthaggers", "fan-bois" or other of your "paper enemies".
Be a men and admit that your were wrong. As you wrote in one of your posts - wrong people also have opinions. Don't make me think that not only your opinion were wrong.
I vote for "they will turn against Haye and call him a bum".
But I really want Haye to show all he can in this fight. Tough contenders are good for real champions.
I really don't understand why people would block someone, for criticizing a boxer.
If their being an immature idiot (like most on here), then fair enough, but these guys cry if someone does not rate a certain fboxer, not only that, they "block" them.
Just.... Pathetic.
There was racist post from "poet" - he was not criticizing a boxer but insults whole people from former Soviet Union. He deserved disrespect for that.
I'm watching FNF right now, and Teddy picks Ricky Hatton to win over Manny Pacquiao. Is it a good thing, or a bad thing for Ricky?
Very bad sign for Hatton :( Only chance left to get rid from this curse is to kill warlock (Atlas). Or... well, maybe there is another thing to do - Ricky must pick Teddy in his war against intelligence and common sense! ;)
Well, I (like many others) still didn't convinced that Lewis won that fight with Vitaly. If so, why Lennox was so soon to retire if not afraid of rematch?