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Nope,when Green fought Tyson he passed the test, never floored, never truly hurt. When Ortiz fought Wilder he was hurt, went down and was stopped. Its a case of Ortiz lacking the chin more than anything else. Btw, you know you're replying to me on your other account right? Ooops. Your argument is a circular one. I can just as easily claim that Mitch Green survived against Mike Tyson because Mike Tyson's power was what didn't pass the test. Not because of anything to do with Mitch Green's chin. Mitch Green never faced any other notable power puncher. Whilst Luis Ortiz was stopped by Deontay Wilder because Wilder's power was what passed the test, rather than Ortiz's chin failing.

Amir Khan wasn't knocked down or stopped prior to being knocked out in one round. It doesn't mean he has an iron chin. All decent prospects have a stage in their careers when they havent been stopped or knocked out. So what? When they face a puncher we find out. Ortiz hadn't faced a real puncher at heavyweight until Wilder.Therefore there is no proof he had an iron chin. The ownes is on you to prove it, and you can't. He failed the test when he faced a puncher. Ortiz wasnt a devastating puncher, that's why Malik Scott took him the distance, Scott, who had been stopped by Wilder and Chisora.Also, Ortiz was ill by the time he fought Wilder, he was being treated for high blood pressure. Percentages don't count because if your half way through a career and you havent fought the best yet, or you've faced a lower level of opponent, your percentage will be different to a guy who fought he's whole career, against other top fighters and long past their physical prime. Tyson was a puncher, and Green past the chin test. Green finished he's career never having been knocked down. Ortiz was knocked down by wilder while old and sick it's true. Wilder was knocked down by non puncher Sconier, a poor sign, and hurt by Molina, another poor sign. When he fights a puncher at world class we will find out if he can endure. The signs don't look good for him. Comparing Amir Khan to a heavyweight is a false equivalence fallacy! Nearly everyone at heavyweight can punch with knock out power. But that's not the case in Amir Khan's weight divisions or any of the other lower weight divisions below heavyweight. The fact that Ortiz was never down or stopped in his pro boxing career at heavyweight prior to facing Wilder, is a testament to his chin being proven. Since he survived every other heavyweight opponent (who can all punch with knock out power). Ortiz's chin failed against Wilder because Wilder is the most powerful puncher in history. And also because everyone's chin failed against Wilder's. Therefore, it's not a shame or evidence that Ortiz has a bad chin. That's not even comparable to Mike Tyson who unlike Wilder, has failed to KO / stop many many opponents. Including opponents who were previously stopped or stopped after. This means, someone's chin failing against Wilder isn't as bad as someone's chin failing against a much weaker puncher in Mike Tyson. Since Mike Tyson is practically a feather fist compared to Deontay Wilder! How can you say Mike Tyson is a puncher but Luis Ortiz isn't? Mike Tyson has failed to stop Tony Tucker. A guy who was brutally stopped by Herbie Hide (a blown up cruiser weight). Tyson also failed to stop James Tillis. A guy with 22 losses and a guy who was stopped 3 times before facing Mike Tyson. But you want to claim Ortiz isn't a puncher because he failed to stop only one opponent in Malik Scott? I can name multiple other opponents that Mike Tyson failed to stop. Including opponents who were stopped prior to facing Mike Tyson. Luis Ortiz has stopped top quality boxers too. He demolished and stopped Bryant Jennings. Who even Wladimir Klitschko couldn't even stop. Despite landing his best punches for multiple rounds. Ortiz also stopped Tony Thompson just as, if not more impressively than Wladimir Klitschko. So going by your logic, Deontay Wilder has an absolute iron / granite of a chin. Since he survived against a power puncher in Luis Ortiz by being able to take everything Ortiz dished out for 10 rounds, without even going down once. Thus, Wilder's chin is now at the very least, equal to Mitch Green's. Thus, if Mike Tyson failed to KO / stop Mitch Green, he isn't stopping Deontay Wilder either. That's if we follow your logic! Deontay Wilder's chin is different now, compared to before. Wilder of now, isn't the same as the Wilder from the Sconiers fight where his body was still growing. David Tua was knocked out in the amateurs but never in the pros. Does that mean he has a weak chin, because he was knocked out once in the amateurs whilst he was practically still a kid? Absolutely not! Most boxing fans acknowledge David Tua as someone who has one of the best chins ever!

Somebody is mad their boy Dorticos got KO'd Dorticos exposed Gassiev's overrated and lack of punching power.

I've not said so, anywhere, so thats the end your post's worth. goodbye. luv your huge redline rep bar., btw. see I dont get why some people start a post on a fail like that...they are making it too easy to rebuke them. Okay! Good, that's the reason why I asked you in the first place (GENIUS). I don't know anything about reps, nor do I care. I only care about discussing boxing. Everything else I stated, stands. Old heavyweights like Riddick Bowe or Lennox Lewis stand almost no chance against advanced modern heavyweights like Deontay Wilder. These are mismatches of epic proportions!

I'm getting the point alright. You have a problem with compression. I don't have to prove Ortiz didn't have a great chin, you have to prove he did, since that was the claim, that Ortiz had an "iron" chin. Since he fought nobody comparable to Mike Tyson, who's knockout record, percentage, heavyweight championship fights and highlight reel proves he's a puncher, Ortiz can't claim to have passed the test Green did.Not every heavy punches the same, and some of the best punchers have been under 220 BTW.Yes other fighters have fought bums but only two of Wilders opponents were vaguely top ten, one had been stopped by a nobody and one was suffering from an illness. At the point Audley Harrison was entering round one against Sprott, he'd never been dropped either. Has he got an Iron chin? No, of course not, level of opposition matters, and Deontays is very low, but Ortiz was also very low. Molina taking Deontay late proves he's not a superman. You saw what AJ did to the same guy right? Luis Ortiz was never dropped or stopped in his pro boxing career before fighting Wilder. Ergo, that's enough proof of him having a solid chin. Since in the heavyweight division, pretty much everyone can punch with knock out power. What are you going to say about Deontay Wilder's chin then? Since he fought Luis Ortiz, who is a renown knock-out artist with a 75%+ knock out record. And since Wilder survived against this knock out artist that is Luis Ortiz without even going down, despite taking some hard punches? The main question is, how do we know how good Mitch Green's chin is COMPARED to Luis Ortiz? Since Green never fought a puncher like Deontay Wilder who has stopped every opponent he has faced in his career and has a 95%+ KO record? And Mike Tyson isn't comparable to Deontay Wilder. Since his KO record is nowhere close to Wilder's.

Nah, it's you that cherry picks. Mitch Green and Ellis ate flush punches from Tyson and went the distance with him, but instead of it being that Tyson's power was exposed it's that they have iron chins. Green would get stopped the very next fight and Ellis had been stopped like 2x before. That is the problem, your logic and standards get flipped. Chavez Jr. is a perfect example of how people's standards get flipped, all logic goes out the door. Most of his opponents were flat out BUMS. How many modern day fighters could be fighting 6-2, 9-4, etc. journeymen 10 years into their careers and not be criticized? Old time fighters get a pass, the standards are lowered and they're made into the unbeatable machines. Tyson Fury was out of shape most of his career, the fat version would've lost to any current top 10 HW. It's only when he got into shape that he started demolishing guys. Fighters like Foreman, Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, were showing flaws at all points throughout their careers. Young Wlad was losing to Purrity, Sanders, Brewster (a fight where he gassed early), after he hired Steward right before the Peter fight, he started demolishing these same level of opponents. He would've lost to Peter too but his holding/defense which was still in it's infancy, was just enough to allow him to survive. Brewster, Sanders, Purrity are not better than Haye, Pedvetkin, Jennings, Pulev etc. When a HW gets dropped by a 188lb Cooper your chin is questionable PERIOD. When a 196lb fighter like Peralta is eating flush Foreman punches your power is questionable. When guys previously KO'd go the distance with you like Ellis your power is questionable. When you're losing to Jimmy Young, McCall, Golota, etc. etc. your resume is questionable. These are the standards modern day fighters/heavies are held to and when you hold these same standards to the past fighters it makes them look like jokes. There is a reason why there aren't any 190lb or even 200lb heavies anymore, when you're that size your power and durability put you at a HUGE disadvantage. Does this not happen in the lower weights too? If a guy comes in even 1-2lbs overweight it puts the other fighter at a disadvantage, when a smaller fighter moves up in weight how often does he carry his power? Brilliant comments! It's crazy and mind boggling how these old nostalgic fan boys hold modern heavyweights to an absurdly high standard, compared to the old heavyweights. It'd take time for them to slowly realize and admit that modern super heavyweights totally blow away, and are superior to those old heavyweights by an astronomical margin.

Unlucky, Mitch Green was a top five amateur for years, he had a drug problem, but none of it changes he was never floored amateur or pro and took Tysons best for ten rounds including a punch that put he's dental work in the 5th row because he had a good chin. He wasn't flattened at all in he's last fight. You were caught out lying to support your garbage position. Deontays record and Mitch Greens chin have nothing to with anything really. Simply Deontays record coming up was awful, fighting nobodies and old blown up supermiddles, guys with no power and still managing to get floored by Sconiers. Chavez Snr fouhht 20 plus world champs and several hall of famers.Wilder hasn't, all your deflection can't change that. Btw, it still doesnt change the criteria for a good chin being having proven it by enduring shots from a guy who's a good puncher at world level. It still doesn't change that Ortiz hadn't done so or proven this and you've failed to do it. Now youre just embarrassing yourself further. Fury gets very fat between fights, we all know this. This isn't something to be commended, nor is it that unusual for heavyweights. Holyfield hadn't got into better condition for Toney he was simply not the same fighter anymore, shot is the word we use in boxing. Youre all over the place to be honest but I do enjoy our chats. Your posts are abit of a laughing stock on this site but good on you for trying to baffle everyone. I'm abit of a bull****ter myself but I do like listening to an expert.�� How does Mitch Green have a proven chin but Luis Ortiz doesn't? Mike Tyson is the only supposed puncher Mitch Green fought and lasted the distance without getting stopped. Deontay Wilder is the only puncher Luis Ortiz fought and was stopped / knocked out inside the distance by Wilder. So if anything, it's more a case of both having equally proven chins, at the time of Mitch Green fighting Mike Tyson and at the time of Luis Ortiz fighting Deontay Wilder. Difference is, Deontay Wilder managed to KO Luis Ortiz whilst Mike Tyson failed to KO Mitch Green. So if anything, it's more a case of Mike Tyson lacking punching power, compared to Deontay Wilder. Rather than Mitch Green having a better / more proven chin than Luis Ortiz.

and they would all still beat him too, whatever age he was. Wlad just wasnt all that head to head. stop with the BS, brewster out-thought and outboxed him with his defense. He was just smarter than Wlad, sorry if that offends your skintone based niceties. , no he didnt, what a lie. He demolished ONLY those below that level - leapai, pianeta, pulev, thompson. The only exception is a fair stoppage of mormeck, I'll give you that - but the general rule for his stoppages were back to bum kill. There has been perhaps a small improvement in his survival ability. As he has got older he has become better at being cagey and more apt to commit the cheat, but not at winning. you are repeating failed arguments. the obvious one being theres an intermediate cruiserweight division now. well done genius. So everyone automatically became a 'bum' since Lennox Lewis retired. Am I correct? Because you say so? Modern heavyweight is the best there ever was. Today's heavyweights like Deontay Wilder would put the likes of Lennox Lewis and everybody else in his era to sleep or knock them out senseless. Deontay Wilder is the most powerful puncher in human history. Lennox Lewis is a feather fist, compared to Deontay Wilder. Lennox Lewis's best punches were bouncing of Levi Billup's body like they contained the power of a little sissy girl. Lewis's best punches also bounced off the body of Zeljko Mavrovic like he had the punching power of a little sissy girl. These are facts! No excuses! Why couldn't he KO them? Because he isn't very powerful compared to today's super heavyweights like Deontay Wilder. Even Wladimir Klitschko is more powerful than Lennox Lewis or anybody else from his era, never mind Deontay Wilder. Lennox Lewis couldn't even drop a cruiser weight Evander Holyfield in a combined 24 rounds. He isn't going to KO Deontay Wilder or any of the top heavyweights today. It just ain't going to happen! Learn to deal with this fact! No matter how much it upsets you!

No you can't because Tyson was known throughout he's career as a hard puncher, both in terms of the amount of guys he left on the canvas and the fear and respect a knockout record like he's had in the game. You see, having a great chin means you've proven it by taking great shots from big punchers and standing up when most wouldn't. It doesn't mean never getting hurt or knocked down ever. Now I'm saying there was no proof Ortiz had an iron chin, not because Wilder knocked him down, but because he had never proven he could take exceptional punishment in any previous fight. To say someone has an iron chin, they need to have proven it on occasion before. Ortiz hadn't, so there's no proof. The claim needs evidence. Green proved it because he handled shots that left others in a heap. Ortiz didn't, although I will give you that he wasn't a well man when he fought Wilder. However, he'd never taken shots from a renowned puncher previous, so we don't know. Logic. Or maybe Mike Tyson doesn't hit anywhere near as hard as Deontay Wilder. Hence why he couldn't KO an opponent who was never KO'ed previously like Mitch Green whilst Deontay Wilder hits significantly harder, hence why he was able to KO an opponent never KO'ed before in Luis Ortiz? Are you getting the point now? What do you think would happen if Deontay Wilder faced the same bums and nobodies like Mitch Green that Mike Tyson faced? People complain and slate Deontay Wilder heavily for fighting bums and nobodies but at least he knocks all of them out, unlike the feather fisted / weak punching Mike Tyson who landed everything but the kitchen sink on the bum that is Mitch Green but they bounced off like nothing, making it seem like Mike Tyson had the punch power of a little girl. In the heavyweight division, if you've never even been dropped before, isn't that a sign of a strong chin? Considering pretty much every heavyweight hits hard that weighs above 220 pounds?

david price stands better than your arguments Price stands better against Lennox Lewis and other top fighters in the 1990's and before, than he would against even a journeyman today. Because of how weak, feather fisted and powerless past heavyweights were, in comparison to the most powerful, and one of the toughest boxers in history in Deontay Wilder.

yeah i agree with you, ortiz beat jennings better than klitschko did so that makes him the greater fighter. it doesnt matter about any other achievements or the fact that wlad dominated the division for years and years, ortiz was better cause he stopped jennings and wlad couldnt. although chisora was better than ortiz cause he stopped malik scott and ortiz couldnt. Wladimir Klitschko dominated a division full of low class boxers. Or are you going to disagree with this now? Malik Scott literally ran and was in total survival mode against Luis Ortiz. Whilst he came to fight against Dereck Chisora. But at least Ortiz was able to drop Scott multiple times. Something Wladimir Klitschko failed to do to Bryant Jennings. Bryant Jennings was owning Wladimir Klitschko's ass at times. And an argument can be made that Bryant Jennings is the 3rd best opponent of Wladimir Klitschko since his defeat to Corrie Sanders. Since Bryant Jennings did a better job on Wladimir Klitschko than pretty much any of Wlad's past opponents since 2006 did. Come on! You have to admit that Luis Ortiz is SIGNIFICANTLY more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko with much better punch variation, counter punching skills and overall versatility. This is why Ortiz demolished Jennings whilst Wladimir Klitschko couldn't, because the guy can't fight on the inside.

Luis Ortiz, fresh from going 12 with Malik Scott is the only fighter I know who turned elite without fighting. The same guys who were laughing at him for stinking the joint out, now say he’s better than Klitschko. But he is. Luis Ortiz also arguably punches much harder than Wladimir Klitschko too. Bryant Jennings ate pretty much all of Wladimir Klitschko's punches without even coming close to looking like getting stopped / KO'ed. In other words, he made Wladimir Klitschko look like he was a feather fist in there. Yet, Luis Ortiz totally pulverized the same Bryant Jennings. Luis Ortiz also counter punches much better than Wlad. Ortiz is a complete different animal to anything Wladimir Klitschko ever faced or beat. An argument could be made that Wilder's one win over Ortiz alone, is better than any of Wladimir Klitschko's win in his entire career. And that could be the reason why Wilder may be the greater heavyweight than Wladimir Klitshcko.

:lol1: :lol1: You can’t make this stuff up. I challenge you to pinpoint where I'm incorrect!

yeah, i cant be arsed to argue with them anymore, if they want to make out its some earth shatteringly amazing win they can. ive always said its a solid win but thats not good enough and i should give him more credit apparantly. Who did Wladimir Klitschko ever beat in his career that is anywhere near the caliber of Luis Ortiz, or anywhere near as good as Luis Ortiz? An argument can be made that beating an undefeated Luis Ortiz > Wladimir Klitschko who was already beaten and stopped multiple times before.

https://www.proboxing-fans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/huck-povetkin-weigh-in4.jpg After huc k http://www.boxing.com/images/sized/images/sized/r/6d635d18f83ffa6354135d0152646766-530x317.jpg IF Povetkin were to beat Joshua, I would consider him an all time great. At least top 10, if not top 5.

Truth is Povetkin could beat Joshua and wilder and most probably wouldn't give him any credit because of the ped situation I do actually like Povetkin as a boxer. I enjoy the way he boxes. However, the truth is, he is too small for the heavyweight division against the current crop of super heavyweights. And the irony to me is that his lack of success is actually more likely down to a lack of PEDs, rather than due to it. Because if he was genuinely on PEDs that were very effective, then he would have become much bigger in size, heavier and more muscular, rather than remaining this chubby looking dude. Sort of like how Ike Ibeabuchi looked when he was boxing and how Joshua looks right now. There's no doubt in my mind that Povetkin is more skilled than Joshua from a purely boxing standpoint. However, Joshua is most likely on some kind of PEDs that has made him grow artificially to an unnatural looking size. If Povetkin took similar PEDs and reached a similar size whilst maintaining his current skills, I would favor Povetkin to beat Joshua 8 out of 10 times. However, Joshua's significant size and physical strength advantages overcomes his inferior boxing skills. I'm not going to waste a lot more time this but It is difficult for me to imagine the same Povetkin that knocked out a whole string of pretty good heavyweights from 09/2012 through 12/2016 would not be able to dispatch Nicolai Firtha. That he tested positive for a muscle building PED Ostarine, tells me that he was willing to take whatever was available to improve performance. I do not see how you could argue differently. Povetkin had an arm injury and literally fought with one arm against Nicolai Firtha. You need to do deeper research and actually watch fights, rather than make uninformed and uneducated statements. Roids had nothing to do with him being unable to stop Firtha. Did you know that Povetkin also had knock out streaks spanning 3 or more fights, even before 2012? Was he also 'roiding' then, according to you?

Who the hell doesn't give Loma credit for beating Rigo? Many posters in the boxing forums Not quite the same thing. The lighter you are, the more crucial a weight advantage is. Why? Joshua and povetkin are both heavyweights. loma was 2 weight classes higher than rigo simple mathematics bro Being '2 weight classes higher' isn't simple mathematics. Simply because, that's too vague a description! Being 22 pounds heavier or being 7 pounds heavier is 'simple mathematics'. Being 9% heavier or 5% heavier than an opponent is also 'simple mathematics'. Joshua has 22 pounds of weight advantage over Povetkin. Whilst Lomachenko had 7 pounds of weight advantage over Rigondeaux when they fought. So perhaps explain whether Joshua or Lomachenko has more of an advantage over their respective opponents? Loma gets credit for beating Rigo, and povetkin weighs the same as Wilder. 220-230 is also widely believed to be the sweet spot for heavyweights. D- troll thread. Stick to whining about golovkin. The difference between Povektkin and Wilder is that Povetkin has far more body fat whilst Wilder is lean with much less body fat. Hence, Wilder has more FUNCTIONAL weight than Povetkin. Despite both weighing roughly the same. So what do you vote for and why? Not this retarded racist again. You're the biggest 'retard' here! Lol you and your obsession with povetkin. He weighs 230 and isn't that short, he hits as hard as anyone and knows how to get on the inside with head movement. You read way too much into size, especially when it's heavyweights. I'm asking a question in a thread / poll. Which option do you select? Povetkin arguably has the punching power of a cruiser weight / light heavyweight. I admit he is extremely skilled with great accuracy and timing. Unfortunately, those attributes are not enough against giant elite super heavyweights. He's better off competing below heavyweight in my opinion. Because he lacks physical strength, size and punching power which are all the most vital characteristics to be an elite heavyweight today. We saw how physically weak he looked against Wladimir Klitschko. Having said all of that, I am indeed a big fan of Povetkin though.

I voted no. AJ fought an undefeated Brzeale while Wilder would be fighting a Brezeale who had been KOed. AJ KOed Molina much quicker and easier than Wilder did but I guess you conveniently forgot that in your feeble attempt to discredit AJ. To say that AJ lacks punching power and has limited punching power is a really stupid thing to say but iyou have a history of posting really stupid statements. AJ has KOed every opponent but Parker. How does that show this lack of punching power you say he has? I like Wilder and AJ but neither is a favorite of mine but you are posting BS as usual. You are the same idiot who said GGG punches like a 10 year old girl. You should not be taken seriously. I never claimed GGG punches like a 10 year old girl. I claimed Canelo made it appear that way, by being able to take all of GGG's punches. Including his best / most powerful ones without even going down once, never mind even coming close to getting stopped. You should be careful calling others stupid when you expose yourself as doing something stupid. Which is exactly what you did, by misunderstanding my posts. And Joshua hasn't knocked out every opponent outside of Joseph Parker. Premature and nonsensical stoppages aren't valid knock outs!

LOL Joshua starting to pack more troll threads and haters than any current fighter. I asked a question! Where is the 'hate' and 'trolling' in this thread? Why does Joshua deserve more credit?

I cannot tell you specifically which drugs Povetkin has used other than Ostarine and Meldonium. That he failed 2 tests tells me that he is not above using PEDS and his physical appearance and performance suggests to me that it started after he nearly lost to Huck. After his near loss to a cruiserweight he dumped Teddy Atlas as his trainer and went with Russian trainers. Ostarine and Meldonium aren't steroids. If you can't tell exactly what steroids Povetkin used, then why are you claiming Povetkin used steroids? If Povetkin used steroids, then why hasn't his body weight changed and why has it remained the same throughout his boxing career, including even now?

Fcking racist with anti Russian agenda. What anti-Russian agenda? And how exactly is Russian a race?

I'm aware that neither of the products that Povetkin actually tested positive for are steroids. Povetkins body has changed as has his performance and power. Then why did you mention them when I asked you what steroids Povetkin used? Is Povetkin 'roid-less' now? If you claim Povetkin's body has changed, then how exactly is his body different right now (or in his last 2 fights), compared to how his body was when he was supposedly on 'roids'? And how exactly has his performance in his last fight, different to his performance during when he was supposedly 'roiding'?

Loma would've clearly deserved a lot more credit than he got if he would've fought Rigo 2-3 years ago at 126 or under while Rigo was still somehow active. Rigo was way too inactive and had to jump up 2 weight divisions. Weight divisions matter and they matter a lot more at the lower weights. Rigo is a 118 fighter who fights at 122 because there were a lot of big fights there but all the fighters ducked him. Povetkin is at a much better spot in his career right now and has been competing as a heavyweight for a long time. Joshua doesn't deserve too much credit for that fight though, but definitley more than Loma for beating Rigo. Lomachenko fought a 37 year old Rigondeaux. Whilst Joshua is going to fight an older 38+ year old Povetkin with a far bigger weight advantage. Povetkin has also been relatively inactive lately too. Why does weight difference matter more in the lower weight divisions? And for what reason would you give Joshua more credit for beating Povetkin, than Lomachenko for beating Rigondeaux?

The roids Povetkin put into his body...those roids. What are those roids specifically?

Should Joshua get full credit for defeating roid-less Povetkin, the same Povetkin who barely survived Chambers and Huck? I think this is a better question as Povetkin has fought heavier men than Joshua. What roids?

Not only a racist but also an imbecile I see. Proof or it didn't happen! What anti-Russian agenda? And how exactly is Russian a race? What exactly was racist? By the way, what is 'BOKS' in your user name?

Your deluded if you think any of this is true Come one, be honest! Do you genuinely believe Alexander Povetkin poses even a minuscule amount of threat to someone like Anthony Joshua? This is one of the biggest mismatches I've ever seen. If Joshua doesn't totally demolish and knock Povetkin out unconscious, then I'll admit Joshua is overrated and deserves the criticism for the failure and may not be as good as I thought he was. And so I expect Joshua to totally steam roll and pretty much put Povetkin to sleep for a few minutes inside the first few rounds, if not in the first round itself. If he fails to do so, then return back to me and I'll rightfully eat my crow and own up to my mistakes. Povetkin vs Price isn't really a mismatch in my opinion. This is the true mismatch! At least David Price possesses a significant size and power advantage over the much smaller, weaker, less powerful and shorter Povetkin.

Not a chance of that you fuking imbecile, but that vaunted one punch power will be there trust me. You dog nonce So where was Povetkin's 'one punch power' against Mariusz Wach? Or did he somehow miraculously forgot to take it for that one fight? Even though he knocked Mike Perez out in 1 round in his last fight. What is power based on? ANSWER = SIZE + SPEED. Thus, how is Povetkin going to magically develop planet busting single punch power out of nowhere, if he still remains the same size and doesn't even develop any more speed in the first place? Ever thought about that retard / imbecile? Povetkin never KO'ed anybody taller than 6 foot 6 inches in height. Does that mean for all his fights against opponents of such a height, he purposefully avoided taking PED?

The size advantage is the mismatch, that it. Povetkin is the most skilled heavyweight in boxing and you underestimate the value of that. Who has aj demolished in first couple rounds to make you think this? You have no evidence of Joshua doing what you say he would do to him. And the fact you don't think povetkin vs price isn't a mismatch tells me you don't watch povetkin fights or you only look at size. Maybe just dislike him. But nothing you said is reasonable Just out of curiosity my friend, what makes you think Alexander Povetkin is the most skilled heavyweight? I'm not saying I disagree! I'm just asking to find out why you think such is the case. Even if I agree that Alexander Povetkin is the most skilled heavyweight (he definitely is one of them), Just by looking at the sheer size and physique of Anthony Joshua compared to Alexander Povetkin, it seems like it's not only a mismatch, but a disgusting and a gruesome one at that. It's as big of a mismatch, or maybe even a bigger mismatch than say, Kell Brook vs Sergey Kovalev would be. When I imagine Alexander Povetkin vs Anthony Joshua in the ring. I imagine a bear or an elephant (Anthony Joshua) vs a mouse or a rabbit (Alexander Povetkin) inside a locked colloseum. Obviously skills matter. But how much would it matter against someone who is as monstrous looking and as physically as strong as Anthony Joshua, who looks almost like a different creature and animal altogether when compared to the much smaller and pudgier Povetkin? If Povetkin tries to survive, he could. But that's not his style and because he comes forward all the time. He is going to walk into a monstrous punch that he will get slept by in probably the first round. David Price is much bigger in size, weight, height and reach compared to Povetkin so that's not a mismatch. And David Price has the punching power to brutally KO Povetkin. But Povetkin lacks the punching power to even hurt Joshua in my opinion.

I thought you were talking about the Price/Povetkin fight Nah, Joshua vs Povetkin!