Replace Luis Ortiz with 90's George Foreman

I challenge you to pinpoint where I'm incorrect! You can’t really argue with stupid.

Usyk would give George a good run for his money.

you forget, george just needs to land a good jab. that dude was bout it. i respect his warrior teachings, he took his asswhooping from holyfield like a man. boss status.

Of the 90s? Come on don’t be silly. Shrug, say what you will about Klitschko's stick and move skills but I say big George would get on the inside long enough to either daze his glass chin with a jab or a left uppercut, to each their own. Klitschko has my respect, but not that kinda respect. George finishes like a boss and once he has Klitschko hurt, I don't see anything but Wlad finishing on the floor I know Wlad ain't puttin Big G down

:lol1: :lol1: You can’t make this stuff up. I challenge you to pinpoint where I'm incorrect!

yeah i agree with you, ortiz beat jennings better than klitschko did so that makes him the greater fighter. it doesnt matter about any other achievements or the fact that wlad dominated the division for years and years, ortiz was better cause he stopped jennings and wlad couldnt. although chisora was better than ortiz cause he stopped malik scott and ortiz couldnt. Wladimir Klitschko dominated a division full of low class boxers. Or are you going to disagree with this now? Malik Scott literally ran and was in total survival mode against Luis Ortiz. Whilst he came to fight against Dereck Chisora. But at least Ortiz was able to drop Scott multiple times. Something Wladimir Klitschko failed to do to Bryant Jennings. Bryant Jennings was owning Wladimir Klitschko's ass at times. And an argument can be made that Bryant Jennings is the 3rd best opponent of Wladimir Klitschko since his defeat to Corrie Sanders. Since Bryant Jennings did a better job on Wladimir Klitschko than pretty much any of Wlad's past opponents since 2006 did. Come on! You have to admit that Luis Ortiz is SIGNIFICANTLY more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko with much better punch variation, counter punching skills and overall versatility. This is why Ortiz demolished Jennings whilst Wladimir Klitschko couldn't, because the guy can't fight on the inside.

Of the 90s? Come on don’t be silly. Prime Foreman absolutely annihilates Wlad... The 90’s version likely gets completely outboxed over 12 rounds unless he lands the Hail Mary shot, which is very unlikely against Wlad

But he is. Luis Ortiz also arguably punches much harder than Wladimir Klitschko too. Bryant Jennings ate pretty much all of Wladimir Klitschko's punches without even coming close to looking like getting stopped / KO'ed. In other words, he made Wladimir Klitschko look like he was a feather fist in there. Yet, Luis Ortiz totally pulverized the same Bryant Jennings. Luis Ortiz also counter punches much better than Wlad. Ortiz is a complete different animal to anything Wladimir Klitschko ever faced or beat. An argument could be made that Wilder's one win over Ortiz alone, is better than any of Wladimir Klitschko's win in his entire career. And that could be the reason why Wilder may be the greater heavyweight than Wladimir Klitshcko. :lol1: :lol1: You can’t make this stuff up.

yeah, i cant be arsed to argue with them anymore, if they want to make out its some earth shatteringly amazing win they can. ive always said its a solid win but thats not good enough and i should give him more credit apparantly. Who did Wladimir Klitschko ever beat in his career that is anywhere near the caliber of Luis Ortiz, or anywhere near as good as Luis Ortiz? An argument can be made that beating an undefeated Luis Ortiz > Wladimir Klitschko who was already beaten and stopped multiple times before.

Foreman was an unstoppable mountain and only ever touched the canvas out of sheer exhaustion. Wilder has devastating power but Foreman also had an incredible chin.

Luis Ortiz, fresh from going 12 with Malik Scott is the only fighter I know who turned elite without fighting. The same guys who were laughing at him for stinking the joint out, now say he’s better than Klitschko. But he is. Luis Ortiz also arguably punches much harder than Wladimir Klitschko too. Bryant Jennings ate pretty much all of Wladimir Klitschko's punches without even coming close to looking like getting stopped / KO'ed. In other words, he made Wladimir Klitschko look like he was a feather fist in there. Yet, Luis Ortiz totally pulverized the same Bryant Jennings. Luis Ortiz also counter punches much better than Wlad. Ortiz is a complete different animal to anything Wladimir Klitschko ever faced or beat. An argument could be made that Wilder's one win over Ortiz alone, is better than any of Wladimir Klitschko's win in his entire career. And that could be the reason why Wilder may be the greater heavyweight than Wladimir Klitshcko.

noone in history can beat ortiz apart from wilder. he proved how good he was by beating 45 year old thompson, stopping bryant jennings and going the distance with malik scott. hes a phenomenal fighter. Luis Ortiz, fresh from going 12 with Malik Scott is the only fighter I know who turned elite without fighting. The same guys who were laughing at him for stinking the joint out, now say he’s better than Klitschko.

I wouldn't bet on Klitschko beating George. Of the 90s? Come on don’t be silly.

NSB has told me that Ortiz is better than Klitschko, so how would Foreman do any different? :thinking: I wouldn't bet on Klitschko beating George.

NSB has told me that Ortiz is better than Klitschko, so how would Foreman do any different? :thinking:

Cooney is in no way comparable to Wilder lol, Wilder is the fastest, most flexible, hardest hitting super heavy of all time. Cooney was more skilled and had a devestating left hook. I think you are overrating Wilder

I like George cause he taught the kids at the end, he gave something back. The old man was a bit of a racist, growing up. He worked for a local phone company. Was bellsouth then, now it is at&t. Didn't care for black ppl, but when big george made his comeback, the old man was watching. i saw boxing transcend racism and it was because of big george. so my opinion may be biased.

Ortiz and it's no contest. Ortiz has superior power, technical ability, defense, stamina, you name it Ortiz was better. Foreman is one of the worst defensive HWs of all time. This is Foreman in '89 vs Everett Martin, a career LHW/Cruiserweight stannding 5'11. 17 wins, 7 losses, KO'd twice. Now if this was Ortiz he'd get laughed at, but because it's Foreman he gets a pass. Foreman's power has looked questionable at numerous times throughout his career. Take Peralta-Foreman for example, Peralta was 197lbs managed to go 10 rounds twice. 208lb Holyfield was also eating Foreman punches. Ali managed to eat a TON of body shots. etc. Much respect cause of that Ward sig, I love that punch, that is one of my all time favorite shots in Boxing history Okay, now I have to tell you that you're discounting George's ability to handle punishment and then plod forward, returning significantly powerful shots. George also had a left uppercut he could rip your head off with and could throw it walking forward, he took Cooney out with it. I know...Cooney wasn't as good as Wilder. Still, Foreman would've wiped up the floor with Ortiz, Wilder, (40+ yr old Foreman, I'm talking) and it's because of ring generalship, timing, etc. One good left uppercut and it's over w/. But let's talk about George's jab, which was equivalent of a 2x4 coming out of a basement window.

If Wilder respects old Foreman like Morrison did he likely defeats him. I he gallop steps up to him like he did Stiverne in their second fight, he gets a concussion and a trip to the hospital.

You really do hate Foreman Imagine hating Foreman that much that you’d question his power😭😭😭 I mean questioning his speed, technique etc fair enough, but questioning his power is like saying Michael Phelps can’t swim😭😭