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Manny in his prime had blistering combinations, heck, no one other than a prime Leonard matches him tbh, and I do mean historically (Robinson and Ali of course were just as quick but at higher weights). Crawford is a better combination puncher with a more lethal killer streak than Floyd ever was and is probably just as quick in single shots. However, his footwork is slower and he takes a few more shots, then again, that is down to him going to look for the kill, rather than simply skip his way for 12 rounds. Not even Prime RJJ??

Yes. Will Floyd's chin be able to withstand Miguel's power at 154 and with 8-ounce gloves? Guys are delusional, where did Cotto get such power from? Cotto has never been a concussive 1 punch knockout artist, and his last knockout not TKO was in September 2005 against Ricardo Torres, and the 8oz gloves will benefit mayweather more than cotto, why do you think mayweather chose them, get real my dude

Well considering Cottos last few fights since Pac, who went the full 12? So I'm going to give Cotto the slight nod on power. Well most recent knockout goes to mayweather September 2011, Cotto's last TKO not knockout June 2007 against Judah

Numerous times? Sounds like you know this fight pretty well, what rounds did he hurt him in? Go to YouTube , you'll see Cotto stop dead in his tracks numerous of times, as well as being slightly wobbled while taking the looping right hand from Mosely, you'll hear old Merchant, Lampley and Steward refer to Cotto being hurt and stun throughout the fight

I've watched that fight plenty of times. The only time I remember him being visibly hurt is Benjy Esteves stepped in between them to clean water off the ring. BS timing for sure, but not like Cotto was on queer street. He gassed around the 7th and began to jab going backwards and outboxed Mosley in the majority of the late rounds. He did outbox Mosely, Cotto fought a beautiful tactical fight, I watched it too and he was stun plenty, I'm just saying just because fighter A hurt Fighter B doesn't mean he'll hurt fighter C. Styles make fights, cotto doesn't match up well with mayweather, he is short and while mayweather only being an inch taller mayweather has a 6 inch reach advantage it's like mayweather is equal to Margo or Del La Hoya heigh, to me thats the best attribute mayweather has and that's why it's difficult for fighters when they fight him

I don't recall Mosley rocking Miguel the way Shane rocked Floyd, and I don't remember Miguel holding on to Shane's arms the way Floyd held on there for dear life after he got touched real hard by Mosley. The point is, an older version of Mosley was able to rock Floyd and almost knocked him out, and that was in welter. At 154, Miguel will bring more power and if he touches Floyd like that, Mayweather will be in trouble. He did hurt cotto, numerous of times, but cotto start fighting of the backfoot and retreating, get your story straight

The thing is Cotto took Mosley's power and Mosley has vastly greater power than feather fisted floyd. Floyd could land 100% of his power punches and it wouldn't mean sh*t cuz they don't hurt And lets not forget that theres a reason why floyd ducked a prime Cotto for 6+ years He didn't take Mosley power, once he tasted it trying to trade with Mosely, Cotto fought of the back foot the rest of the fight. So it's hard to knock someone out retreating, look at PAC vs Mosely, also if mayweather would fought like cotto did against Mosely after getting rocked, everyone would of said mayweather was running, but he stood his ground and staled mosley unlike " Prefontain cotto"

Numerous times? Sounds like you know this fight pretty well, what rounds did he hurt him in? Don't take my word for, it's posted all on YouTube

Guys are delusional, where did Cotto get such power from? Cotto has never been a concussive 1 punch knockout artist, and his last knockout not TKO was in September 2005 against Ricardo Torres, and the 8oz gloves will benefit mayweather more than cotto, why do you think mayweather chose them, get real my dude

yes mayorga too, he was taking a lot of clean shots from cotto before being knocked down and also from mosley before being stopped... while just one of those clean mosley shots had floyd on queer st When did Margo go down against cotto? Is there a trilogy between cotto and Margo we don't know about, because from the 2 fights Margo never came lose to going down let alone being hurt..smh

Just hear me out, What makes guys think Cotto is the bigger puncher than mayweather? Just give an reasonable explanation and answer. We all know mayweather isn't a concussive puncher, but neither is cotto, nor do I think he's the bigger puncher. I honestly think they're power are equal, but the key is mayweather is light years faster and quicker, and speed kills also with punch you don't see. At the lower weights if you compare and contrast both, mayweather had more knockouts, better knockout percentage as well as more concussive knockouts. Since both have moved up the knockouts have gone away for both. So ask what makes cotto the harder puncher? Because there is nothing you can really base it on, or really use to make cotto the harder puncher.

I understand where you're coming from. Mosley has more one punch power than Cotto at WW and probably at JMW too. Cotto will have be perfect in every area to compete with Floyd. Could it happen? Of course. Will it happen? Probably not, but I'll support him the whole way. Cotto can pull it off, he does stay focus, and he is mentally and physically strong, he just have to believe in his game plan, and the biggest thing is his condition, Big Floyd said he sees Cotto giving his son the toughest fight in years, and eventhough the mayweather's are loony I tend to believe big Floyd, he said the same thing about Del La Hoya and look how close that fight was

Guys are delusional, where did Cotto get such power from? Cotto has never been a concussive 1 punch knockout artist, and his last knockout not TKO was in September 2005 against Ricardo Torres, and the 8oz gloves will benefit mayweather more than cotto, why do you think mayweather chose them, get real my dude

Yes. Will Floyd's chin be able to withstand Miguel's power at 154 and with 8-ounce gloves? Guys are delusional, where did Cotto get such power from? Cotto has never been a concussive 1 punch knockout artist, and his last knockout not TKO was in September 2005 against Ricardo Torres, and the 8oz gloves will benefit mayweather more than cotto, why do you think mayweather chose them, get real my dude

He was wobbled by Miguel Cotto's older brother Jose

He was wobbled/buzzed by Miguel Cotto's older brother Jose

LOL pops needs to make sure Robert's lawyer communicates to the judge that he isnt interested in short sentences, parol or early release. Rob's only facing up to 4 years no biggie. Somehow I dont think that is what Rob and his lawyers are going to be saying in court. ^^^ Right:haha:

Man Canelo doesn't care, he'll do his thing. You'll see soon enough he'll be taking the may and sept date for himself, since Mexicans are not buying Khan, Alexander, Garcia, Maidana... I'm telling you, Floyd needs him more. That's cause he'll be forced to fight him, by SHO/GBP/Haymon, if there's any way, contractually. Else this deal is a distaster for all, the money's gonna dry up for everyone else. And the longer Floyd keeps putting it off, the scarier it's gonna get, unless Canelo is exposed along the way I don't disagree, I was just explaining the point of view from the guys whom got called out, and how history shows/showed how it goes

May fought Cotto and DLH @154 because he said he likes fighting fighters at their best but he will not fight Canelo @154. I also don't think Marquez was @ his best when Mayweather fought him. IMO Mayweather is a great fighter but the only reason he's undefeated is because he doesn't take any risks. If you fight the best on even terms you will eventually loose. Big difference, May wanted DLH's crown and spotlight, May also called out DLH that's why he fought on DLH's terms and conditions. Also Cotto never called out May, May wanted Cotto's title and he chose to fight Cotto because options were limited. Now Canelo has called out may, the P4P, payper view king, and cash cow. When you do that, you fight on that fighter's terms. Example Dawson vs Ward, Hatton vs May, Marquez vs May, Mosley vs May, Hagler vs Hearns. I can keep going, it has always been like this, led by Sugar Ray Leanord, Heck Ali when he was known as Cassius, had to give in the Sonny Liston's terms in the 1st fight, one of those request was a very small ring. Hagler even though he was the middle weight champ, had to give into Ray Leonard's terms, because Ray was the star. The ring was big as heck, the gloves were chosen by ray too. Bhop vs Tito, Bhop was the middle champ, but Tito was the star, Tito once again chose a smaller ring, and also got the bigger purse. DLH vs Pac, DLH called out and went down to 147, something he hasn't done @ that time in over 10yrs. Point is Canelo called out May, so why does May have to give into him, when May has clearly stated recently he's not comfortable @ 154, it's evident in both his fights vs DLH & Cotto.

I agree that Canelo called out May but it that's what will take for Mayweather to fight Canelo I rather them not fight. Thrs nothing like to fighters fighting when they're both in the best shape of their life. Mayweather & Pac don't like to take any risk and that's why they never fought each other and their fights are 70% won in negotiations before they even step inside the ring. It's a good business decision but it's hard to tell how good they really are cus they refuse to fight the best on even terms. I agree!:boxing:

Had it by one point to Love, this was no robbery that word gets thrown around boxing so easily but the judge that had it by 5 points need to have his licence taken away from him. On another note did anyone notice that Love weighed 179 to Rosados 167 on fight night? That's a disgrace that needs to be address in boxing. I agree with the weight issue, but I hope it's not just Love you have a problem with. Canelo was 172 for a 154 fight, Chavez jr, Matthysse, Garcia , Rios, Berto,Ortiz, Trout and many more, all these guys come in over 15 -20 pounds over the weight they are fighting @ on fight night

I feel u 100%! I want to add on Floyd is pursuing a business venture! Alot of boxing fans are tunnel visioned when it comes to all the other aspects surrounding boxing (Money, press, fame, politics). Canelo isn't all what he is made out to be, neither was Del La Hoya! Hell for that matter neither is Floyd! The fans don't see the hype and build up to the "entertaining" aspect of the fights. When u REALLY listen to these build ups WE KNOW WHOS GOING TO WIN! The spin is how "interesting" and how "enduring" will this fight be? Canelo is a hype job just like manny & del la hoya... Difference is Floyd knows Del la Hoya will go out of his way to have a highway robbery when canelo fights floyd (we all know hoya hates floyd). Floyd is attempting to build his business on his 0 record and move forward in the financial aspect of boxing. What we are seeing unfold is that Floyd is one of the only boxers who understands all the mechanics outside boxing as well as inside, we all hate his B!tch moves as a fighter, but as a business man U HAVE TO RESPECT HIM. My advice to fight fans (if they wanna see real fights with REAL intangibles and no politics) is to get more involved in random street fights or amateur boxing. Excellent post

The fight was close and could of went either way. But when a fight is close, I go with whom did the most damage to separate the two fighters. That being Rosado, he scored the knockdown, and hurt love 1 more time in the 8th or 9th round. That being said, it's all up the judge's discretion and whom they "judge" would rather be in the fight. I score the fight for Rosado 95-94, 97-92 for Love was a joke:boxing:

Ward, Vlad, Mayweather, Bhop, and Rigo. Mickey Garcia is definitely interchangeable with the above. I would of put Marquez and Sergio, but they both get hit a tad to much than those above. Technical also is good defense.

Fighters don't always grow bigger. Canelo has no weight making problems now and he said he has no plans to go to middleweight unless he does outgrow that weight class. Canelo was a pro at 15 years old so he matured early apparently. Canelo might fight at 154 until he retires. Marvin Hagler was a middleweight when he turned pro at 19 years old and he was still a middleweight when he retired at about 34 years old. Hagler never had a bit of trouble making 160. I could list lots more fighters that stayed at the same weight from the time they turned pro in their late teens or early twenties until they retired in their thirties. Your right but not completely, while hagler was a middle his whole career, he also didn't cut weight, "same day weigh ins". Hagler was also know to walk around 160-163. While canelo obviously walks around 170 plus. Canelo's stamina is no good, reason being is making/cutting to much weight. Also Ward came in fight night vs Dawsonv@ 174 I believe while Dawson was 185. So Ward also walks around his fighting weight. BHop his entire career @ muddle weight never gain more than 163-165 on fight night. His was lighter than Tito, and in his first fight vs RJJ he was 10 punds lighter than RJJ, RJJ is on record saying how much bigger he was than BHop. The weight cutting is hindering canelo, just look a his stamina. That's a key

Recently Scott Quigg vs Yoandris Salinas Ricky Burns vs Raymundo Beltran Kell Brook Vs Carson Jones (first fight) Herns title fights always are fishy and end up with controversial draws with one or 2 of the judges scoring it way different from another. Ward wont win on the cards here, he will more than likely walk away with a loss or a draw Froch vs Groves was also heading for a draw more than likely or a win for Froch on the cards. Two judges again had ridiculous scores way out of line with everyone else So true, and this can't be argued :boxing:

Madaina is 5 foot 10 this isn't Ricky Hatton who's 5 foot 3 but listed 5 foot 6 :bsflag: Maidana isn't 5'10 he's only listed @ 5'7, he was the same height as Broner when they weighed in. Both had shoes off. He was shorter than a 5'8 Alexander and a 5'9 Khan

Never thought Bhop was on anything. If you pay attention hes been coming in softer for his recent fights. The only diffrence is hes a guy that knows every trick in the book. While he has a PHD in boxing his younger opponents havent finished high school. Honestly if you pay attention he cant really pull the trigger anymore but he doesnt have to because he can usually take away most of his opponents strengths in a fight. Excellent post:boxing:

Porter's power is serious. Malignaggi's chin has been tested by Cotto, Hatton, Broner, Khan and never ever has he been hurt THAT bad. He's a huge welterweight, started career @ 165. His power is based on his weight and natural size advantage. @ 154 he was average

Wow I was dead wrong on this one Paulie always had a great chin, better than Devon Alexander's IMO, curious as to why Paulie couldn't figure this kid out, I've seen porter and has never seemed to be anything special The answer Porter is naturally bigger and stronger than almost most welterweights other than probably Thurman or berto. Thurman actually admits during his interview vs Alexander on the live showtime fight. He's using his advantages. I'm not discrediting the kid, I'm just stating the obvious. Now he is a physical talented specimen and has some good skills. But his biggest asset is his natural size weight.