MurkaMan

He's already a small welterweight there is NO WAY he could fight at 154, martinez and especially Canelo are MUCH BIGGER!!!!! He's the same size as Floyd, and they both come in at 150 on fightnight as shown at Pac's fight against Bradley. Marg is bigger than Martinez, so whats the problem?

then why are you forcing pac to fight at 154 when he can barely fill out 147 , let them stick to their natural weights , if they cant make it then dont , if pac doesnt want to fight at 154 then you need to respect his decision too , he has moved more than enough Then people need to give Floyd the same respect. Matter of fact, both of them are hoes. No excuses. Duran fought SRL who was bigger, and someone can refresh my memory, Im not too sure if that was a cw fight. If it was, then I condemn SRL the same way. And little Aaron pryor wanted to fight SRL. Tommy herns went up to light heavy weight right? I cant remember to be exact, but he didnt do a cw. They both fought at 54, and Martinez is there...Waiting.

smdh.... im done with your dumbass. You resort to insults when you cant prove people wrong. Im glad your done with me, and the way you dumped me, let me know where I stood. Tnx and gud day.

doubt it , i prefer manny fight floyd next if you only care about facts then its easy to see that manny's a smaller welterweight than floyd floyd came in at 150 during his last fight while manny came in at 147 , fact!! floyd cant even make 144 and had to cheat marquez on the scale , pac can easilly do 144 , fact!! I dont care about JMM, Or Floyd cheating him. I dont care about Pac's size and mass, yet u still bring it up like it means something. Whether they are facts or not, why are you distracting yourself from seeing what IM saying? All I care about is that they both are basically the same size, fight at 47, weigh in at 47, then come in the ring at 50, so whats the problem?

He fought Margrito. He fought Clottey. Who was a SMW in the ring. With that said though hes past it and it might not be a good idea to try. Yea but he came in at 144 so he could maximize his speed, while Marg drained himself and compromised his power and speed. Pac lied about his weight, and he came in at 150 against Bradley. Floyd fights guys at 154, and comes in at 50, why cant Pac do it when he weighs the same, and has enough power to back these guys down, better than Floyd? He even tried to fight Martinez at 47. He shiesty man.

bro you're a moron. floyd claimed to come in at 150? :lol1: he officially came in at 150. there's no claim. :lol1: again, you're a moron. bro. :lol1: at claimed. We both are wrong, because he made an excuse saying he came in at 147, and what I meant to say is that he CLAIMED to have lost weight on fight night, and came in less than 150

actually he did not challenge him at 168. at first he said at LHW or at a catchweight, then Max Kellerman said Ward is only a super middleweight, and then Dawson said he might move down to 168. but at first he didnt want that, he just didnt want to sound like a coward when calling out a smaller guy. Great comment. I was surprised that someone was perceptive enough to type this. I still didnt think it was a good excuse though, cuz ultimately, whatever the case, Dawson did volunteer.

im done , i dont know if your intentionally being dumb or what , but being below the weight limit is totally fine and your just proving my point, pac is a small welterweight cause he cant fill 150 and has to fight at a weight where he doesnt lose speed Anyone will lose speed, if they add on weight bro. If Floyd takes the risk, then why doesnt pac? Yea it may bhe fine to come in lower, but Marg sacrificed his speed and power making weight, while Pac lied about his weight, and was able to come in lighter, to maintain his speed and power. Its not rocket science.

thats the heaviest manny has been 150 , floyd was 151 during his weigh in against cotto , floyd will be heavier on fight night there is no way he's gonna weigh lesser than that, whats so hard to understand ? On fightnight, they will both be 150. You say the heaviest Manny has ever been was 150, but he lied about his weight so much, he probably walks around at 155. Floyd cant make 154 to save his life, so all this talk about him weighing more than 151 on fight night, is just your way of sticking up for Pacman. Why stick up for THAT guy out of all people. Why not just be a boxing fan that points out things that are right, and things that are wrong?

if pac came in at 150 he would be bloated and lose speed Like Floyd when he went up? Come on man, both Pac and Floyd both know how to carry their weight to different classes.

now i think you're trolling. :lol1: at typo.... Floyd has had 7 fights at welterweight. He has always offically weighed at 146 & up. Pac has had 6 fights at welterweight. He has only officially weighed in at 147 once. the bradley fight. be gone you imbecile. I dont care what Floyd did in 7 fights. Im talking about now. I dont care if Floyd cheated JMM, Or anything else that you all use to distract yourselves from admitting Im right. As of right now, they both weigh in at 47 at ww, and come in at 150, at ww. So whats the problem? I had someone tell me about a week ago, that Floyd would duck Pac by trying to fight him at 54. If he tried to fight pac at 54, they both would weigh in at 150-151, and they both would come in at 150 or less. Whats the problem?

what weight class did pacquiao start & what weight class did floyd start in? do the math....ohh wait you're a repugnant floids infested fl 0 m0sexual & you cant do math. you aint fooling anybody changing your avatar from al haymon to sugar ray. go ahead & change your name to floydfollower instead. if you need points ill give you some. god i hate fl 0m 0s. i really do. i wish i could wipe them all out from the face of the earth.crime rate would drop by half. the world would really be a better place. Who cares, they both weigh the same today, and are the same height. Why does Pac get to duck fighters, and Floyd doesnt? Pac was 150 against Bradley, he been lying about his weight for years I see. I dont gaf about how many weight classes he climbed, man how much does he weigh today? Enough to fight someone at 54, without draining them, and come in the ring at 150 just like ballzy Floyd does.

on fight night he was 150 :lol1: never said he wasnt dumass , i dont know if your trolling or what but manny made 147 and he's lying :lol1: stop embarassing yourself Funny, because I dont feel embarrased. I wont feel silly, if someone proves me wrong. I dont care about being right or wrong, I just care about getting down to the facts. But after I proved you wrong, I changed the topic remembet? Now that Pac can make 150, is Martinez next?

why do you keep on insisting that manny lied about his weight , do they interview him before a fight and he gives a random weight number , they officially weigh this guys , manny cant lie about it Dont act dumb. He intentionally came in lower than 150 against Marg, so he could maintain his speed and power right? He basically did it his whole ww career, so he could maintain his speed and power.

floyd is bigger & how you figure they weigh the same? & how has pac been lying about his weight? there's a difference between weigh in weight & night of the fight weight. Pac said gave the impression that he could BARELY weigh 147, then he was 150 against Bradley. I dont gaf about ANYTHING your saying, because time and time again, I heard people saying similar stuff about how Floyd is too small, and that he TOO should be a jww, but he been dominating at ww for years, and he comes in at 150. Manny Steward felt dumb af, he ALWAYS talks about how Pac can barely make 47, yet he pops up at 150, well why didnt he pop up at 150 against Margarito on FIGHT NIGT? Manny Steward felt like a fool.

not only are you factually wrong but also a complete and utter idiot. why are you saying both pac & floyd came in at 150? where are you getting that at? pac officially weighed in at 147 during the weigh in. rehydrated to 150 on fight night. floyd OFFICIALLY WEIGHED IN AT 150 rehydrated to who know how many lbs on fight night. i explained that you earlier but you are either too stupid, obtuse, or retarded to figure it out. floyd is bigger than manny & they dont weigh the same. Floyd came in less than 150 against Oscar, and claimed the same against Cotto. Quit trying to confuse yourself bro, you will get nowhere with me. When Pac fought brad, he weighed in at 47, and came in at 150. When Floyd fights at ww, he weighs in at 47, and comes in at 150. I bet if Pac fought at 154, he would weigh in at 150, and come in at either 150, or 147 just like Floyd's body does. They both are practically the same size, so when they fight at 54', there body's will probably respond the same. With them losing weight on fight night, and coming at less than 150, or maybe at 150 flat. If Floyd can do it, then Pac should do, or else just make the same excuses for both of them. They should not be treated differently just because of body SIZE and MASS. Its plenty of fighters who have small frames, big frames, big frames at lower weights, and small frames at higher weights. No excuses. its apart of of the sport bro.

manny never fought at 154 , floyd did , manny already stated that hes not fighting above 150 so unless martinez wants to come to 150 then make it happen , doesnt take a genius to tell that floyds a bigger welter than manny I dont care about Floyd and Pac's size and mass, why do you keep bringing to up, so you can give yourself an angel to debate from? The guys are practically the same size, and whatever manny lacks in size, he makes up for it in power. Manny never fought at 54, because he drained the guy REMEMBER? Martinez already said he would fight at 150, then pac demanded that he come in the RING at 150, then changed his demand to 147. I dont even want to argue about it anymore. New topic, NOW that Pac is at 150, is he going to challenge Martinez?

martinez starts from 147. as well as canelo. pac starts at flyweight to 147 throughout his career. and fought at 150 fighting marg who starts at 147. its a challenge against pac and it is a test... but he stops at marg at 150. it is pacs desicion why he fought marg only as you can see at that fight pac fights good but look at his body. pac can fight at 147 weighing 142-146 at fight night he weighs maybe 148- 150. some 147 he fought weighs more than 150+ except ODLH and JMM. martinez or canelo cant get that recognition from fighting pac. they need to fight bigger men not bigger names with less risks. even floyd didnt fought marg.. he fought baldomir look at that fight it is not that competetive and entertaining to watch but floyd WON it very convincingly. floyd didnt fought marg coz marg fights differently to baldo. too much risks. and floyd starts at 130. Who cares about where Pac started at, or where Floyd started at. TODAY, They BOTH weigh in at 47 at ww, and they BOTH come in at 150. Floyd fights at jmw, and comes in at 150. Pac would do the same thing if he just stepped up, cuz Martinez is waay smaller than Margarito.

the hate is strong on this one , manny is a small welterweight So is Floyd. They are both the same size. Manny lies about his weight, he was 150 against Bradley, the exact same as Floyd on fight night. All these years, he was draining guys for no reason I think. Even if he USED to weigh less than 47, during ww fights, why drain them? That type of stuff comes with the territory, guys will be bigger, stronger, all the time in this sport. Just fight, who cares about two little lbs, specially when you got all that power, and Floyd barely has enough power to back them up.

Can anyone explain this??cause he would have been a 9 time champion now instead of a 8 time champion Mayweather was in two different spaces for each fight. When he fought Shane, he just needed an opponent to make a ppv event. When he had fought Cotto and Ortiz, he came back with something to prove and he felt that a belt would make it official. Make the fight feel like it was something on the line.

pac lied about his weight ? :lol1: i dont know if your on drugs or something but how can pac lie about his weight ? cause he didnt fill 150 ? :lol1: Nope cuz he made it against Bradley. I already told you guys, acting dumbio wont work!

why would manny lie about his weight ? who did he drain ? cotto just needed to cut 1 measly lb. from his last fight , dela hoya set the terms not pac , he could've fought margarito at 147 but decided to fight at 150 that was a win for margarito not pac and manny already made it clear that he is done fighting above 150 and floyd is a bigger welterweight than pac , he even cheated marquez on the scales True or false, has manny always lied saying he can barely make 147? Then came in at 150 against Bradley, the exact same weight Floyd comes in at? I dont care anything about JMM, Or any of that other crap. I dont care if JMM Got cheated in a game of checkers. That aint got nothing to do with what Im talking about. They both fight at ww, they both come in at 150. There's nothing else really to discuss bro. You talking about Cotto being drained of 1lb. Thats HORRIBLE, That one lb is not enough for you to drain him, but its allot for him to train hard, then gets to that one lb, and starts starving himself, then he may accidentally gain weight. Rios did it on 2 a days. If you gonna drain someone, drain a bigger fighter of 5lbs. Dont drain a guy your own size of 1 freaking lb, that wont affect you in facing him, but will KILL him trying to shave it off. He may lose half the lb, come back 10 minutes later, and have gained 3 lbs just from doing nothing. Learn about this boxing game.

lied about this weight ? there u go again , as long as manny doesnt go above 147 then he's doing nothing wrong , jesus christ do u even know boxing ? Then say the same about Floyd. They both fight at ww, they both add on 3 lbs on fight night. Dont treat them differently.

floyd came in at 151 , who knows how heavy he was during fight night , manny made 150 once and thats him on fight night Floyd always makes 150 at ww, on fight night. Against Cotto, he claim to have come in at 147. He is just like Pac. If pac fought at 54, he will come in at 150, and probably be less on fight night, so whats the problem? Their bodies are the same.

becuase 147 is his peak weightclass..the 150 CW was just a one time thing.. unless you can tell us a fighter who has climbed to 11 weighclasses to collect 8 titles in diffremt divisons then STFU... Pac and Floyd are the same size, and both come in at 150. Pac been lying about his weight, and came in at 144 against Margarito, so he could maintain his speed, instead of coming in at the agreed weight, and allowing his athleticism to be compromised, like Margarito's was compromised. Manny steward felt STOOPID When he found out pac was 150 against Bradley, cuz he always talks about how he cant even make 47'. Floyd been fighting at 54, and has never even made 154 in his life. He weighs the same as pac, and they are the same hieght.

Dawson was clearly weight drained don't put too much stock in that win I told myself, if he was drained, I would place the asterisk. He had a glass jaw due to him coming down, but thats it. He was still fast, and strong. Ward was impeccable, I gave him a 10. He was aggressive, didnt get hit, combination punching, multiple knockdowns, and finished the show. It was perfect. at 175, it would be the same, just without the KO. And remember, Dawson is bigger, stronger, and faster. Ward walked him down and didnt get grazed.

nope pac rehydrates to 150 while floyd officially weighs in at 151 , who knows how many lbs floyd gains during fight night Why dont pac fight at 154, and just come in at 150 like Floyd, matter of fact?

Word was that Floyd came in at 147 against Cotto If he did, it just shows some grit. When Floyd fights at that weight, and he naturally walks around at 150, he could possibly shiet out four or five lbs by accident, and shrink up. But To be honest man, I think Floyd was lying about that and making excuses for getting touched up. I think he was 47 against Oscar, but he looked nice, big, stocky, and strong against Cotto. I dont know man, but they should have a mandatory weigh in on fight night, cuz the fans really want to know how big and difficult Chavez is going to be for Martinez. I like knowing that Ortiz was 164 against Floyd, cuz that type of stuff makes it more interesting.

nope pac rehydrates to 150 while floyd officially weighs in at 151 , who knows how many lbs floyd gains during fight night Come on man, thats your response? You care so much about being right, you just cant admit your wrong. Who cares about being right or wrong. We just discussing boxing, if Pac lies about his weight, WHO CARES? But if we talking boxing, lets be real. Im a Floyd fan, but you see me condemning him all the time. I dont care about kissing his butt, if he's in the wrong, then he's in the wrong. Pac needs to just respect the sport and stop draining guys so he can maintain his speed and power. And he should fight at 54, because its no one to fight at ww except a few no hopers. That is all.

:lol1: pac fought margarito at 150 & officially weighed in at 144. how much more 154? :lol1: no they are not the same size. this is not a opinion. this is a fact. backed up by physical statisics & offical weights. did you see floyd come out of jail? & that was when he was complaining of losing too much weight. :lol1: Floyd looked thin and weak when he came out of jail, his stomach was sucked in, and his head was too big for his body like he had lost weight. He had all them veins like a dope head.