Fury is better than Ortiz. Povetkin too..
Bull****..
Ortiz much better than Povetkin.
He got old, that was the problem, but the Povetkin vs Jammer was a boring fight Ortiz was more dangerous for Hammer... altough he is 40 years old
Stiverne said the truth: Wilder actually found the back of his head first.
youtube.com/watch?v=TUtupTADNAs
from 0:28
But Stiverne seemed too slow and stiff before the knockdown.
Both Ortiz wins & Brezeale are all better
Charles Martin & Bruce Seldon are former world heavyweight champions. Come on, man.
Breazeale isn't better than the prime Stiverne.
Stiverne won the world titel with authentic and very nice performance.
He was on the level than Andy Ruiz todas and he lost his world titel on the same way against a taller fighter who avoided him in the ring and scored just with his jab.
I would forbid women who want to interview with their breasts and mega-decolettage and who would abuse with their sexual eradiation. Michelle Joy-Phelps was also irritating.
What are sluts looking for at sports events?
Boxing is originally a gentleman-sport, but since the 1970s more and more primitive..
I think the 41 years old Klitschko was in the same shape against Joshua than the 41 years old Povektin against Whyte...
Much slower, much weaker, much stiffer...
Wilder in his prime could beat Joshua, because he is faster, more athletic and hit harder.
But Wilder is 35 years old now.. Maybe he is done.
The prime Luis Ortiz is much better fighter than Andy Ruíz, but Ortiz already 43 years old..
Extremely much as a professional athlete.
Ortiz was too old in the time of the first Wilder-fight as well.
Stiverne should have 5 straight losses since his first loss to Wilder ,Derrick Rossy was robbed on the scorecards .After that one Stiverne took nearly 2 years off and then stepped back in with Wilder
I don’t really see any fight to favor either guy ,Stiverne has one of the worst resumes Ive seen to as a heavyweight champion.
Yes, because Stiverne was actually old when he won the heavyweight title. He was 35 years old that was a late part of his career.
He had the same size than for example Samuel Peter had.. And Peter was 2 years younger (!!) than Stiverne.
And what happened with Peter? Peter's substantive career ended fast 10 years ago...
If Peter lost very lightly against Pulew just in 3 rounds he was 35 years old...
For the smaller guys is very important the skills, the reflexes, the handspeed, therefore they couldn't be so competitive so old than the taller guys.
See David Haye's career, Odlanier Solis's career.
Exception is a bit Povetkin, but hidden Povetkin stays the full russian chemical industry.. let's be honest
Great article, thanks for that!
In the 1970's was for me on of the best who neved won a title: Ron Lyle
I think, Ortiz was a hughe talent, he could be a big threat for the Klitschkos in his prime (2010-2016).
Maybe Hearn thinks that if AJ loses against Usyk and Usyk will fight against Fury for the undisputed title then Whyte can get a shot for the undisputed title with the winner of Fury vs Usyk.
Hahaha, earlier today? No "top" heavyweight has turned down "top" fights more than Luis "no thanks" Ortiz.
Bullshit.
Dillian Whyte clearly avoided him and Andy Ruíz did choose the very old and inactive Chris Arreola instead of Ortiz.
Ruíz checked Ortiz now how really god old - and for him okay now.
He had a great career if he’s speaking to a casual guy in a gym or his family members something but claiming a great career in boxing is not even a possibility or discussion you can tell someone it’s a great career .
Hey, man.. He was a heavyweight champion. And not on that way than Charles Martin who won against Glazkov because Glazkov had a knee injury.
Stiverne's KO against Arreola was one of the nicest knockouts in the heavyweight-history.
You can critizise him, but we talk about him worldwide.
Wilder was a fantastic fighter, technically not good, but his height, his chin, his punch-power and his speed made him all time great.
But he is already 37 years old, he has lost his speed, therefore he won't be the same again.
At the end of 10 the bell saved Fury:
https://youtu.be/lVu7kZYEKUw?t=1495
Big question is that with that bigger weight what could Wilder do in the 2. and 3. fight?
Martin was very good, he was more technical, he throw some very nice punches in different style (right jab, left hook, left straight).
He should fight Babic, Gorman, Arreola, Jennings, etc first and if he will be successfull better names
Stiverne was awful Arreola was his best win.
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Stiverne was better in his prime than Ruíz now.
I would be curious what could Ruiz do against an older and inactive Wilder than Stiverne in 2015.
But Ruiz try to run against the 43 years old Luis Ortiz... (then wait until Wilder got 37 years old..) That's Ruiz mentality
Stiverne actually beat someone for his belt though.....
but we are comparing D level fighters now.
Stiverne was definitely a TOP5 boxer in 2012-2015.
The worst heavy champions were Ibragimov, Liahkovic, Martin, etc, but Stiverne was a good fighter in his prime. Altough small with 188 cm..
On the instagram was before two days a foto with Stiverne in a night bar on 20. January... (Stiverne and his friends drunk vodka or something similar so short drinks..)
The foto about Stiverne in a night bar was taken 1 months before the fight! Today was this foto deleted!
I dont understand Stiverne because Joyce is a strong but very slow and robotic fighter.
If Stiverne would be in a very good shape he could beat Joyce...
I cant understand this dude...
Maybe punch drunk - syndrom???
Wilder broke his right hand in the 1st bout, up until that point he hurt and knocked Stiverne down. .
This is a bull**** from Wilder...
Wilder's hardest punches in that fight happened in the round 5 and 7, 8 and 9...
I never said he was a great champion. I just said he had a great boxing career.
What means "great champion"?
Stiverne was a legit champion, that's it.
Samuel Peter won the WBC-titel too, all people should respect that Peter was a very good fighter.
But he couldn't win James Toney who was originally a welterweight champion...
And Stiverne and Peter sparred eacht other and Stiverne seemed to be always the more skillful fighter
When was Stiverne in good shape?
Against Arreola he was in a good shape. Against Wilder he wasnt in so bad shape...
... twich really in a bad shape....
but just...
.. he is in a extraordinary terrible shape!!!
188 cm - 273 lbs!! (maybe world record fast..)
Stiverne, in his prime was outboxed by Wilder.
Wilder OUT BOXED Stiverne. Out pointed him. Easily. In 12 rounds.
No Stiverne was not underrated. He was a "B" level HW
Nope, first of all, Stiverne was that time 36 years old, he was older than Samuel Peter and he won the heavyweight title 6 years later... Peter was that time already practically retired..
We must see in which shape will be Ruiz when he got older...
Stiverne was in his prime better fighter than Andy Ruíz. He sparred with each other and lot of people said that Stiverne seemed to be better.
Wilder could outpoint him because he was too tall for him, but i think Wilder could in his prime knockout Ruíz in 6 rounds.
Stiverne had very fast hands he could hit at least so strong than Ruíz, he had a iron chin, but he could use the ring better, he was a bit more flexibel.
Ruiz has two short legs, altough he did lost many pounds now, but his movement wasn't much better, because his body-type.