Jeez live in the present homey. These guys don't give a fuvk about blood so no problem there. Why are you sweating the small stuff. The deal here is its the biggest paycheck for Floyd and it also good for your idol's resume to fight Pac after all has been said and done when he hangs up his gloves. Don't you want none of that?? I swear you flowmos are retarded lol
Why start a thread where you are insulting everyone that does not agree with you? Does not make sense dude.
First time for a high profile fight (Maidana/Mayweather) that I could read threads at NSB without having to log in during and after the fight. The traffic was as normal as any day here in this site. It was verrry unusual.
I thought to myself, "wow, this fight most likely bombed." Even the Chavez fight was way busier. You have to log in in the Bradley/Pacman fight. NSB was very busy for many hours. 500K is closer.
In the other thread it says it did 900K. That's clearly a lie.
what i do find interesting is that when alleged PPV numbers come out under 1 mill buys for Floyd, you guys jump on it and rejoice that his PPV failed but when Pac mans PPV comes under 500,000 buys and the subject gets brought up, you say PPV buys dont matter and question why we are so interested in PPV's instead of good fights.
theres just too much double standards and hypocrites on this website.. I agree Floyd contradicts himself but so do 99% of fans and this proves it.
I dont say much on this website but i do read threads nearly everyday at work and the contradictions and double standards when it comes to Floyd is RIDICULOUS!
the man still sold more PPV's than anyone else and still gets 3,4 times more money than all other athletes, let alone boxers.
I couldnt care less what these guys PPV buys are as long as i get to watch them fight, am good. :-)
dont let hate for anyone blind you from the truth/facts.
Men lie, women lie........ you know the rest...lol
peace out!
The superstars of the sports get paid excessively. The unknown ones building names are left to get chump changed that's why.
yes, that is true and it doesnt seem fair but Floyd and Pac got themselves to that level so can't knock them for what they earn. I believe Floyd making sooo much money,will push other athletes to promote themselves more so to maximise their income.. Floyd was not a household name until he became "his own boss" and played the villain role. I feel athletes may need to take this route more than ever now as skills are not appreciated as much and even brawlers are not getting their just due income.. its a shame but that's life, not just boxing.
funny how now that ur saying this because before it was floyd and GBP always put on a nice under cards, arum and top rank needs to take notes on how its done LOL..
huuuhhhh? If you are going to debate then quote something i said, not what others have said. I never shared an opinion on undercards here. as per my earlier quote i rarely write on here but mostly read threads and the double standards are ridiculous when it comes to Mr Mayweather. Logic goes out the window. It may have been the most expensive undercard but we (the fans) benefit from this, so i dont get why you care.
Have you made a fuss when other boxers havent hit the 1 mill mark??
Like, no matter how you cut it, the man still got 32 mill guaranteed... lol
it's funny cause fans are more concerned about PPV buys than the fights themselves these days.
True, Bradley is a top fighter and Maidana is not there yet IMO. But I don´t think Bradley has a bigger fanbase than Maidana.
Actually I think the 800k PPV buys of Pac are better than the 850k buys of Floyd, because of the bigger names of the undercard. Amir Khan has many fans in the UK, for example.
800,000K is not bad at all for a rematch as people were interested to see if Bradley could really beat Pac for the 2nd time. the controversy sold that well. I believe the same of a Maidana - Floyd rematch.
Only thing i will say is, is the 800,000K official or from Bob Arum numbers?
Is the 850,000 - 900,000K official or media numbers?
Am not sure the last time we got OFFICIAL numbers for a big fight.(apart from Canelo-Floyd) Personally I dont care too much about the numbers but no one should really pay attention to unofficial numbers. too many lies & alibies..lol
oscar was a big star and imo it wasn't floyd's character but more the 24/7 show. the same reality tv show saved the ufc...
I can see that you do not want to give Floyd any credit watsoever for PPV buys so ok, if it makes you happy to think that Floyd had nothing to do with breaking record number PPV TWICE, then what can i say.
floyd was not a household name till he fought Oscar, he did not become a star in europe till he fought Hatton.
None of it had anything to do with being his own boss, he works for GBP, is contracted to Showtime and received "advice" from Haymon...his own boss my arse.
and the fight in which he started trash talking and took being a villain to another level was the OSCAR fight...everyone who fought Oscar did not break PPV records, Floyd made that happen by acting like the villain. so it doesnt matter how you cut it, yes Oscar was the star but Floyd had to do all that ***** talking to break the numbers.
As for him being his own boss, you are right in a sense because he probably does answer to others above him but he has more control over his career than any other boxer. Look at how Pac is being raped by Arum.. It's sickening. He's risking his life and getting knocked out for less than what he should be getting.
floyd vs maidana had the most expensive under cards. even the man promoting it said so LOL.
YES. but my point is it these decent undercards benefit the fans, dont it?
Why you moaning.. so what if it was expensive.. Floyd still getting more than us or any other athlete so why rejoice cause his PPV MAYBE did 900,000? that's what i dont get.
Pac did less than that in his last 2 fights but i dont give a crap cause his pay check exceeds mine.
stacked undercards??? was Oscar - Floyd stacked? Floyd - Hatton stacked, Floyd-Marquez stacked? Floyd-Mosley stacked.
Only Canelo and Maidana fights had decent undercards so lets stop going on like Floyd has always done this.. sometimes you guys logic is so silly.
No disrespect but i come across silly dumb comments from Mayweather fans but most Pacman fans take it to another level of stupidity..
am not into cussing peopLe out but GO'T DAMN!!
and the more stacked the undercard, the more it benefits us fight fans so enjoy instead of moaning.. would you rather watch *****e undercards..? lol..WOW!
so pac basically by himself does about the same numbers as floyd plus stacked undercard
stacked undercards??? was Oscar - Floyd stacked? Floyd - Hatton stacked, Floyd-Marquez stacked? Floyd-Mosley stacked.
Only Canelo and Maidana fights had decent undercards so lets stop going on like Floyd has always done this.. sometimes you guys logic is so silly.
No disrespect but i come across silly dumb comments from Mayweather fans but most Pacman fans take it to another level of stupidity..
am not into cussing peopLe out but GO'T DAMN!!
my comment still stands and is completely accurate. pac with a crap undercard did pretty much the same as floyd with stacked undercard.
Flom*s open themselves up to this sort of thing by talking so much about money and numbers. if they didn't care about numbers so much it would be a non issue and they wouldn't be so defensive and angry now.
hold on... so because my opinion is not the same as yours, am a "*****"?
this is what i mean about silly fake fans like yourself. a debate/conversation means we talk about what we believe in regardless if we agree but you, King Kong, is always right and if i dont agree, am a *****.? no point me even responding to you further as you are obviously a young naive man, who believes he knows it all.
Learn to have a decent debate son and i'll be waiting to talk on a grown folk level.
peace
Abraham and Jack are easy fights for Degale.
Jack is the only realistic one. Jack vs Degale would truly be a 50/50 fight. If that were to ever happen in London, England with TMTcoming to London, id be there for sure.
That would sell out an arena here, i tell ya.
It would sell because of Degale and Floyd's name as promoter. they love Floyd here in England. Both fighters are under Haymon so easy to make it happen.
could be tabbed USA vs The Brits. Ashley Theopane would represent both nations. lol. plus Haymon has British fighters.
Signs with Haymon and then calls out Andre Ward. hah... he has been calling out Ward and the rest of the top names in the division, looong before he signed with Haymon. On a side note, if you was trying to imply that he doesnt want any part of Ward cause he scared etc.. just remember these guys fight for a living. They have a different mentality than you my friend.
Ward would destroy him but he believes in himself. all that matters:boxing:
I have a better idea: put Floyd Mayweather Jr., Wladimir Kiltschko, Andre Ward, Viktor Postol, Miguel Vazquez, and all other clinchers in front of a firing squad! :killyou:
Funny thing is I watched a lot of Ali fights and he grabbed from the very first few seconds of the first round in a lot of fights but I don't hear you guys criticise that.
So many double standards in this boxing game.
Grabbing or whatever you want to call it has been part of the game for decades but you make it seem like these current fighters started it or used it their whole careers, when they evidently didn't and used that tactic a bit more, the older they got.
Anything to diminish a guys career right. Lol. SMDH
So the article is basically saying that Mayweather may be doing it but its ok since many others are and its hard to police?!? Then ends it with he's clean?
are you brain dead..this drug is not illegal..if it was dont you think the Boxing board would allow this??? it is not illegal in las vegas..not sure about anywhere else so read up on your facts mate.
rest assured your getting the same shit. Maybe even worse so dont waste ur money
no joke bros..you a hater.i seen you in every anti floyd thread bashing floyd and his fight with ssm..give it a break..pac man aint the only good fighter out here,hence why pac ducked ssm..lol
i dont believe this for one minute..if something like ths was written about pacman you guys would be asking for CLEAR EVIDENCE but because it is Floyd,anything negative and you jump on the bandwagon..
say what you like but ive heard people like Mike Tyson say things about eating peoples kids,about the rapes he has commited but everyone still loved him because of his fighting style but then you want to hate n Floyd for something stupid like this????
Floyd said the other day that when God is on your side no man can beat you...well guess what you guys can hate all you want but he aint losing and when he finishes his career unbeaten,wealthy,healthy(no slurring) you will realise what smart man this guy was in and out the ring..plus everyone makes mistakes in life so why condemn him to little things he does but then not praise him for the charity wor he puts in..RIDICULOUS!!!!! ITS HARD BEING YOUNG BLACK AND RICH..IF HE WERE NOT BLACK HED BE PRAISED SO MUCH MORE...SAD BUT TRUE..
I think they are bashing Floyd for fighting Cotto NOW and retiring and avoiding him when Cotto was an undefeated titlist who had just beatin SSM at WW. Also bashing him if he plans to fight Cotto now instead of Pac, especially after stating he wasnt thinking about boxing when asked about Pac.
Also PAC was underdogs in those fights. so ppl give him more credit. Also Hatton was at 140, his best weight when Pac fought him. Pac started at 106, so ppl tend ot give him more cred for taking the bigger risks. Like if Floyd was to go up and face PW or Martinez.....
how long you been watching boxing? smh.....
FYI - the Floyd hating/bashing started long before Pac was this big but this was not the question of the thread.
laters,i got to go.
the reason they ride Floyds ass about everything, and hate on him is simple. He's black! Black Americans are always treated like that when there the best in there field and have not forgotten there roots. Cashis clay was loved by all until he saw the light,and changed his name to Muhammed Ali. Floyd has never forgotten his roots and where he came from, he's a proud black man. They will always hate and fear a strong Black man. The first cahance theyt get to put him away they will. Just ask Joe luis, Ali, Jack Johnson, Mike tyson,or Tiger Woods. The list goes on and on. Mayweather will be hated until hes gone from the sport of boxing. Only then will he get his respect. Boxers like LIL Floyd only come along once or twice every 25 years. Being black is a gift and a curse. We were the first to be created by GOD. Look it up!
you make some very interesting points which I think are not far at all from the truth but I won't go as deep as you into you but thanks for pointing that out.
I have no issues with Floyd vs Cotto. With that said it's the other way around. Floyd fans are bashing Cotto vs Pacquaio II and Cotto vs Margarito, then turn around and say they like Cotto vs Floyd. IMO I don't think Pacquiao fans have so much of and issue with the actual fight, but with the fact that Floyd said he isn't interested in boxing just a week ago (Only to hear rumors of a potential Cotto fight).
Honestly while I'm a Pacquiao fan, I can only speak for myself, and not his entire fan base. I really could care less who Floyd fights as I just don't like him as a person or as a fighter.
I respect your opinion my man but like I said I think both fights are as bad as each other.I would have rather had P.Will,S.Martinez in the equation instead as opponents for Pac and May albeit we all know what fight we really want..
I think the TS is blind and doesnt do research at all and all the FLOMOS who support him. Not everybody is bashing on mayweather, it's the fact that Mayweather DUCKED pacquiao. He said that he will be spending time with his family and not thinking BOXING and now he is negotiating with Team Cotto.
You don't think Pacfans hate the Idea of Margarito vs Pacquiao? You Retarded piece of crap go look www.mannypacquiao.ph they even have a thread agaist Pacquiao vs Margacheato.
Do some more reasearch you FLOMO!
blinded by what exactly..I like Pac mans come foward style and I like Mayweathers skill.just because I am making some points you cannot discuss because they are true, you are getting your knickers in a twist and insulting someone you never met and don't even know.
please brother,calm down..if you wanna be a gangster do it on the streets and not behind your computer,ok..
1.I did not say EVERYONE IS BASHING FLOYD.that is not my point.
2.As ive said no cotto-floyd fight has been mentioned apart from the fans and either way ive said both Pac-Marg and Floyd-Cotto are as bad as each other.
3.I am not a flomo, I like both Pac and May but am not blinded by foolishness like most on nsb.
4.read my thread again and answer what i have asked and do not answer irrelavant things like Pac-Marg being on a web site or whatever.
5.get your knickers out of that twist,be a man and lets talk like adults instead of insults cause they don't make you threatening or hard over the internet.
peace
I think the TS is blind and doesnt do research at all and all the FLOMOS who support him. Not everybody is bashing on mayweather, it's the fact that Mayweather DUCKED pacquiao. He said that he will be spending time with his family and not thinking BOXING and now he is negotiating with Team Cotto.
You don't think Pacfans hate the Idea of Margarito vs Pacquiao? You Retarded piece of crap go look www.mannypacquiao.ph they even have a thread agaist Pacquiao vs Margacheato.
Do some more reasearch you FLOMO!
ps-you call me retarded,yet you are the one who hates Floyd so much that you spent time making up that Avatar of yours because of some blind hate.then look at your silly,stupid user name..
and you have the cheek to call me retarded???
grow up!
Would you fight the lion if you already had 40 million in the bank?
haha.good point..lol..this thread is giving me some jokes.
id fight the lion as long as we tested up to fight night and 60/40 split.
in small print of contract : i will be allowed use of automatic hand gun.lol