To start off with I like both guys but the double standards due to the hate MOST you fans have against Floyd is so obvious to see.
I have heard fans bash Floyd for a Cotto fight which has not even been mentioned because Cotto has already lost twice yet you do not bash Pacman for fighting Cotto AFTER Cotto had already lost terribly against Margarito.Instead its a great Pac win..funny that.
Now Pacman is set to fight Margarito who has lost countless amount of times and was destroyed by Mosley..Mosley already took Margarito's soul so why is Pac not getting bashed on by fans?
BOTH Oscar and Hatton already lost to Floyd but Pac still fought them and was never bashed on for this regardless if he was the underdog or not these 2 guys had already lost to Floyd but again he gets a pass.
Clottey has lost all his big fights yet Pac decides to fight him but no one bashes him for it.
Roach tells the media that Pac cannot fight Mosley because Mosley is too good????????? WTF!!!!! No one bashes Roach or Pac for this..Pac could of easily came out and accepted this challenge but he did not.
I could go on here with this but I am not hating on Pac himself but on most of his blind followers and most the media who bash Floyd for one thing but let Pac off for the same exact thing.
Regardless if I believe Floyd ducked anyone,that is not the point.Why is Floyd a victim of this double standard??
Please try and answer this seriously without all the childish dissing and if you feel I missed things out then please do say,I am not perfect and I may have missed some facts/point but at the end of the day, it is clear to me that this double standards is going over the top and I would like to know why??
lets debate!
peace
ps - for the record I think Pac-Marg and Floyd-Cotto are as bad as each other.if I had to pay for one,I know which one it would be.What about you?
I think they are bashing Floyd for fighting Cotto NOW and retiring and avoiding him when Cotto was an undefeated titlist who had just beatin SSM at WW. Also bashing him if he plans to fight Cotto now instead of Pac, especially after stating he wasnt thinking about boxing when asked about Pac.
Also PAC was underdogs in those fights. so ppl give him more credit. Also Hatton was at 140, his best weight when Pac fought him. Pac started at 106, so ppl tend ot give him more cred for taking the bigger risks. Like if Floyd was to go up and face PW or Martinez.....
how long you been watching boxing? smh.....another pointless argument about nothing----floyd beat hatton and oscar first---and then manny fights them back to back----yet, cotto has a title at 154 and floyd won't fight him at a catchweight like manny did for his title----the double standards are rediculous---hatton's best weight was 140? why did he publicly duck floyd in 2005----manny fought hatton after hatton looked horrible against lazcano----pac's a big bitch--and so is his team--floyd fighting cotto is a slap in the face to manny---floyd wants to fight manny so bad, but he's going to prove that manny doesn't deserve equal share of the purse----
it'll be so funny when cotto vs floyd outsells manny vs cotto and margarito----
To start off with I like both guys but the double standards due to the hate MOST you fans have against Floyd is so obvious to see.
I have heard fans bash Floyd for a Cotto fight which has not even been mentioned because Cotto has already lost twice yet you do not bash Pacman for fighting Cotto AFTER Cotto had already lost terribly against Margarito.Instead its a great Pac win..funny that.
Now Pacman is set to fight Margarito who has lost countless amount of times and was destroyed by Mosley..Mosley already took Margarito's soul so why is Pac not getting bashed on by fans?
BOTH Oscar and Hatton already lost to Floyd but Pac still fought them and was never bashed on for this regardless if he was the underdog or not these 2 guys had already lost to Floyd but again he gets a pass.
Clottey has lost all his big fights yet Pac decides to fight him but no one bashes him for it.
Roach tells the media that Pac cannot fight Mosley because Mosley is too good????????? WTF!!!!! No one bashes Roach or Pac for this..Pac could of easily came out and accepted this challenge but he did not.
I could go on here with this but I am not hating on Pac himself but on most of his blind followers and most the media who bash Floyd for one thing but let Pac off for the same exact thing.
Regardless if I believe Floyd ducked anyone,that is not the point.Why is Floyd a victim of this double standard??
Please try and answer this seriously without all the childish dissing and if you feel I missed things out then please do say,I am not perfect and I may have missed some facts/point but at the end of the day, it is clear to me that this double standards is going over the top and I would like to know why??
lets debate!
peace
ps - for the record I think Pac-Marg and Floyd-Cotto are as bad as each other.if I had to pay for one,I know which one it would be.What about you?
Because they're(Pac,Cotto,Margarito) FIGHTING(you know, the thing boxers do) and Floyd is on VACATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......Simple...............
I dunno about the pactard cotto bashing...haven't read it on forums.
But i do know one double standard.
Why did floyd ask for OST during negotiations with pac even thought he never asked for it in his previous fights....before pac negotiations took place
At the end of the day if the fight aint pac vs floyd then the fight aint worth having :)
Answer 1: Team Pacquiao and Arum were well aware of OST at the start of negotiations. Check around.
Answer 2: “I am the one in charge, I’m the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes." - Alex Ariza
A Pacman victory against a bigger, taller Margarito will pave the way for a Williams, Martinez, Pavlik and Chavez Jr. fight, and Pac will have fought and defeated the 2 fighters Floyd had avoided.
By this time, PBF will have ducked the no.1 ATG in the planet, tainting his legacy forever, ignoring the 0 which other fighters normally have.
Junior Middleweight is now the most popular weight class in boxing. Manny Pacquiao made it so.
WAR PACMAN!!!
To start off with I like both guys but the double standards due to the hate MOST you fans have against Floyd is so obvious to see.
I have heard fans bash Floyd for a Cotto fight which has not even been mentioned because Cotto has already lost twice yet you do not bash Pacman for fighting Cotto AFTER Cotto had already lost terribly against Margarito.Instead its a great Pac win..funny that.
Now Pacman is set to fight Margarito who has lost countless amount of times and was destroyed by Mosley..Mosley already took Margarito's soul so why is Pac not getting bashed on by fans?
BOTH Oscar and Hatton already lost to Floyd but Pac still fought them and was never bashed on for this regardless if he was the underdog or not these 2 guys had already lost to Floyd but again he gets a pass.
Clottey has lost all his big fights yet Pac decides to fight him but no one bashes him for it.
Roach tells the media that Pac cannot fight Mosley because Mosley is too good????????? WTF!!!!! No one bashes Roach or Pac for this..Pac could of easily came out and accepted this challenge but he did not.
I could go on here with this but I am not hating on Pac himself but on most of his blind followers and most the media who bash Floyd for one thing but let Pac off for the same exact thing.
Regardless if I believe Floyd ducked anyone,that is not the point.Why is Floyd a victim of this double standard??
Please try and answer this seriously without all the childish dissing and if you feel I missed things out then please do say,I am not perfect and I may have missed some facts/point but at the end of the day, it is clear to me that this double standards is going over the top and I would like to know why??
lets debate!
peace
ps - for the record I think Pac-Marg and Floyd-Cotto are as bad as each other.if I had to pay for one,I know which one it would be.What about you?
lost this lost that.............i'm sure PAC HAS LOSSES ON HIS RECORD.....so your saying just cause a man got beat he is no longer shit? f*ck out of here. that's why once floyd loses that 0 he is no longer in his prime? who cares about floyd he has 1 loss (when the pac fight goes down).....that logic is idiotic.
pac is not the only one getting the double standard.....floyd is getting the reach around for his last two wins? so how are you acting like it's only a one-sided affair?
the reason they ride Floyds ass about everything, and hate on him is simple. He's black! Black Americans are always treated like that when there the best in there field and have not forgotten there roots. Cashis clay was loved by all until he saw the light,and changed his name to Muhammed Ali. Floyd has never forgotten his roots and where he came from, he's a proud black man. They will always hate and fear a strong Black man. The first cahance theyt get to put him away they will. Just ask Joe luis, Ali, Jack Johnson, Mike tyson,or Tiger Woods. The list goes on and on. Mayweather will be hated until hes gone from the sport of boxing. Only then will he get his respect. Boxers like LIL Floyd only come along once or twice every 25 years. Being black is a gift and a curse. We were the first to be created by GOD. Look it up!
Please learn to differential between 'there' and 'their'. Don't wanna be the grammarpolice but that's just very wrong.
About black people and people hating on blacks?
I'm from the UK and there isn't as much hate on blacks as u think there is.
I think usain bolt is awesome and so does the majority of people i know cause he is one cool laid back jamaican.
Whereas floyd is a big mouth bulls.hitter. Even If he was white, yellow, green or purple...people would still hate on him.
i know it has, hence him retiring instead of facing cotto at WW..claiming to be the GOAT then says " i aint calling out no WW's, im retiring".
he cherry picks , its that simple.
How can you talk with Berto as your Avatar????
Please try and answer this seriously without all the childish dissing and if you feel I missed things out then please do say,I am not perfect and I may have missed some facts/point but at the end of the day, it is clear to me that this double standards is going over the top and I would like to know why??
lets debate!
Are you new to this site or is this just a joke? If you expect the Pactards on this site to respond to this post (which I agree with, incidentally) without childish dissing, then you probably still believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.
FYI - the Floyd hating/bashing started long before Pac was this big but this was not the question of the thread.
laters,i got to go.
i know it has, hence him retiring instead of facing cotto at WW..claiming to be the GOAT then says " i aint calling out no WW's, im retiring".
he cherry picks , its that simple.
the reason they ride Floyds ass about everything, and hate on him is simple. He's black! Black Americans are always treated like that when there the best in there field and have not forgotten there roots. Cashis clay was loved by all until he saw the light,and changed his name to Muhammed Ali. Floyd has never forgotten his roots and where he came from, he's a proud black man. They will always hate and fear a strong Black man. The first cahance theyt get to put him away they will. Just ask Joe luis, Ali, Jack Johnson, Mike tyson,or Tiger Woods. The list goes on and on. Mayweather will be hated until hes gone from the sport of boxing. Only then will he get his respect. Boxers like LIL Floyd only come along once or twice every 25 years. Being black is a gift and a curse. We were the first to be created by GOD. Look it up!
Gimme a break, your not seriously going there are you. Lemme guess, Floyds big mouth has nothing to do with the way people perceive him. I'm sure it's "The MAN" behind all this. A huge conspiracy against Floyd.
Floyd talks allot of shit, he will be criticized for it..end of story.
I think they are bashing Floyd for fighting Cotto NOW and retiring and avoiding him when Cotto was an undefeated titlist who had just beatin SSM at WW. Also bashing him if he plans to fight Cotto now instead of Pac, especially after stating he wasnt thinking about boxing when asked about Pac.
Also PAC was underdogs in those fights. so ppl give him more credit. Also Hatton was at 140, his best weight when Pac fought him. Pac started at 106, so ppl tend ot give him more cred for taking the bigger risks. Like if Floyd was to go up and face PW or Martinez.....
how long you been watching boxing? smh.....
FYI - the Floyd hating/bashing started long before Pac was this big but this was not the question of the thread.
laters,i got to go.
To start off with I like both guys but the double standards due to the hate MOST you fans have against Floyd is so obvious to see.
I have heard fans bash Floyd for a Cotto fight which has not even been mentioned because Cotto has already lost twice yet you do not bash Pacman for fighting Cotto AFTER Cotto had already lost terribly against Margarito.Instead its a great Pac win..funny that.
Now Pacman is set to fight Margarito who has lost countless amount of times and was destroyed by Mosley..Mosley already took Margarito's soul so why is Pac not getting bashed on by fans?
BOTH Oscar and Hatton already lost to Floyd but Pac still fought them and was never bashed on for this regardless if he was the underdog or not these 2 guys had already lost to Floyd but again he gets a pass.
Clottey has lost all his big fights yet Pac decides to fight him but no one bashes him for it.
Roach tells the media that Pac cannot fight Mosley because Mosley is too good????????? WTF!!!!! No one bashes Roach or Pac for this..Pac could of easily came out and accepted this challenge but he did not.
I could go on here with this but I am not hating on Pac himself but on most of his blind followers and most the media who bash Floyd for one thing but let Pac off for the same exact thing.
Regardless if I believe Floyd ducked anyone,that is not the point.Why is Floyd a victim of this double standard??
Please try and answer this seriously without all the childish dissing and if you feel I missed things out then please do say,I am not perfect and I may have missed some facts/point but at the end of the day, it is clear to me that this double standards is going over the top and I would like to know why??
lets debate!
peace
ps - for the record I think Pac-Marg and Floyd-Cotto are as bad as each other.if I had to pay for one,I know which one it would be.What about you?
I think they are bashing Floyd for fighting Cotto NOW and retiring and avoiding him when Cotto was an undefeated titlist who had just beatin SSM at WW. Also bashing him if he plans to fight Cotto now instead of Pac, especially after stating he wasnt thinking about boxing when asked about Pac.
Also PAC was underdogs in those fights. so ppl give him more credit. Also Hatton was at 140, his best weight when Pac fought him. Pac started at 106, so ppl tend ot give him more cred for taking the bigger risks. Like if Floyd was to go up and face PW or Martinez.....
how long you been watching boxing? smh.....
Ohh trust me you are the one he needs to read your own writing/. Even your title sounds unbias but when you read it it is actually just for hating pacquiao. I use to like mayweather but mayweather change when he started to see pacquiao as a threat. He even use to come to watch pacquiao fight and cheer like a lil girl.
Did you say that pactards are hating on mayweather vs cotto and I just gave you my point how you look at it the wrong way. If Mayweather would have challenge cotto before this pacquiao thing nobody would have a probablem with it guarantee.. Anyways, I have to go somewhere important I will talk to you later.
I didnt mean to call you retarded and I am sorry If i called you flomo. Its just some flomos out here are plain retarded like mannie presh..
the only thing I have said about May-Cotto is that it is as bad as Pac-Marg.I am not sticking up for either fight.
anyway,I got me a lil big booty suprise coming over so I got to get ready for long night ahead..lol
am in London,England so its already midnight over here.
so peace and keep debating!
Yeah double standards as in its ok for Floyd to fight anyone under any circumstances, but for Pacquiao its never good enough. Like how all the Floyd cheerleaders picked Cotto to desrtroy Pacquaio but yet when Pacquiao won then all the sudden Cotto was washed up from the Margarito fight and Clottey had beat him in the fight before and all that bullshit.
I think the TS is blind and doesnt do research at all and all the FLOMOS who support him. Not everybody is bashing on mayweather, it's the fact that Mayweather DUCKED pacquiao. He said that he will be spending time with his family and not thinking BOXING and now he is negotiating with Team Cotto.
You don't think Pacfans hate the Idea of Margarito vs Pacquiao? You Retarded piece of crap go look www.mannypacquiao.ph they even have a thread agaist Pacquiao vs Margacheato.
Do some more reasearch you FLOMO!
ps-you call me retarded,yet you are the one who hates Floyd so much that you spent time making up that Avatar of yours because of some blind hate.then look at your silly,stupid user name..
and you have the cheek to call me retarded???
grow up!
I think the TS is blind and doesnt do research at all and all the FLOMOS who support him. Not everybody is bashing on mayweather, it's the fact that Mayweather DUCKED pacquiao. He said that he will be spending time with his family and not thinking BOXING and now he is negotiating with Team Cotto.
You don't think Pacfans hate the Idea of Margarito vs Pacquiao? You Retarded piece of crap go look www.mannypacquiao.ph they even have a thread agaist Pacquiao vs Margacheato.
Do some more reasearch you FLOMO!
blinded by what exactly..I like Pac mans come foward style and I like Mayweathers skill.just because I am making some points you cannot discuss because they are true, you are getting your knickers in a twist and insulting someone you never met and don't even know.
please brother,calm down..if you wanna be a gangster do it on the streets and not behind your computer,ok..
1.I did not say EVERYONE IS BASHING FLOYD.that is not my point.
2.As ive said no cotto-floyd fight has been mentioned apart from the fans and either way ive said both Pac-Marg and Floyd-Cotto are as bad as each other.
3.I am not a flomo, I like both Pac and May but am not blinded by foolishness like most on nsb.
4.read my thread again and answer what i have asked and do not answer irrelavant things like Pac-Marg being on a web site or whatever.
5.get your knickers out of that twist,be a man and lets talk like adults instead of insults cause they don't make you threatening or hard over the internet.
peace
the reason they ride Floyds ass about everything, and hate on him is simple. He's black! Black Americans are always treated like that when there the best in there field and have not forgotten there roots. Cashis clay was loved by all until he saw the light,and changed his name to Muhammed Ali. Floyd has never forgotten his roots and where he came from, he's a proud black man. They will always hate and fear a strong Black man. The first cahance theyt get to put him away they will. Just ask Joe luis, Ali, Jack Johnson, Mike tyson,or Tiger Woods. The list goes on and on. Mayweather will be hated until hes gone from the sport of boxing. Only then will he get his respect. Boxers like LIL Floyd only come along once or twice every 25 years. Being black is a gift and a curse. We were the first to be created by GOD. Look it up!
you make some very interesting points which I think are not far at all from the truth but I won't go as deep as you into you but thanks for pointing that out.
Why does it bother me?? Cause am a real boxing fan who does not get lost in all the hype and sees things as they are unlike some.DAMN IT!! haha
The jokes aside, you make some good points.
I'm a real boxing fan too.
You know what I have learned from the internet boxing site's I post at? No retarded fan base (Floyd's, Pac's, Cotto's, Margo's, Williams, Bradley's, Hatton's, UK, Mexican, Rican, Black, White, Old school, New school) will ever change that.
It only bothers you if you let it.
Cause people (that includes the media) hate Floyd. Those same people (that includes the media) love Pac.
I know you want some sort of "NASA" type answer, but it is really that simple.
Not to mention, there are double standars all over the fight game right now, not just with these two fighters. These two fighters are not bigger than the sport, and it will go on with or without them.
To be all real, I don't know why it bothers you. I use to hate certain fan bases, but know I just don't care. Why should I?...
Why does it bother me?? Cause am a real boxing fan who does not get lost in all the hype and sees things as they are unlike some.DAMN IT!! haha
The jokes aside, you make some good points.