Hindsight_2010

In the end the fighter is the one fighting the fight...whether or not he takes on the advise of his trainer is totally up to the fighter. Khan fought with Garcia's fathers words in his ear...and he DID NOT fight the he should've fought. Which was to box a brawler (Garcia); Khan fancied himself a KO artist w/c is furthest from the truth. And now he's blaming Roach for not giving him more time in training???? Wow!!! "It's a poor musician that blames his instrument." Khan played exactly into Team Garcias hands, by letting all that was said before the fight get to him. Khan should put the blame on his lost to Garcia on the man he sees in the mirror. Shame on you Khan, if you want to leave Roach just say so and be a man about it! B/c that's what he really wants to do...and should he leave Roach this will be the last we boxing fans here in the USA will see Khan fighting here.

Funny. Pac is so upset about JMM wearing a shirt that he wants to brutalize him. Yet, Mayweather makes racial slurs, and "falsely" accuses him of illegal PED use and Pac wants to take him to court. You hit Fraud where it really hurts...his wallet.

You dopey cunt. What about demanding a catch-weight for Cotto when Pac had already fought at 147? What about waiting until Mosley was nearly dead ? What about using 8oz gloves in a JMW title fight for a vacant title against a well-faded welterweight bum? What about ducking Marquez for three years and then dragging him up to welter? You fkn idiot. Your the dopey cunt! At least Pacqiao fought Cotto and won!!! Can Mayweather say the same??? Mosley was old when he fought Fraud also, so both PAC and Fraud fought an old man...Fraud just did it first. 8oz. Gloves could've been negotiated - and when did Fraud fight Margarito?? Oh yeah NEVER!!! B/c is too scared to fight any legit fighter that can KTFO his A$$!!! As far as Marquez is concern, at least Pacqiao fought him FIRST at Marquez's weight class, where Marquez was at his most dangerous (130&135lbs.) TWICE!!! And didn't come into fight night over 15lbs. heavier than Marquez. Even at their third fight (PacvsMarquezIII) the weight discrepancy come fight night will be about 4-6lbs. So who's playing at a level playing field and who isn't?!? YOUR THE STINKING TWAT!!! You fish

or did they stipulate in the contract a MINIMUM weight...??? :D Why don't you find out for us - if their is a Rehydrateing Clause in the contract or not?

Everyone and their mom knows it's Arum that's holding up this fight!!! Manny and Jr. already expressed how they feel about fighting each other and it's only the "Bobfather" pulling the strings to "halt" any progression of this mega fight to come to fruition.

Oh well, I guess the little sparring time with Roachs professionals didn't do much in the end.

If Cotto started training early...I think we all know the reason why. He's overweight again...and the only way to get into shape is to start early. First week or two to concentrate on losing the weight slowly.

What??Jmm is a beast at WW and will walk thru Mannys shots Your joking right, how many times did fraud KD JMM? Yeah right on dude, a beast...right. You who's a beast at WW? a fighter that KD Cotto, that KD Mosley and made both them go on survival mode for the remainder of their fights. A fighter that fractured Margaritos right orbital bone. And all this while HE WAS IN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION!!! How many times did JMM fight at WW? Once, and he didn't look like a beast, more like a lethargic old man. So no beast w/Marquez at WW.

Wow, uncle roger can sure speak along time without really saying anything. floyd, why don't you fight him winner take all, yeah, didn't think so chicken! @#%$ not sure who's more afraid of manny, him or his uncle...shameful! and you call yourself black (no racism intended), you're both yellow... If Roger said that it would be an easy fight, why not just fight PAC now without any test? If PAC was such an easy fight; oh yeah, fraud wants a level playing field - if that's so, why resort to mind games? If you want a level playing field? Flomos, this your que to chime in and defend your hypocritical god, fraud.

WOW!! Kizer is talking about drug testing over lunch with Arum...and the commissioners will structure testing to a fighter's demands. I GUESS MAYWEATHER DOES RUN THE SPORT. Floyd making big things happen. :boxing: But did you read any of Frauds team at the meeting(ellerbe, hayman, or any of the GBP promo team) - you know the people who started all the accusations at the meeting? Nope. Kiezer even said that USADA did not give them any information to when the blood/urine was drawn/collected, or any results of said collected specimens. Only that as stated by USADA, if there was any positive results you (NSAC) would here about it. IMO, NSAC should be notified when the sames were collected and be the first To know of ALL RESULTS both positive and negative. B/c they are the governing body, not USADA - and definitely not team mayweather.

And also POOCHIAO is FAMOUS for demanding CATCHWEIGHTS to his oppenents to have the ADVANTAGE And catchweights are new to the sport of boxing right? And Pacquiao is the only boxer in the sport of boxing that uses catchweights right? Your an idiot, catchweights has been in the sport boxing for years. Manny isn't the only one to use it, retard.

what other dreams you have cuz that one right there sounds cool:boxing: Dreams of trying to sell some more tickets like Fraud is having; heard they are comp'ing the tickets now in a room deal. Wow!!! How the might hath fallen. And with the withdrawal of Matthhyses from the Morales fight really hurts the ticket sales I bet.

Are leg cramps the universal excuse for a bad performance? Haters gonna hate, but that's ok. I guess you guys never exerted yourselves athletically and gotten a leg cramp. That's cool. At least he got the "W," and thats what matters.

Most celebrated/respected historians/analysts had Marquez winning the first fight, and the entire developed world saw Marquez win the second. Dont give me that scoring mistake bullsh1t, Pacquiao should have either been deducted a point or DQ'd for hitting Marquez while he was on the deck, I had JMM winning that fight by at least 2 rounds. " Pacquiao got a boxing lesson, we all know who won that fight " ~ Floyd Mayweather Jnr And if you think that Manny won the second fight go check out the look on his face just before the winner was announced. He was a beaten man, even Jinkee knows Pac lost that fight. Pacquiao is a cowardly b1tch for ducking Marquez for 3 years and then finally agreeing to fight him AFTER the entire world saw that he cannot hang at welter. And Fraud was a coward little b!tch for fighting a LW at a bloated weight then coming into fight night over 10lbs Marquez fight night weight. Let's call it fair, both Pac & Fraud are coward little *****es that could've made the fight at 140lbs but both B!TCHED OUT TO 144lbs.

What a truly selective viewpoint you have :nonono: Pick your standards up off the floor, instead of using the whiney excuse "oh, but Floyd fought him first", use some common-sense..... ..... when Mayweather performed the same b1tch-move and tried to pass off that bout as a competitive match-up, what did you learn from the fight? When Mayweather fought Marquez, nobody knew how JMM would handle 147, now we KNOW that he looks fat old and slow at welter. But Manny is allowed to do it because Floyd did it first, right ? Ya dumb kid, according to Michael Koncz, Pacquiao ducked JMM for 3 years because "Marquez has Manny's number"..... give yourself an uppercut genius, because the only reason why Manny has finally agreed to fight Marquez is because Pac KNOWS that Marquez cant hang at welter. Why do you think that Pacquiao demanded a catchweight that he cannot even make himself? If Mayweather hadnt fought Marquez and exposed him at welter, Pac would never have agreed to fight him. Your quoting Micheal Konz? How desperate do you have to get to make a point? Micheal Konz, really? PAC fought JMM first at JMM's best weights - one draw, one split decision. Fact. Fraud made a LW come two weight divisions because JMM called him out. Fact. And who's the dumbass kid who quotes Micheal Konz, don't tell me that you actually thought that Marquez had a chance at Welter? You are a boxing imbecile for even mentioning that no body knew what JMM was capable of at welter - b/c even casual boxing fans knew that a LW has no business at WW. Fraud claims that he fights only people who are on a winning streak, yet still ducks the only fighter on a 14 fight winning streak. Your telling me if Fraud hadn't beaten Marquez Manny wouldn't have given the 3rd chance - you moroon, Manny already has beaten Marquez at HIS BEST WEIGHT DIVISIONS! Not at a bloated 144lbs. If Fraud had any balls he would've meet Marquez in the middle. And Fraud even came in 2lbs HEAVIER ON WEIGH-INS! Lead Your stupid.

Marquez deserved it hands down. Manny hasn't been KO'd in ages and the way he did it to one of the top dogs of the sport should have easily had him FOTY. Looks like Boxingscene trying to build Donaire up after Pacquiao's KO loss. Did Marquez allow himself to tested 24/7/365? No...probably b/c of Memo. I give Floyd credit for initiating testing to be in boxing. But what Donaire is doing, took volutary testing in boxing into another level. That you have to give credit to. Plus he fought 4x in one year with top 10competition.

Pactards are the kings of excuses,they have an excuse as to why pac always fights bums coming off of devastating defeats margs,cotto,,mosley, or bums who were always bums,like clottey,diaz,or washed up old farts jmm,delahoya,barrera,morales,mosley.they have excuses as to why Pac never fights top welter or even jr middles since hes this 8wt champeen,like Sergio or any other top guy.he never fights anybody with a chance at winning and thats how Pacroids like and thats how his fans like it.Sergio has been calling out Pac forever again you hear excuses hes too small,his vagina hurts blah blah blah,.They only see that JMM was knocked down and dont see that JMM got up 4times in two fights to outconnect ,and win at least 20 rounds out of the two fights.A judge can put anything on paper,but what happened in the ring speaks for itself and will never change,Jmm simply kicked that ass twice!In a pacturd mind the fights began and ended with the knockdowns which were great knockdowns.One has to realize Pacman is a GOD to these people why I dunno, but hes a GOD in their mind hes never done anything wrong in their mind he hasnt lost a round even though thats totally untrue, and in their mind all the bums and no-hopers he keeps fighting must be legit because their God chose it that way.What gets me is they are the most jealous fans Ive ever encountered they cant stand it when Pac gets outperformed, by Jmm,Sergio,Gayfeather,or any other top fighter not named Pac.,I mean for yrs theyve been mecilessly knocking mayweather after a 2yr layoff for facing Jmm when he was liteweight and now their guy is doing the exact same thing!! hell even worse!!! JMM is almost 40 and is still a liteweight whats that make them??? more importantly whats that make PACMAN???its absolutley true- Pac is THE garbage disposal of boxing the guy only fights everyone elses leftovers!!!!!Theyre all mad because its true the criticismis of Pacman are true and it strikes a nerve because its true, and theyll write lies and pure rubbish to prove otherwise but fans who know boxing know whats up. Your an IDIOT, you have lost your rep here along time ago. Btw, JMM IS 38y/o - his b-day is 08/03/73 (don't know why you keep on insisting that he's 40y/o; your arithmetic needs to improve); and is currently being on the top 5 P4P list for Ring Magazine and Sprots Illustrated considered a bum? NOT!!! Marquez IS 38y/o; IS the current the WBA & WBO Lightweight Champion, IS considered the top 5 P4P fighter by Ring Magazine & Sports Illustrated. And is considered by boxing scribes the only fighter on the planet that has Pacquiaos number. Marquez is NOT A BUM!!! as you have mentioned him to be.

Bushbaby, my question to you is if Fraud only fights fighters on a winning streak why hasn't he fought a fighter who is on a 14 fight winning streak since his last fight? Please answer me that? Oh by the way, if you haven't figured it out yet, the fighter w/the 14 fight winning streak since his last lost (to Morales) is PACQUIAO.

that is why I think this going to be an exciting fight. Much more exciting than that Fraud vs. a very inexperienced Ortiz.

I agree man, Pacquiao is a two-faced coward. Scared of needles, what a fukwit. "Manny Pacqiao, yes, your next." then "I never said that I was fighting Pacquiao next, so don't put words in my mouth." ESPN article.

Roach w/the team is a jole and undemines the coach as they w on't fight a pro style...better rep for the Olympics and a under=rated and better trainer than roach is Louie Bueke, trainer of Austin Trout and who kicked roache's ass 2x as a pro... I'm sorry did they ask Louie Bueke to be the assistant coach? No. Enough said then.

In the end it is always Arum It's always Arum BRAH!!! He's the reason that Pac/May never happened. And he's still the reason that Donaire/Mares isn't happening now! I don't know, maybe Arum thinks that Donaire/Mares needs more stewing time; to build up more anticipation and hence more money. Because you have to admit, besides for the aforementioned debacle of PAC/May fight - Donaire/Mares is one of the most anticipated fights of 2013. At least for the diehard boxing fans; the lay public havn't heard of both Donaire and Mares. Hopefully, the Donaire/Rigondeux fight happens in April; then Donaire/Mares in September/October. F_ck! A boxing fan can hope can't he!

Hatton does look in a lot better shape & should stay that way & hopefully could become a good trainer, but he also looks a lot older than what he actually is(he's only 34 & he looks like he's in his late 40's to early 50's) B/c COCAINE is a HELL'aVA drug!!!!

Why do people write that Floyd took off vacations and layoffs? Floyd only took 2008 off in 15 years. He fought in December of 2007 and came back to fight again in 2009. How many vacations and layoffs is that? Isn't that only one hiatus? Is it important to make it seem as if Floyd has taken off several times to support the notion that he's avoided fighters? LOL ... within the year that Floyd had left boxing, the two boxers that pactards claim that he ducked were both knocked out. Each within 8 months of supposedly reaching the top. I would agree with your point about Floyd's skills deteriorating if he wasn't a gym rat. That would be a solid point if the reality of the situation was different. As was said, we will see. We have not seen any evidence of Floyd slipping, but time will tell. His domination of Mosley in a "walk 'em down" style match should have made many believers. But some just like to talk trash. Its their right to do so. No evidence so far, but I wonder why his own trainer/uncle said that floyd needs mire tune up fights? And if floyd takes on Pacquiao right after Ortiz that would be a big mistake. Not only Roger but Sr. also said any fighter off that long will have some rust that he has to shake off with a couple of fights. This isn't me saying this but Floyds own camp/relatives. I wonder why my brother?

I remember when Manny didn't even know that he had a bank account somewhere and some lady was taken money out of it. Also, Manny signed an agreement with Top Rank to promote him but took a suitcase full of cash from Golden Boy. It's obvious that he doesn't care how the money comes just along as he gets paid. Bob Arum is totally controlling Pac's career. And f*ucking sucking on The tit of his cash cow for as long as he can!!! F*U*C*K Arum!!!

Link please? Hernandez/Heredia is a snitch, to save his own ass. At least Conte did time for what he did. As far as I know, he didn't snitch. EPO,HGH & roids dealing that's one thing - but to snitch on people that you were dealing to SHOULD EARN YOU A BULLET. Snitches get stitches baby!!!

He's faught nothing but senior citizens, his whole career is based on that. Fighting fighters once they're washed up, like a dog picking up the scraps. That's what he will be remembered for. Having fans with North Korean like mentality, but no talent to back it, just a bully to senior citizens. Who says '' lol owned'' What are you 13???? ODLH, JMM & SSM are the only ones that I know that are over 4yrs Pacquiaos senior. Every fighter that Pac fought other than these three are ~ 1-2yrs Pac's age - you are wrong with the senior citizen premise.

edgarg your correct, I stand corrected. I meant stealthily...from a foul mouth heathen.

leonthegee - Pacquiao vs. Jr. will never be inked; not on May 5th, not in Nov. 2012. We all know who is to blame for that - Not Pacquiao, Not Jr. (because they both have acknowledge that they both want the fight to happen, even Pacquiao said that he'll take the lesser cut of the purse). Everyone all knows that ARUM is the stumbling block for all these years. Who cares who is picking who...Arum will do his best to make sure that this mega fight never happens.

NO EXCUSES NONITO!!! No my trainer was training me over the phone BS and I have to have shoulder surgery! You lost, but more importantly you got "SCHOOLED" by a guy you thought was worthy to fight you! WOW! How ironic is that? But I do believe that this will be the last time we will see Garcia in Donaire's corner. Robert wasn't at Donaire's camp for the most of Donaires camp...b/c of Rios? Has anyone heard about this, if so can you confirm?