I think Max Kellerman explained this perfectly well. These “super” or “franchise” titles were created so that fighters with multiple belts don’t get stripped because they cannot fight every mandatory in each organization. It becomes almost impossible for them to meet these obligations.
The WBA super belt requires the champ to fight anyone in the top 10 of any organization. I don’t know if that’s the same for the WBC franchise though, but the intention behind it is similar to the WBA super belt.
Just proves what everyone already knows...all the belts and designations are just ridiculous. However if these fighters actually fought more than once and in a good year twice they might actually be able to make the mandatories. Of course its not all their fault the sanctioning bodies and their rankings are beyond stupid as well
This is where that super series would come in nicely if the fights could be mandated. Maybe super six with Tank, Haney, Teo, Garcia, Loma, and Shakur
But I think Teo has 1 maybe 2 more fights at 135. I know he's waiting on Taylor-Ramirez though theres a slight chance the winner may jump up to 147.
Haney will continue to be frozen out, he needs to pull a Mosley and jump to 147 or at least go up 140 because he probably wont get anything. Or at least have his promoter actually work in his behalf. He can honestly build him as the most avoided man in boxing just like Bhop when nobody really wanted to fight him.
Garcia is a star in the making like De la Hoya but I wonder if they will protect him and match him carefully or if Oscar will try to cash him out and go for broke with a Tank fight due to his contract most likely being up soon and Canelo-Reynoso lurking.
Tank seems to be so protected and only interested in fighting smaller fighters.
All well and good but how many PPV buys does this translate into. So far its a whole lot of talk but nothing definite. Mayweather was talking about Rolli Romero for Garcia. This is where both Garcia and Tank will need to take control of their careers and make the promoters work for them
Im good with him being stripped. Tired of fighters sitting on and babysitting the belts. The Frampton fight should have been done by now. Shakur would be waiting until the end of the year for his shot. Arum has said that Loma only wants to fight for belts so since Loma's been WBO champ at 130 before and held the title at 135 maybe he petitions and gets a high ranking because he's certainly better than other fighters ranked there. Loma vs Shakur for the vacant WBO 130 title is a bigger and better fight than Herring-Frampton
A champion should fight to win the belt. All this elevating and emailing is yet another problem with the alphabet organizations coupled with the pay to play ranking scale. If Loma ducked and was stripped or the title was vacated it should be fought for and not emailed or just given.
Love the Hooker-Ortiz fight though I'm skeptical it actually gets made
Boots needs to fight. I'd love an Ugas fight but I doubt Ugas does that. So maybe fight Rashidi Ellis, Sergey Lipinets, Custio Clayton
Crawford should test the waters at 154 by fighting Teixiera getting that 4th weight class title and then see what happens. By that time maybe Manny or Spence or somebody at 147 is ready to fight and if he's comfortable at 54 then a fight undisputed at 154 would be big PPV. Charlo could fight Hurd in the meantime. While big bro fights Andrade at 160. Put it all on PPV as card
The WBO needs to give Porter a deadline on whether he will activate his mandatory shot. There are plenty of other fighters that are willing to fight for a title. **** or get off the pot. Vergil Ortiz is in the number 2 spot.
Agree 100%
So this opens the way for Spence vs Ugas or Crawford vs Ugas. If Crawford really wants that 50-50 or wants to make an argument for 60-40 his way he needs to get in on the Ugas fight to try to get another strap.
Or imagine they did a co-feature PPV like the Charlo brothers did and had Spence-Ugas headline on end while Crawford-Porter or Crawford- Thurman headlined the other
Berchelt will be a good fight. Seems like thats the name he keeps dropping. If I were I'd also be trying to grab Diaz' belt too. I think he's going to be waiting on Frampton-Herring. So Diaz, Colbert, Alvarado all of them he should go belt hunting and then try to fight Tank.
On a side note...Watching him and Bud walking around though it seems like Shakur is just as big as Bud lol. He's definitely got to go up in the future. I think he was even over the limit at 1st for this fight.
No mention of Stevenson. I thought when Berchelt dropped out with Covid they would give Shakur the fight against Valdez but Shakur says dude dont want to fight him. Im starting to wonder now
More WBC bull****. Why do all this ruling. If Oubaali and Donaire were going to fight with the title on the line but got cancelled due to Covid, just redo that fight and be done with it. Its simple no need to sanction interim bouts and champion emeritus and recess champions and all that. The guys got a virus should be fine now so have them fight and keep it moving
Yea they should keep postponing this until its out of these fighters head. All the old man play fights are tiresome and unnecessary. Just be retired and promote or train. Cant relive the glory days. These guys actually fought enough in their careers and made good fights so be content with that
No way they getting 50/50 for Pacquiao. Crawford honestly needs to get rid of his while management and promotional team. Spence needs to stop doing whatever Haymon tells him and demand the fight
Maybe just maybe they get Lomachenko to move back to 130 and be ranked highly by the WBO and that fight happens.
I understand not wanting to wait with all the uncertainty. It does seem weird that all 3 fight under Top Rank and the Herring-Frampton fight was just announced today. Something's off here. People will say the pandemic but this was signed during that time too right? If these fighters fought as much in the ring as in courts and arbitration boxing would be lovely.
As far as potential opponents honestly it doesnt look good with Valdez already fighting Berchelt the next highest contender is the little known Jeremiah Nakathila who's been calling for a shot at Herring too. I think it could be possible that maybe Shakur moved up his timeline because the winner of Berchelt-Valdez especially if its Berchelt might move up. A better matchup might be with Navarette moving up. Navarette being champ at 126 is clearly big for the division and even there was a question in June about whether it was time to move up. Stevenson-Navarette for the vacan title might be better than the rest of the stuff
Floyd is doing nothing but hurting the sport and Devin should stop the fan boy worship and call a spade a spade. Floyd love saying you dont play boxing but thats exactly what this is. Nothing but a cash grab but definitely hurting the sport.
What happened to jumping up to 168 and fighting for the title there? I dont know about Liam Williams but it's not a name. However if Andrade wants to really make big fights then he should become the mandatory for Saunders. If he wins that fight then Canelo is there. Both Saunders and Andrade are promoted by Hearn so this should be no problem. What is this guy waiting on?
Figured he would pick DAZN. Seems like they've been dragging their feet though because this should have been done. 2 fight deal, fight the bs mandatory in February then fight Saunders in May. Afterward Canelo is a free agent again and able to fight Plant in September. Whats the hold up??
Bro, boxing is what have you done for me lately. All those BS P4P, belt holder, etc., don't matter at all in real life once you lose, and embarrassingly at that in Loma's case.
Fortuna and Haney have been waiting for that belt for a very long while, along with all the other top 5-10. Campbell is having 2 shots at the WBC. Something not making sense to me here.
Loma deserves nothing. He needs to prove himself.
Exactly why I called it a mythical thing. But name a fighter on Devin's resume thats a bigger known name. Im not advocating for Loma Im trying to get Haney's resume up. Plenty of guys deserve the shot but who's gonna actually fight. Thats why 8 ask who do you want Haney to fight next realistically