What the hell are you going on about Martirosyan? Nobody says he's a ducked fighter.
I've read it multiple times in this forum. I think a search would do the trick. Although, I've read some of the comments above about Vanes crying about being avoided and being a boring fighter. Interesting stuff.
Anyway, interesting comments all around. I didn't mean that Cotto was accused of being a cherry picker. Instead, he's known NOT to be a cherry picker, and I just wanted to highlight that fact because now people criticize him for picking Delvin as an easy fight. Nothing wrong with picking an easier fight to build confidence, but Delvin is no tomato can as people are now saying. Before the fight, I read tons of posts saying that Cotto could lose, that Delvin gave Trout all he could handle, etc. Now, predictably, these same people are saying that it was an easy fight to begin with. These people also forget that Cotto picked Trout, of all people, to restore confidence after losing to Mayweather, and against everyone's advice (as posted earlier).
Anyway, just giving respect and mad props to a fighter I've always admired. And another very important point: Win or lose, no matter the opponent, Cotto NEVER gets involved in a boring fight. You always get your money's worth in spades, which is not the case with many of the so-called "must see TV" fights we get these days.
-Flood
AWESOME video! Wanted to watch again but link is broken. Could you please repair the link or otherwise post a new link? I'm trying to show it to a buddy.
Very original, unbiased thread. Would read again.
And NSB is full of original, unbiased threads. I bet all of yours are original and unbiased. Smh.
It's a legitimate question. Pac is probably the most infamous boxer regarding catchweight demands due to his smaller size and advantage-seeking against opponents who he knows will suffer by trying to reach the catchweight. This ploy, along with his devastating defeat to JMM 4, has limited his appeal in getting the most lucrative fights. Canelo has said that he won't even go down to 152 after the CW Mayweather demanded. Pac couldn't convince Cotto for a fight recently b/c he wanted the fight at 150.
Who's left? It's a legitimate question. No need for punk-ass feeble sarcastic replies. State an opinion or move on.
I think you're a pitiful alt
Easy to make assumptions out of your ass. No, I'm just a long-time observer who rarely posts. Look at my join date before you fire off dumb-ass remarks.
Interesting. Which win are you referring to, Canelo? His most infamous catchweight I believe was against JMM. Btw I don't particularly favor Mayweather or Pacquiao, and tend to root for Cotto. It's just that the Pac catchweights are just too glaring, repeated, and damn obvious to me.
Who is left?
JMM, Thurman, Provodnikov, Matthysse, Maidana, Khan, Garcia, Crawford, Broner
I agree, some of these fights are interesting, but then most are with Haymon and not Golden Boy or Top Rank. Also, not lucrative and would not reach anywhere near 800k buys, which seems to be the key to making these fights per bullsh*t boxing politics. Therein Manny's problem.
As for JMM 5? Please no.
In Puerto Rican, being upset with Martinez for lying about his knees and failing to be a competitive opponent makes you a "Cotto hater".
Who the ph*ck made you all of a sudden Martinez's spokesman? Martinez said it was the left hook, DiBella...hell, even the doctors said Martinez was fine except for a broken nose. What could possibly motivate Martinez to "lie" when he admitted that he was hurt and disabled before and during the Murray fight? Too much butt-hurtin' going on around here after ridiculous predictions that a 50% Martinez would finish up Cotto. Btw I've seen Puerto Ricans also post the same deluded comments that I've seen you post discrediting Cotto's superb performance, so don't generalize.
I've never used that as an excuse. There is no doubt that Cotto is my absolute favorite fighter, but it's my responsibility as a boxing fan to be realistic and objective. I don't think any version of Cotto beats Pacquiao. Like I said, he's my favorite, but I understand that there are better fighters, mainly Mayweather and Pacquiao. Cotto's success and willingness to fight everyone has certainly made him one of the era's greats though and a lock for the HOF. He's a true throwback and an excellent ambassador for the sport. I'm proud of him.
Are you kidding me?!? If Marquez could plank Pac in their last fight, and judging from Pac's subpar performances ever since that fight, Cotto could most definitely beat this version of Pac. However the fight's never gonna happen 'cause Cotto is not falling for the catchweight trick again. There's no way he's gonna fight Pac in any weight less than 154, plus he has two other lucrative fights to look forward to without draining catchweights in Canelo and Mayweather rematch.
First fvck u for being an alt. You can't post and make thread from your real account because you know your thread is garbage.
Floyd has nothing left. Schafer still under contract for 2 years in GBP which mean he can't work to anybody. TMT Promotion is just a decoration without any license to promote nor a capacity/machinery/money to promote a big fights and so did Haymon. I don't even think they can get date to schedule their fights which is mostly controlled by Top Rank and GBP.
Great, I guess anybody who has a different opinion to this retard is an alt. Ph*ck you back. I happen to agree that Floyd doesn't have much else to pick from b/w 147-154, but then my thread wasn't about Floyd, was it? You're just exposing the fact that you're a ******* by emotionally lashing out when someone criticizes your hero instead of actually offering an opinion.
Better luck next time. "Thank you, come again".
I just don't see it!! Sure, I understand he did something somewhat legendary*catch weight* by being the first PR to win a title in 4 divisions but you're failing to realize apart from that, his resume doesn't speak loud.
One great win(handicapped or not/on paper) in the last 8 years(going back to Mosley fight) does not put you in top 5 status.
I think even Froch has a better resume than Cotto.
You're never gonna see it, 'cause judging from your picture in your sig, you're a Cotto hater no matter what. That much is evident from your multiple posts trying to discredit his win against Martinez. Even if he were to beat Pac or Floyd in a rematch, GGG, or any other so called ATG, you're still gonna find a way to put him down and come up with some lame excuse to discredit any of his wins.
A win over Judah who was 0-1-2 in his last 3 fights? Ur high. + Cotto low-blowed Judah like a wuss to get a physiological advantage. Weak move by Cotto.
Even weaker move by your guy Margacheato using plaster to beat up on boxers. Your avatar exposes you for the Cotto hater and Margacheato fanboy that you are.
I agree with the first two but who is considered P4P and what the fighter actually is in the ring is a different thing. P4P rankings are based on past performances and respect. Realistically Martinez should not have been all that high on a P4P list if you considered his "win" over Murray. Not to mention he was a shell of himself on fight night. He probably still deserved to be up there but again most of his status on that list is based on his history. I still say that JCC Jr. ruined him as a top fighter.
Until this last fight and maybe the Murray fight, everyone was chomping on Martinez's jock strap as being a top 3 P4P, at least in the current era. And he defended the lineal middleweight title multiple times. How quickly people forget when things go south. Yet still people are saying that Pac is a current P4P when he was knocked out cold by a fading JMM with a lucky punch. I guess it's all subjective, but IMNSHO Martinez certainly has given a good account of himself in his career. Unfortunately his opponents at middleweight were not up to the task reputation or skill wise, and he was most definitely avoided by the 154 pounders of his generation. Sucks for him, but at least he can consider retiring with a more than decent payday and a guaranteed HOF entry.
I agree. If this fight happens I will bet a large amount on Canelo to win.
And you would lose a lot of money. Cotto's skillset >>> Canelo's by faaarrrr!!!
Only one guy this generation has fought opponents who were considered:
#1 P4P (Floyd or Manny)
#2 P4P (Floyd or Manny)
#3 P4P (Martinez)
His name is Miguel Cotto.
This, this right here.
Ha.Cotto would see what a middleweight left hook to the body looks like. Not even getting on his bike would save him cause GGG cuts off the ring.
As for the second comment Pacquiao, Mayweather, and Austin Trout beg to differ. Lets not count Margarito because of the plaster, but the other 3 fights he lost and they weren't even close. You embarrass PR ppl and true boxing fans.
No. YOU embarrass yourself with your pitiful comments, as well as those who had a 50% or less Sergio destroying Cotto. Fact of the matter is you can't ever know how Cotto would do against GGG 'cause they will probably never fight. It has nothing to do with cowardice, and everything to do with the fact that GGG can't sell a seat compared to other potential fights out there, plus Cotto retiring soon and most probably and justifiably choosing the most lucrative fights after paying his dues. Cotto has fought the best, a fact that neither Mayweather nor Pacquiao can claim. Much less GGG, who has only fought tomato cans compared to Cotto.
After the Sergio fight, I would expect most people here to acknowledge that fighting quality opponents in your career makes a difference in the outcome of a fight. However, it seems that people continue to choose to be blind. That's alright, keep losing your money while we laugh all the way to the bank.
I know Gamalier Rodríguez personally. This kid should not be overlooked, he has skills and is 110% dedicated to his craft. He will at least make an exciting fight.
Make it happen!!!
This kid Gamalier Rodriguez is no joke. I've met him personally. He trains hard and is very disciplined, completely dedicated to the sport. This fight is gonna be extremely interesting, make it happen!