Pacman stated a million times that he won't fight anyone over 150, so he has basically taken himself out of contention from Canelo, Cotto and basically all interesting and lucrative fights. Pac thus has NO ONE interesting to fight anymore, as Mayweather is running scared with ridiculous excuses to not fight him. Who the hell wants to see JMM 1,000, Bradley 500, and other snoozefests under Bob Arum's sleeper of a stable?
The interesting and beyond lucrative part of his career is basically done, and he won't ever make more than 800k buys, or even reach close to that number anymore, unless he changes his tune with respect to his ridiculous catchweight demands.
Thoughts? Opinions?
Interesting. Which win are you referring to, Canelo? His most infamous catchweight I believe was against JMM. Btw I don't particularly favor Mayweather or Pacquiao, and tend to root for Cotto. It's just that the Pac catchweights are just too glaring, repeated, and damn obvious to me.
Well Pac asked for his first CW in his 7th division, 10 above his starting. Floyd couldnt go 5 without one, and he also became lineal at a CW which is some serious history cheating. Cotto himself imposed 2 CWs, same as Pac but in only his 3rd and 4th division. Plus he won a lineal belt at a cw, AND requested a cw and rehydration clause for a title defense vs one eyed noncontender. So if cw bother you, you ll find these 2 are MUCH worse offenders dumbo alt
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Floyd is the original catchweight king, he fought a CW before Pac and even failed to make weight when he fought Marquez at 144 cw.
Funny how when Pac was signed to fight the beast Cotto at 145 they started crying catchweight king to discredit Pacman for fighting the Cotto that Floyd ducked for years they even said Cotto was damaged good to touch all bases just in case Pac wins.
Then when Floy fights Cotto all of a sudden he was fresh? so how can someone who is washed up all of a sudden fresh? oh because they must praise Floyds opponents, they even said Maidana was more dangerous than a prime Pacquiao.
Its clear they are haters who dont want anyone but their king they idolize to get praise.
I wish people would stop bringing up catch weights. They've been around for years. It's a dumb way to discredit somebody.
you hit the nail flush to the wood......
cws are agreed by the contending parties....
signed, sealed and delivered...
so why the crying and discrediting on cws......
can't see why people can't see clearly on cw issue
I wish people would stop bringing up catch weights. They've been around for years. It's a dumb way to discredit somebody.
Your hero said he would never....oh wait a minute.:lol1:
It's not so much that Pac is running out of options and opponents. It's just his signing an extension with Top Rank was a huge mistake; Given the Promotional company's very small stable of talent.
I truly believe and I might be wrong on this one but Top Rank is on its way out of business. At one point they had the deepest roster of fighters in all of boxing but now their talent pool has become so very sparse to the point of them recycling rematches to the public and forcing current fighters to sign extensions in order to secure their guarantees.
Bob Arum wants Cotto to stay with Top Rank but he doesn't have any qualified opponents to challenge him. He has even gone so far to propose a potential Cotto-Bradley mismatch on us boxing fans now for crying out loud; These are just a few of the tell-tale signs that things must not be going so well over there.
The truth is, he needs Golden Boy a lot more now than Oscar needs him.
It's no so much that Pac is running out of options and opponents. It's just his signing an extension with Top Rank was a huge mistake; Given the Promotional company's very small stable of talent.
I truly believe and I might be wrong on this one but Top Rank is on its way out of business. At one point they had the deepest roster of fighters in all of boxing but now their talent pool has become so very sparse to the point of them recycling rematches to the public and forcing current fighters to sign extensions in order to secure their guarantees.
Bob Arum wants Cotto to stay with Top Rank but he doesmn't have any qualified opponents to challenge him. He has even goneso far to propose a potential Cotto-Bradley mismatch on us boxing fans now for crying out loud; These are just a few of the tell-tale signs that things must not be going so well over there.
The truth is, he needs Golden Boy a lot more now than Oscar needs him.
I disagree based only on the hope that Golden Boy and Top Rank work together now since the split with Schaefer/ Mayweather. Pacquiao is still a capable and dangerous opponent.
Who is left?
JMM, Thurman, Provodnikov, Matthysse, Maidana, Khan, Garcia, Crawford, Broner
I agree, some of these fights are interesting, but then most are with Haymon and not Golden Boy or Top Rank. Also, not lucrative and would not reach anywhere near 800k buys, which seems to be the key to making these fights per bullsh*t boxing politics. Therein Manny's problem.
As for JMM 5? Please no.
First fvck u for being an alt. You can't post and make thread from your real account because you know your thread is garbage.
Floyd has nothing left. Schafer still under contract for 2 years in GBP which mean he can't work to anybody. TMT Promotion is just a decoration without any license to promote nor a capacity/machinery/money to promote a big fights and so did Haymon. I don't even think they can get date to schedule their fights which is mostly controlled by Top Rank and GBP.
Great, I guess anybody who has a different opinion to this retard is an alt. Ph*ck you back. I happen to agree that Floyd doesn't have much else to pick from b/w 147-154, but then my thread wasn't about Floyd, was it? You're just exposing the fact that you're a ******* by emotionally lashing out when someone criticizes your hero instead of actually offering an opinion.
Better luck next time. "Thank you, come again".
Why is everyone asking who should Floyd fight? And people are also saying, Manny has no one to fight in Top Rank?
As if no one knew the answer to who both should fight 5 years ago
Name calling and catchweight blame games aside, OP has a point. TR has nearly run out of options for Manny. JMM V would sell reasonably well but JMM doesn't seem to want it; there's absolutely no interest in Bradley III or Rios II; Alvarado is damaged goods. The only realistic opponent left is Provo.
BUT if TR and GBP do make peace and start working together, there will be plenty of interesting options for Manny (the ones Weebler listed).
Pacman stated a million times that he won't fight anyone over 150, so he has basically taken himself out of contention from Canelo, Cotto and basically all interesting and lucrative fights. Pac thus has NO ONE interesting to fight anymore, as Mayweather is running scared with ridiculous excuses to not fight him. Who the hell wants to see JMM 1,000, Bradley 500, and other snoozefests under Bob Arum's sleeper of a stable?
The interesting and beyond lucrative part of his career is basically done, and he won't ever make more than 800k buys, or even reach close to that number anymore, unless he changes his tune with respect to his ridiculous catchweight demands.
Thoughts? Opinions?
First fvck u for being an alt. You can't post and make thread from your real account because you know your thread is garbage.
Floyd has nothing left. Schafer still under contract for 2 years in GBP which mean he can't work to anybody. TMT Promotion is just a decoration without any license to promote nor a capacity/machinery/money to promote a big fights and so did Haymon. I don't even think they can get date to schedule their fights which is mostly controlled by Top Rank and GBP.
Interesting. Which win are you referring to, Canelo? His most infamous catchweight I believe was against JMM. Btw I don't particularly favor Mayweather or Pacquiao, and tend to root for Cotto. It's just that the Pac catchweights are just too glaring, repeated, and damn obvious to me.
gotta laugh when mayweather fans call pacquiao the catchweight king when floyds best win in donkey's years was also at a catchweight. Do they not realise that they are also diminishing their idol as he can be tarred with the same brush? :lol1:
Very original, unbiased thread. Would read again.
And NSB is full of original, unbiased threads. I bet all of yours are original and unbiased. Smh.
It's a legitimate question. Pac is probably the most infamous boxer regarding catchweight demands due to his smaller size and advantage-seeking against opponents who he knows will suffer by trying to reach the catchweight. This ploy, along with his devastating defeat to JMM 4, has limited his appeal in getting the most lucrative fights. Canelo has said that he won't even go down to 152 after the CW Mayweather demanded. Pac couldn't convince Cotto for a fight recently b/c he wanted the fight at 150.
Who's left? It's a legitimate question. No need for punk-ass feeble sarcastic replies. State an opinion or move on.
Pacman stated a million times that he won't fight anyone over 150, so he has basically taken himself out of contention from Canelo, Cotto and basically all interesting and lucrative fights. Pac thus has NO ONE interesting to fight anymore, as Mayweather is running scared with ridiculous excuses to not fight him. Who the hell wants to see JMM 1,000, Bradley 500, and other snoozefests under Bob Arum's sleeper of a stable?
The interesting and beyond lucrative part of his career is basically done, and he won't ever make more than 800k buys, or even reach close to that number anymore, unless he changes his tune with respect to his ridiculous catchweight demands.
Thoughts? Opinions?
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