if the current p4p #1 and a past p4p #1 are overrated, than you should honestly stop watching this sport :rofl:
Why do you constantly stalk my posts? I deleted the original post, but you still replied to it. Why is that?
Your serious a flomo if you think Oscar was in his prime when Floyd fought him. Neither Pac or Floyd fought an in his prime Oscar. Both fought an out of his prime Oscar and only 1 did what he was suppose to...you don't win via SPLIT decision to a man whose a shell of hs old self. Sad.
It was a better version of Oscar, you idiot. And it wasn't a close fight. If you think it was, it's obvious you didn't watch the fight.
all I can say is; some guys on here are lucky i'm not a Admin cuz i wouldev banned some retards with their shitty threads;
Halleluja.
Please don't bring your verbal diarrhea into my thread.
Uh hey dork. Floyd only won that fight by split decision and you have NO idea which version was better.
If you thought it was close just because it was ruled a split decision, you must've not watched the fight, noob.
what proves you are a better fighter? losing a controversial decision to one of the top welterweights or beating ricky quiles? whoa he was coming off a win over a bum impressive. dont use any critical thinking just look at boxrec.
Where exactly did I say Clottey was a worse fighter than Vargas?
I'm just saying that they both won their titles in a very similar manner. So if you don't regard one as a real world champion, why regard the other?
so in your opinion, Genaro after 15 years was exactly where PAC is now?
Since when is every fighter's prime the same? Hernandez is not Pacquiao. I never even implied that.
pacquiao has fought 10 times against top 10 p4p fighters. mayweather 5.
pacquiao has fought 6 fights against first ballot hofers. mayweather 1.
At what stage, in their careers, were those top 10 p4p fighters and those hall of famers at?
Let's do a run down of the hall of famers Pacquiao beat, shall we?
De La Hoya - Past-prime. Weight-drained. Mayweather fought the better version.
Marquez - Arguably lost against him.
Barrera - Fair enough.
Morales - Past-prime and weight-drained. Yet, Morales still managed to beat him once.
Cotto - Weight-drained.
Hatton - Past-prime.
i know lol i didn't realize gregorio vargas was a champ cause he won 1 title fight at featherweight 7 years before he fought floyd. what a meaningful win.
And Clottey won a vacant welterweight title by a headbutt cut, in the only title fight he won in his whole career.
Well by your logic, Morales was younger than Hernandez, was he past his prime?
Considering that Morales was coming off a loss to Zahir Raheem, I would think so.
Who was Hernandez coming off a loss to? DLH about 3 years before.
You get out here your Flogic aint flying. It did not test Morales... Where in that fight was Morales tested. Morales got out slicked in that fight.
I'm not going to be discussing boxing with you, anymore. When you actually study up on a fighter besides Pacquiao, come back and talk to me.
i can play that game too for floyd's opponents.
delahoya - past prime
genaro - old as hell , past prime
corrales - weight drained , not mentally prepared for fight because he was going to prison
hatton - had to move up to 147
marquez - natural 126 fighter had to fight at 140
baldomir - no explanation needed
De La Hoya - The version of DLH that Mayweather fought was better than the version Pacquiao fought.
Hernandez - 32 is really old? With only one prior loss in his career? :lol1:
Corrales - Odds were against Mayweather.
Hatton - Better than the version Pacquiao fought. Weighed around the same amount as Mayweather on fight night.
Marquez - Didn't match size against Marquez but only boxing ability. The same boxing ability that gave Pacquiao the fights of his life.
Pascal is a good fighter but Dawson is just too skilled for him. He might not have the advantage in power, but he has the advantage in speed, defense and pure boxing ability.
who has won more fights against world champs? pacquaio
Rematches against fighters that you clearly beat are better than new fights against different world champions?
who has beaten a higher pedigree of world champ? pacquaio
There's various circumstances surrounding Pacquiao's biggest wins. To a more questionable degree than Mayweather's.