yes, you fucked up from the beginning, that was my point.
i just wanted to tell u that i never disrespected no fighta here but you kept bringing up "i'm a boxer" bull shit, which had nothing to do with the posts...
i noticed, basically, all your counter argument is "i was being sarcastic." do u know how many times u were being "sarcastic" in this thread?
and u use too many of those smiley faces, that is too fucking gay. and you also managed to upload some midget's picture to diss me, which is also fucking gay, pathetic as well.
Sarcasm is angers cousin :mad: . The sarcasm in this thread was generated from the Hatred on Duran by many of the Pacfans. So anyway, are you saying I cant use all the smiley faces that i desire :confused: :(
Yes no comparison, but they have similarity in opponent rivalry.
Hearns,Hagler,SRL
MAB,Erik,JMM
Duran fought Biggers guys above his weight class.
same as Pacman came from 106, and make a name at higher classes.
If i remember correctly, Duran started at 118 and captured titles at 135, 147, 154, and 160. That would be the equivalent of Pacman fighting at 147 and winning titles at 147 over fighters like Hatton, PBF, or Cotto.
i personally think tito cheated vargas.if it wasnt for that vicious low blow vargas would have beat tito
Was he beating Tito? NOOOOOO!
I think that the Vargas/DLH fight would have been different only that it would have ended in a UD for DLH.
lol... he was able to quote you and point out that you had contrasting statements... which was to prove that you were lying and trying to prove a point by doing such... sush... :p
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Originally Posted by El Invicto
Im new to boxing but has Cotto been KOed(sarcasm)? I know Pacman has, but I don't recall cotto ever being knocked out?
This was in response to someone saying that Cotto has a glass chin. The sarcasm in this post is evident, it you are unable to note that, you must not be very intelligent. Some people post stupid things that should only be responded to sarcastically.
cotto is a c+ fighter right now...a converted southpaw who is extremely shaky...mayweather would abuse him this is his last year at 140 hatton looks to be his next fight ..hatton can box he will embarress cotto
This has nothing to do with the thread, and just to inform you, Cotto is not a converted southpaw.
I guess C+ is good enough to be undefeated against solid opposition and be a world Champ. :eek:
can't yu say anything better than that??? can't you stay off the sarcasm issue??? you are sarcastic... and what? you're so good at english now??? you said your black and your english is not english anyway so why bother?
Quisas no sabes hablar o entender ingles correctamente. Como no puedes entender ingles, te lo voy a explicar en espanol. Mama huevo, bendejo, piensa en pacman y al te una puneta pensando en el?
Understood?
lol... like what i have said then and now, stick around some more before you generalize... on the same context, pacfans just "retaliate" to threads and "ridiculous" topics like this one... and about comparing pac to duran, is it really that stupid??? so its ok to compare morales with duran then for it to be fair??? is that what you are saying???
it's just comparison bro... look at the replies to the thread, all say duran is far more superior but pac is still young... whose fan are you then i'll try generalizing fans of your fighter, lol...
Ive seen the replies, not all, but many of the Pacfans say continue to state things like "no mas" or "he is a quitter who lost the the elites". I seriously doubt that those individuals have ever seen duran fight. Anyway, I didnt mean to generalize, if you are not a dimented pacfan, im sorry. Just spread some advice to your fellow pacfans about being respectfull of a great fighter.
im too stupid to notice but if ur a boxer, y dont you train instead of studying smiley faces to tell which one looks sarcastic.
and you still haven't answered my question, why did you quote me in your previous post??? like i said, i never disrespected any boxer.
bc I can :eek:
I don't think Leonard was the greatest lightweight, IBRO does !!
I vote Joe Gans # 1, Leonard #2 and Duran #3 although I consider all three of them P4P top 10 material. The Lightweight division is very deep. However, Benny Leonard in many ways is the Muhammad Ali of the lightweight division he faced and defeated the best collection of contenders ever to appear in one time in the division. Stylistically, I also think he can beat Duran who was troubled by clever boxers who could move such as Edwin Viruet, Vilomar Fernandez etc.
It should be noted that Ray Arcel who trained both Leonard and Duran rated Benny Leonard as the greatest fighter he ever saw.
Thank you for expressing your opinion. I respect your opinion, but IMO Duran is the best 135. He is also in my top 5 P4P ever. He accomplished many things in different weight classes. His passion, hunger and entertainment value was very unique.
most stupid post on this thread. an e-challenge to e-box. maybe you could e-whoop his ass w/ your e-uppercuts?
That is what I intend to do :eek:
Wow you guys really don't know sarcasm when you see it?
Very similar? Well, I would consider that a compliment. Thanks. He's the best poster here with the best record in predicting fights. Im a newbie, that's a hell of a compliment.
Not educated? How? I asked you a simple yes or no and yet you can't answer.
Is that educated?
Classic Mannyp behavior, you deterred my question and have yet to respond.
So let me ask you once more; If a fighter like JLC gradually jumped up to fight a middleweight like B-hop and lost, would you base his ability on that loss or on the rest of his career?
Wrong.
I will just reiterate the points.
Duran is a "no mas" quitter and he got beat by all the elites of his era. And he got beat bad. It's either via a humiliating decision or a KO or he got so frustrated he quit.
A lot of people point out the Duran's greatness emanates because he had numerous titles on different weight divisions. Fine, if that's how you base your arguments, fine with me.
But the bottomline is, he lost to all the elites of his era. And the only reason why stayed so long is because in his prime, he handled his money affairs so bad, by the time he realized it, he was already broke as brokeback. He stayed so long only because he needed the money.
In your opinion, if Pacman fought at 140, or 147 and was KOed by Mayweather, Hatton, or Cotto, what would you say about Pac?
those are correct comments... he destoryed them... it's just your pride that won't let you accept it... besides, you not liking comments like that and then you say:
which is bullshit. Just because marquez is a good technical fighter does not mean he schooled pac... Pac's style was just good for his style. Did you know that he made just 10 punches more than pac??? lol...
Yeah I guess a Draw is a destruction? LOL And what do you mean by my pride? I am a Black American man who speaks fluent spanish. Im not hispanic.
you really are an idiot.
and i don't intend to box you so stop mentioning "streets" and "boxing" and all that...
Are you too stupid to notice the sarcasm in that post? Hint-The rolling eyes.
It is amazing to me how so called "boxing fans" so freely call pro fighters BUMS. Guys that do what you could only dream of doing. You watch them, they dont watch YOU. And when it is over for them you call them BUMS. You must be very proud of yourself (and so brave, too. Boxing fans like you are the reason most professionals HATE coming to these message boards 9and rarely do).
I respect all pro boxers, and you have all the reason to be upset about some of these kids, that claim to be "boxing fans", that say Scotty is a bum, or Duran was a bum, JCC was a bum, etc etc. It is evident who is and who is not a true boxing fan.
if anybody is getting worn down by body shots its cotto
When has Cotto been worn down by body shots? Those UK low blows and hits behind the head will not be tolerated in the US.
i have a question why does everyone always bring old shit up when everyone knows manny is a different fighter now thatn back then? this is just hate comin from some mexican fans who still cant accept that pac TKO'd two of mexico's greatest boxers
ok he got kd but that does not change the fact that he TKOd barera and morales, and if manny had a weak chin then why didnt he go down from morales punches from the first fight
dont come with that "dont involve other boxers" shit that is a fact, he didnt go down and when was the last time manny got beaten by a KO? or when was the alst time manny was kd?
when was the last time that guy who kd hm won?
I completely agree with you, but you must not forget that threads like this are initiated because of the ridiculous threads that are swormed with Pacnuthugging (e.g."Pacman, the poor mans duran"). Im not insisting that you are a pacnuthugger bc i have not seen enough of your posts, but some of the pinoy fans are seriously the most biased fans that I have ever encountered. You must expect people to retaliate against the Pacnuthugging threads, because they are ridiculous.
One of your fellow Pinoys said "Pacman has way more skill than Duran ever had, he is already past Duran". Meanwhile this member has probably never watched a Duran fight.
ok bro, with regards to respecting great fighters, i hope you also remind your general boxing fans to stop picking on pac just because he destroyed the 3M's... give some to get some :D
Those kind of comments are the ones in which I am refering. I don't want to start a potentially long discussion here but when you state the 3 M's, are you including Marquez? Marquez made Pac look like a novice after the first couple of rounds. Did you see that fight?
Hey dumbfck, there's a guy called Benny Leonard. You ever heard of him?
NO need to involve profanity, I have attempted to have a civil discussion with someone who obviously lacks the intelligence to carry a normal discussion.
Benny Leonard........ you should have specified. Ring magazine is more credible than IBRO. Also.... You have not convinced me.
reasons... you're just trying to find a way to get out of it... lol...
I think that English may not be your primary language. If it was, you would have obviously understood the post as being sarcastic. :(
I predict that Malignaggi will put too much gel in his hair and be blinded by the chemicals in the gel once he starts sweating. This will result in Cotto landing a huge left hook on the point of "Magic Man's" chin. Cotto wins KO 2.