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If McCline wasn't such a pansified weiner, I would give him a great shot at winning. McCline, however, freezes up when someone fights back. Byrd, although a miserable token of a heavyweight, will fight back (complete with unbearingly annoying "WHOOOO!"'s and head shaking whenever McCline does anything). My consistent general belief is that fighters like Byrd kill boxing. Watching him fight is akin to having your teeth pulled with pliers. He will, however, win this fight.

Tarver in a snoozer... Tarver will wear him down and bust him up in a boring yet decisive decision win. Although I will be hoping Johnson knocks his teeth out.

True, i think alot of people will put Ali in their #1 position because they don't know better, they think he's the best because they don't know enough about the other fighters, so they pick one alot of people use. No? That is a very good point. Alot of people put Ali as number one because he had the biggest mouth. He's certainly the most famous heavyweight ever and, I think, one of the top champs ever...but he was NOT the best. I would also like to make a couple of other observations: 1. He could be deragatory and hateful. He called Joe Frazier a gorilla because his of his real black skin and he did in front of Marvis Frazier. He said Frazier was ugly, that he was gorilla, and that he was "d-d-d-dumb." That sort of racial hatefullness was uncalled for, for whatever reason, especially not to promote a freakin fight, especially after Frazier had helped him, especially at that uneasy time in our nations history for African Americans, and especially when Frazier's son heard it all. (As a sidenote that also triggers a racial undertone, Ali spoke adamantly about the dirtiness of interracial marriage.) 2. Ali was no rocket scientist. He was a great fighter, but he got used as a pawn by some of the more militant forces that got him to say really stupid things (see interracial comment above) that I hope he didn't actually believe. Those things have always bothered me about Ali the man. And no, I don't hate him. I think he did alot for the sport and fighting wise he was truly a real good fighter. But I admit that I did feel somewhat vindicated for ole' Smokin' Joe when Frazier asked Ali years later "whose d-d-d-d-dumb now?" "Who w-w-w-won those fights now, Muhammed?" on some radio show. It was inappropiate, but I could understand where Frazier was coming from. O.K., everyone unleash on me...

Quartey all the way.... Quartey hurts Kostya....bad. The rat-tailed Russian pops his head up and holds it there when he gets hit square. Quartey would stun with a jab and lower the boom with the right hand.

Jirov vs. Holyfield.... Jirov should target Holyfield if Holyfield eeks by Donald. Holyfield is so far, far, far gone that Jirov could get a real big name on his record fairly easy, I believe. Plus, Holyfield fights his worst againts smallish heavyweights.

Had heart, but not now... I thought De Lay Hoya actually had a quite a bit of heart until he went down like a $5.00 call-girl against Hopkins. I've watched that tape a dozen times and there is no doubt in my mind that he folded it up and called it a night by his own volition. He just didn't like the fact Hopkins was getting to him. That said, however, he showed some steel earlier in his career against Quartey and Vargas especially.

Hmmmmmm........Ali's "technicals skills" were suspect????!!! Thanks for educating me......I've been following the sport for over 40 years and always thought that his skills were what set him apart. I mistakenly thought that he was a student of the sport..taking the best of Archie Moore, Joe Lewis, Gene Tunney and others and adapting them to fit his style. Silly me! Live and learn, I guess!! :rolleyes: Well at least you can admit your mistake! Gas Ped is exactly right, I Ali indeed was never that technically sound AT ALL. I'm no Ali hater either.

Worst Loss ever.... Seeing Richard Steele stop the Chavez/Taylor fight with 2 seconds life nearly shut my heart down. I was also really pulling for Holyfield over Lewis the first time around. That loss/draw of Holyfield was hard to take because of my intense dislike for Lennox Lewis. Trinidad getting bitch slapped by Hopkins cut real deep too. Seeing Leonard lose (which if we want to be perfectly honest about it, he did) to Hagler was rough as well.

Trinidad v. Taylor.... Just a comment on an earlier post regarding Trinidad v. Taylor....Trinidad hurts Taylor bad and quick... Hopefully we will see that one some day.

Taylor v. Chavez....down with Richard Steele!

Brazil Pinto has a heart, just not skill or a chin. Freitas is the much worse case. No matter what he does, he will always be the guy who quit against Corrales, period. Always. Don't quit in boxing. Ever.

I thought Corley fought really well considering, he was out weighed, had the ref against him, a dirty fighter on his hands, not to mention fighting in another country. Cotto shouldn't feel real good about this fight. It proved nothing. I realized tonight just how dirty of a fighter Cotto really is. Nasty.

Tonight we saw one of the worst refereeing that I have ever seen in my life. The referee was very incompetent , he repeatedly let Cotto hit Corley after the bell, he let Cotto push Corley down, he let Cotto hit Corley while he was holding him and on the break. The ref took points away from both fighters for low blows without even a single warning. Miguel Cotto came into the ring outweighing DeMarcus Corley by almost 20 pounds. Corley was 140 pounds while Cotto came in the ring weighing a very unfair 157. The weight advantage was apparent in the first round as Cotto rushed Corley and tried to put him away in one round. Corley went down in the first from hard shots, rather then cave in, Corley started to stand and fight Cotto toe to toe. Cotto lost a point in the second round for a bad low blow. In the third round the fight swung in the other direction. Corley rocked Miguel Cotto and had him out on his feet when he landed a chopping right hand to the head of Cotto in the first minute of the round. If the opponent tonight was Tszyu, Mayweather or Gatti, Cotto would have never made it out of the round. Cotto had no idea where he was for almost two minutes as Corley went with the wrong gameplan to finish the job. Corley decided to attack the body of Cotto rather then the head, Corley admitted after the fight that he blew the chance to knock Cotto out. details] It was a totally bias, disgraceful call. Additionally, Miguel Cotto continues to strike me as a really good, strong fighter, whose only real super talent is being a middleweight who can make 140. That said, Corley's protests fall on pretty deaf ears to me because he totally blew his chance to take Cotto out. Cotto was really ready to go, not simply stunned, but hurt in that bad way that lasts minutes. And for whatever stupid reason, Corley simply walked Cotto around the ring throwing one punch at a time. It wasn't that Corley was going to the body instead of the head, it was that he was throwing one mediocre shot at a time. He ought to be ashamed of himself as well. He blew it.

Tyson v. Tua: Hard and fast one way or the other.

Vitali will win... Say what you will about Vitali's highly intense, homo-erotic poses with his brother (see photogallery on this site), I don't think he should have any trouble with a lazy, light-punching tubby who has no real confidence or courage. Just my thought anyway.

Frietas out of the picture..... Freitas is a non-entity to me as far as watching boxing. He did the cardinal "no-no." He quit. No matter what excuse he may (or has) give, he is a quitter. When it got hard and it hurt, he laid down. As a fighter, he should fight to the end...go out on the shield to use the cliche. There have been some comments in this line that Freitas shouldn't have put his health at risk for the entertainment of a few fans...To that I say the fans are the ones paying him (indirectly) and if he is worried about getting hurt then maybe he look should for alternate employment....like being a receptionist at a kid's dentist office. To say that he shouldn't have put himself in danger is a comment rooted in idiocy, this is boxing, not golf. Of course he should have risked his health. I have never been able to stand Fernando Vargas- but I respect the fact that he fights till he drops (and he often does drop). Gatti doesn't even need mention...

Byrd is unwatchable..... My personal position is that I cannot stand to watch Byrd fight. It is a miserable experience. An evening at the fights where Byrd is on the card finds a fan watching him slap opponents, yell "WHOOOOO!" 400 times every fight like he is mildly retarded, and spend the other half the fight shaking his head at opponents. If he does get beat, he is in constant denial (although is not alone in that one), never giving an opponent props. After getting his ass whipped (albiet closely in the Golota fight, NOT close in Oquendo fight) in his last two fights, he has acknowledged his opponents were "tough." I will say this in closing, although Byrd is absolutely UNBEARABLE to watch (WHOOOOO!!), he is more entertaining than the John "The Tumor of Boxing" Ruiz-Louise.

Roy would have handled Gerald but would get a taste of leather a few times.Aaron Pryor beat Thomas Hearns as a amateur but I know for certain that would not had happened in the pros Pryor beat Hearns in the amatuers? I didn't know that. But I do agree, Hearns would have seriously hurt Pryor in a pro-fight....maybe real bad.

Whoooo!! WHOOOO!....slap.....slap.....head shake and smirk....WHOOOOO!!!!....slap...head shake and smirk..... That's a Byrd fight. The guy blows.

The quickest ever...Thunder v. Grimsley I don't know if someone has already said this on this thread, but Jimmy Thunder pulverized Crawford Grimsley on Tuesday Night Fights with the first punch he threw. Grimsley was still throwing punches at ghosts when he was on the floor. It was like 14 or 15 seconds, maximum. They literally walked straight to the center of the ring, Grimsley threw ought a lazy jab and Jimmy Thunder brought a right hand over the top of it, if I remember right.

I would note that "14 or 15 seconds max" includes the 10 count.

maybe I missed this point in the article, but does it mention the obvious benefit should Byrd beat Wlad? If Byrd were to beat Wlad, Vitali would have to challenge Bryd to defend his brothers(or the the families) honor. The Klitschko always challenge the one that defeats the other. I think Brewster is the only one not to get called out. Plus Byrd has a "win" over Vitali, so the match sets itself up. If Byrd really wants a shot at Vitali, he should def. fight Wlad wherever Dons wants to set it up. I think the reason that Byrd should fight W.Klitch again is that Wlad kicked the ever living hell out of him in the first fight. If he wants to be a considered the real heavyweight champion (and he's not right now)- well, champions get vengence. If one recalls that fight, Byrd was NEVER competitive in the fight for one single minute. It was a really humiliating loss and Byrd's face was swollen really bad, he got the craps...it was just an ugly, embarrassing situation. Byrd bitching out afterward and blaming some Klitchko conspiracy made him seem that much more of a weiner. And if he was ever going to beat Wlad, now is the time. I think he would be a betting favorite, even after having his ass kicked the first time. Just my thoughts.

Ahhh like getting their brothers to avenge their losses? Come on. By your own logic, Wlad should be fighting Sanders and Brewster again before there's any talk of him fighting for a title. Byrd did lose to Wlad years ago, but since then has won and defended his title several times without getting KO'd by fringe contenders. Wlad needs to earn his way back into the picture. There's no denying it. Hey, I won't disagree with that at all. But I never said Wlad was a champion either. He's not and never was. Byrd wants to be something different...well to do that he has to fight Wlad again after being his party boy the first time around.

yeah but u can say the same for B-Hop hes never faught a real middleweight, and he never went up or down to fight anybody. Hopkins has fought at least 8 or 10 true middleweights (or heavier) that I can think of right off the top of my head, Johnson, Echols (who is huge). I'm no Hopkins fan, but don't misrepresent his record.

This is an idiotic fight for Mosley. In fact, any fight above 147 pounds is an idiotic fight for Mosley. He should have never moved up so much. He could have become a legend in the lower weights. Its not like it was killing him to make weight- in fact I think he completely skipped the 140 pound division. It was that he became a weight freak and married a psycho. Wright will handle the more muscle-bound and thus much slower, plodding Mosley quite easily.

I like Rocky the best. Also, I almost hate to admit "Gladiator" with Cuba Gooding, Jr. and some white boy wasn't that bad.

Ali's footspeed wasn't that great.

I've never really thought about it like that, but it seems to make sense.

Could McCline be the guy to unifie the titles? Could McCline be the guy to unifie the titles? NO. He is a 270 pound weiner. He's probably crying right now thinking about his fight with Chris "WHOOOOOO!" Byrd. To his credit however, he'll wait to hyperventilate until his ring entrance.

Some people on this thread are saying that Sturm is a bad fight for Tito. I respectfully disagree...I think Sturm is perfect for Tito. He cannot hit that hard and Tito can be hit and he isn't fast or technical enough to stay away from that left hook. Remember that Sturm looked his best against a fat De La Hoya. Look for Trinidad to pressure hard and land something big, maybe early given Tito's recent propensity to come out of the gate hard.