lol hes says he out boxed Loma in sparring and says he would beat Tank and GGG easy if he were in the same weight class.
He's mad because of this video, watch older vid's of this kid riding with Loma saying he beats Linares easy. He also basically confirmed what one of Loma's trainers said in this interview he did only good for 1 round then he ran and held. Once Loma put the pressure like he does in all his fight in the later rounds fighters tend to break.
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Ryan Garcia and his mighty penis would rip the piss flaps of your mum's vagina, mate.
Unfortunately, he never fought anybody and fought in Argentina his entire career. There was plenty of guys to fight at that weight too. Not sure why he never fought anybody. Don't know his story.
Locche never fought anybody you say ? He fought Ismael Laguna, Carlos Ortiz and Antonio Cervantes twice. That's just three off the top of my head.
I missed Cervantes, my fault.
Just looked at Ortiz' and Laguna's records and I don't recognize a soul on any of them. How come none of those guys fought Duran? They were around at the same times.
Jesus lol. Ortiz is one of the top 10 greatest lightweights of all time. His resume is stacked. He's probably top 5 tbh. Laguna fought Flash Elorde, Ken Buchanan and Vincente Saldivar, don't you recognize those names ? Elorde is one of the great Filipino fighters. Buchanan is one of the great British fighters and Saldivar is one of the great Mexican fighters.
Besides Locche, no? I do see a name on there, but none of you would recognize it. I know it because I knew a guy who fought the guy. Other than that, heard the name Buchanan, but never seen his fights.
How about you?
I've heard the name Buchanan around.Elorde, nah --- never heard of him.
Vincente Saldivar beat one name I recognize which is Sugar Ramos. Never heard of no Saldivar before.
So you've never heard of Eder Jofre ? One of the greatest of all time.
Prograis hits HARD and Ramirez is not hard to hit
Give me Prograis Middle Round Stoppage, I said Prograis will have a Break Out year in 2018 and I stand by that!
Prograis looks the goods but Josh Taylor is a real problem for him though. Hopefully get to see that fight at the end of the year.
Duran would have KO'd him at the weight in.
Haha true. I'm sure we'll hear Duran's reaction on this fight soon. He won't be pleased with the way Floyd fought that's for sure.
But we are not in a cage, its a boxing ring and the giant of UFC with a 20+ pound advantage back peddled all night until he was chopped down and stopped by a frail 40 yr old. that really happened lol.
No ****. I watched it live. I'm still not that impressed by Floyd's win since Conor won some rounds and that I know for a fact a 40 year old Roberto Duran would have savaged Mcgregor very early.
I believe Mcgregor would take Floyd out in the Octagon way easier than he was beaten by Mayweather in a boxing ring. Even a closer to prime version of Mayweather would be destroyed by Mcgregor. Floyd wouldnt even dare go there though.
I'm not even a UFC fan. It's just simple physics.
I thought it was obvious I have seen plenty of mcgregor in the cage. He's no wizard on his feet, and his "light footedness" lasts about 5 minutes.
He wouldn't need to last long against Floyd though. He'd have Floyd out of there inside a round.
What if floyd was a super middleweight? The one with the longer reach, weight, then his natural talent of speed of foot and hand? He'd probably wack mcgregor once and he'd be out. This is what i'm saying, obviously he wouldnt last with mcgregor in the octagon, the disadvantages are too many.
Even in the ring the only advantage floyd had was boxing experience and speed.
It wouldn't matter. A guy as skilled in MMA as Mcgregor would toy with any version of Floyd. Mcgregor is very persistant and effective with kicks which are truly debilitating when delivered by a guy as skilled and agile as Mcgregor. Floyd wouldnt know what the fvck was happening to him being striked by bone breaking leg kicks. Especially since his skinny legs are not conditioned to deal with them at all. He'd fold from leg kicks alone never mind grappling.
And why are you on about arm reach like it would mean **** in the Octagon ? The last I checked legs were longer than arms and the top stand up MMA guys use them like jabs to weaken opponents legs before getting serious. I'm not even an MMA fan, It's just reality. Floyd would get seriously dealt with in the Octagon vs Mcgregor. It would be all over in 30 seconds. A younger Floyd would have definitely dealt with Mcgregor earlier in a boxing ring though. Inside 4 rounds easily.
I've been watching mma for a very long time, legs kick would be very dangerous but I doubt a prime mayweather, who in this scenerio is prime, longer, heavier and bigger boned allows himself to be ended that quickly on leg kicks (albeit a well placed one on an newby is fight ending) if old fat mercer could take a few, or old fat ali, and this aint old fat toney. I would strongly favour floyd to come in actually taking it seriously and move like he did vs pacquiao to avoid kicks and takedowns, and floyd can punch off that movement, he'll posses the power to easily end an old retired conor easily ith a single punch as he's trying to keep up with the foot speed. Floyd in this scenerio would have training to check kicks bit it obviously wont be enough, but one can fairly effectively step out of range and then pounce back in with an offensive, legs arent as long as you're imagining, people do this all the time.
If it was a prime floyd vs a 40 year old, smaller etc george st. pierre then I would worry.
In boxing an mma guy will have a hard time outdoing a boxer in anything, but in mma the boxer will have the advantage with the hands.
MMA has evolved big time from those days. Mcgregor is a totally different fighter to what Mercer faced. Mcgregor is a phenomenal stand up fighter with average wrestling. He'd brutalise Mayweathers legs from the off and there would be fvck all Mayweather could do about it. Mcgregor would not engage with Mayweather at Mayweathers range. He'd kick the absolute life out of him before taking him down. He might even end it via kicks alone.
And the best stand up MMA guys are very mobile due to having to adopt a lighter stance.. They have to be way more mobile than boxers due to having to evade take downs and kicks. Mcgregor is very springy on his feet when fighting MMA. If he can evade take downs and kicks in MMA then he can evade Floyd's punches while delivering kicks of his own outside Floyds range which Floyd won't know how to deal with. It's a very easy win for Mcgregor in the Octagon. ****, Mcgregor had some success evading Floyd's shots at punching range ffs. At kicking range Floyd is absolutely fuvked. He'd get wasted.
Lets be real.
Floyd was eating burger king and partying in his strip club every day for the week leading up to the fight. He's 40 years old and coming off a two year layoff. He did not take McGregor seriously at all, he even admitted that he did no actual sparring the month leading up to the fight. And despite all that he still made McGregor look foolish. I know certain people are desperate for ANYTHING to criticize Floyd over, but come on. Conor gassed in three rounds and only "won" two round because Floyd was throwing no punches early. Mayweather was old, out of shape, didn't take this fight seriously at all and he still beat McGregor's ass. He didn't "underestimate" McGregor, he just knew he could put in minimal effort and still beat him easily
So Floyd done a Duran lol. Floyd fan's usually give Duran fans abuse for excuses like this. When it fits though. There's solid evidence and sources to back up Durans partying and lack of training though. Where is your evidence Floyd was partying and not giving a fvck for this fight other than what comes out Floyds mouth ?
Did you watch the pre-fight vlogs? They show Floyd roller skating and eating burger king. And what the hell do I need to make excuses for? Floyd won and beat Mcgregor easy, unlike Duran who lost to SRL because he was lazy
I never watched the pre fight stuff but I'll take your word for it. No way Floyd let's himself go though. It's all just psychology play from the May camp. I certainly don't buy it.
Yes, Floyd won easily but other similar weight greats at 40 yo would have destroyed Mcgregor. Duran would have absolutely.
Yup, Duran lost to SRL due to indiscipline and a change of tact from team Leonard. Duran still has a huge win over Leonard though which is considered one of the greatest wins in boxing history. Ray Leonard was fvcking amazing though and better than Mayweather let's be honest. Duran a natural lightweight on the edge of his prime beat Ray Leonard in his prime at his natural weight which is truly epic stuff.
Just want to address the mma guys move more or are faster of foot and mcgregor esspecially being very springy. For the first 5 minutes maybe, otherwise absolutely not, and never faster than mayweather, you should watch more of mcgregor. He seemed better when he was skeletor fighting midgets though. But since the move up, no, nope. And in this scenerio even more so being 40, coming out of retirement etc.
Anyway, enough of this conversation, we've said our piece.
But you watched a more flat footed version of Mcgregor that had changed his style to a boxing one for the Mayweather fight. He usually bounces about on the outside delivering kicks and fainting etc. Was a totally different Mcgregor vs Floyd. It had to be though.
This thread is where the discussion should be.
Floyd had a great game plan and Knew exactly what he was doing the whole fight but it also made the best of MMA fist fighters look like they could hold their own against the best boxers in a boxing ring which is criminal from Floyd. Floyd is a joke.
A 40 year old Roberto Duran would have laid waste to Mcgregor in round 1 giving those MMA fans a reality check and putting an end to the myth that the best MMA stand up fighters could hold their own against A level boxers.
That's because you are thinking of a fresh out of retirement, 40 year old floyd vs a bigger, younger, primer p4p mma guy.
But Floyd seriously wouldnt last a round against Mcgregor fighting in MMA.
That was a TKO that should have happened in the 4th or sooner. How in the hell does someone with no fights win 3 and go 10 with the greatest boxer of our generation?
Just imagine what a 40 year old Duran would have done to Mcgregor.
Nothing. He'd get KOed by McGregor.
Troll much.
Duran arguably beat Hector Camacho when he was 45 ffs. That first fight was a robbery. Duran would slay Mcgregor with ease. Let's not forget how much Duran would want to dish out a beating on Mcgregor due to his mouth. 40 year old Duran would savage Mcgregor and It's not even debatable. K0 1.
This is exactly how I see it. While he was fighting for money, something happened along the way, he won multiple titles, multiple divisions, and became an all time great fighter.
It's not that hard to win multiple world titles in the era of multiple world titles though is it ? This era has produced C level fighters who are multiple weight world champions ffs. I'm talking boxers that would only be chosen as mere warm up fighers in past eras. See the so called bums that are on the truly great fighters records ? There is no doubt a lot of those greater era bums could win world titles nowadays. If the likes of Broner competed in the fab four era he wouldn't get anywhere near a world title and would likely be just another bum on someone's record. In the era's of one belt Broner would be lucky to get past sparring partner level. Just imagine what someone like a Kid Gavilan would do to a Broner, Berto, or even a Maidana or Danny Garcia. Those guys would all get ***** slapped up and down the ring by Gavilan.
Floyd is undeniably a great fighter though. Probably top 35 of all time, as well as being one of the top 5 defensive genuises of all time and a second tier H2H force.
I don't get the fuss behind Taylor, Davies would have beat him if he didn't have such a glass chin and no heart at all ffs
You serious ? lol Davies was totally out skilled in every single department and had zero chance at all of winning that fight.
10 fights so more reason not to rush him, I definitely see that potential in him but it would be crazy to put a lot of pressure on him now. Do I think he beats those guys after 10 pro fights nope. Do I think he does after another 4/5 fights? Definitely, we got to be careful when placing prospects in hypothetical fights, someone said to me on here last week that they would pick Anthony Yarde to beat Andre Ward now!!! We get too ahead of ourselves sometimes when there is absolutely no need for it.
Good post.
That's the thing I CAN see the potential in Taylor, not sure why people are eager to put him in those bracket yet. He only had like 11/12 fights. No need to rush him or compare him to Ricky burns opponents etc it's madness around here sometimes. You give the guy credit you get criticise, you don't give the guy credit you get criticise, you give him credit but encourage people to give him time you still get criticise..... That's boxing fans for you.
He's only had 10 fights not 11/12.