How do you see Loma-Duran at 135 going?

This should have been laughed off.

Thanks. I read this years ago but will do so again. Ortiz is one of my favorite fighters and one of the most interesting to read about especially if it's based around an interview. I first heard about him watching "Champions Forever: The Latin Legends" when I was about 11 or 12 years old and his name was probably the lesser known on the documentary (Chavez, Sanchez, Gavilan, Arguello and Duran were the others) but I loved his story and interviews and it caught my attention when LeRoy Neiman said "Ortiz in his day was what Chavez is today" so I did my research and tracked down a bunch of his fights and wasn't disappointed. Years later I remember speaking to Michael Katz and asked on his opinion of who the greatest Latino fighter was (or something along those lines) and he thought it was crazy to suggest Duran was Ortiz' superior especially if you were able to see both of them. I took some trips to NYC in the last 12 months I really wish I could have interviewed him to pick his brain for my own collection and a friends website but I asked the guys who do the "Best I've Faced" series on The Ring and he said he interviewed him at the IBHOF. Wish I could pin down a location and schedule an interview with the great man. Great post man, thanks

Duran would **** him up.

Duran would have made it really dirty. 12 rounder or 15 rounder ? Duran wins a late TKO after 12th round.

Let's wait for Lomachenko to stabilize as a lightweight and hopefully see him fight a in-fighter to have educated guesses on this

Nobody beats Duran at 135. Agreed. Loma gets bodied.

I think Loma gets mingled real bad. Duran's savage style would completely catch Loma off guard. Way too much power and durability. There's nothing Loma could do to hurt or evade him. Duran would just trample him.

Lomachenko is a better more technical fighter than leonard. This is the single most ignorant post I've seen on NSB and that's saying a helluva lot.

We haven't seen Loma fight anyone near good enough to suggest he beats Duran yet. Not seriously. Just looking at styles, Duran can definitely push Loma around and rip him up inside, and I haven't seen Loma prove he could stop Duran from doing so. Defensively he would frustrate the hell out of Loma, too.

Loma would have to outbox and pray he’s been knocked down by Russell and Linaries who weren’t the power punchers of Duran. I was just fighting Duran at 135 and he would get inside and turn dudes into pizza faces. Also did y’all forget that the Salido fight happened. Duran is Salido by 5 at least.

A lot of people on crack on this site, no way does Duran lose to loma, we are talking about a fighter who lost to a fat out of shape salido, Duran is all wrong for loma, loma get eaten alive and *****ted out

Hands of Stone by complete and utter decimation. I actually can’t beleive people are even giving this any thought, if linares could deck Loma imagine what a prime Duran does.

Lomachenko is a better more technical fighter than leonard. Loma and Leonard are cut from the same cloth imo, both extremely good fighters.

Duran was the only guy to KO Ernesto Marcel, the first to KO Lampkin and Hector Thompson... you can twist it multiple ways, but I think you're being a little unfair to be focussing on undefeated records. Duran has got some hot names on his record at 135: Buchanan, Kobayashi, sh*t, he knocked out Jimmy Robertson's teeth... There is a modern obsession with retaining a fighter's '0', and it doesn't translate well looking back in time. It's whiggish, man, you're judging the past in light of the present. I mean, the same goes both ways too, judging the present in light of the past - it's just different eras, which is why I try not to get too caught up in fantasy match-ups I agree with you that it's too early to tell with Loma, he's not at ATG-status yet. But focussing on records is not the way to go Totally agree that the 0 on the resume is wayyy over-hyped. In fact, it really robs boxing of what boxing should be about, the best fighting the best, not protecting their 0. I was just more pointing out that the 71-1 record is pretty, but you have to look deeper into the record to see if it means anything. Loma beat a guy who was 51-1 and was not close to the class of Linares imo.

I'm just saying that why bring up the fact that Duran got knocked out by 6'1 Hearn at 154 in a discussion of Duran vs Lomachenko at 135? If we were talking about Duran vs Charlo, then ok. And who do you have between Terrance Crawford vs Sugar Ray Robinson? I was meaning it more that people would call him a bum if they are not perfect, nothing to do with 135. Which I don't like. Also, this is a tough question, as Loma in his first 135 fight, beat the badass of the division. That's impressive no matter how you slice it. Whereas, Duran had around 7 fights at 135 before fighting for a 135 belt. But then again, Loma is 30 and doesn't have time to mess around with 7 tune up fights. The best answer for me would be that on any given night, either could win, but Loma needs a lot more on his resume to be in Duran's class or really compare imo. Sugar Ray would win imo haha.

Duran too big too strong.

I'm gonna go with my first thought upon reading the title. Duran by stoppage late after some really good action.

Yes. I could probably find clips of Barrera getting flattened by Jones, Morales getting a gift against Espadas and being schooled by Raheem, Marquez getting dropped by Pickney and Pacquaio being KO'd and buzzed a few times too. Folks tend to hold a current guy and a mistake or two against him and then act like fighters in the past never once made a mistake in their entire careers. Those four comprised of my favorite series of bouts during my lifetime and I've re-watched their fights (and attended) more than any. I think Barrera would struggle with the angles and movement as would Marquez and Morales. Pacquaio would be most dangerous but he doesn't have Loma's ring IQ. Marquez may have the best chance because of length, intelligence, his right hand and uppercuts but he'd struggle getting set against Loma. He's had hard nights with far lesser fighters. Junior Jones was tall for a JF. he was Barrera's kryptonite and Naseem wanted no parts of him even as he was a weight class lower. Jones lost a lot of big fights in his career but some guys avoided him even when he wasn't on top. That right hand had dynamite in it and was accurate. He was chinny though.

I like Lomachenko and think he's #1 p4p right now unless Crawford dominates Jeff Horn in his 3rd weight class. But he'd get his **** pushed in by Erik Morales also.

Yes. I could probably find clips of Barrera getting flattened by Jones, Morales getting a gift against Espadas and being schooled by Raheem, Marquez getting dropped by Pickney and Pacquaio being KO'd and buzzed a few times too. Folks tend to hold a current guy and a mistake or two against him and then act like fighters in the past never once made a mistake in their entire careers. Those four comprised of my favorite series of bouts during my lifetime and I've re-watched their fights (and attended) more than any. I think Barrera would struggle with the angles and movement as would Marquez and Morales. Pacquaio would be most dangerous but he doesn't have Loma's ring IQ. Marquez may have the best chance because of length, intelligence, his right hand and uppercuts but he'd struggle getting set against Loma. He's had hard nights with far lesser fighters. I know how that works, but Lomachenko can't pull off the same gameplan as those guys did. Marquez would pull off the same combinations that Linares landed but more power. Lomachenko got knocked down after feinting a double jab coming forward. Marquez knocked out Pacquiao doing that exact same maneuver. Speaking of Pacquiao, he hits too hard and too fast for Lomachenko. Lomachenko would befuddle Pacquiao a times in the fight, but he's not durable enough to go 12 with Manny in his prime. Talking about resumes more than actually fighting each other. But if you mean, all things being equal P4P type of fight, then ok. At this point in his career, hard to argue P4P against Loma as he is setting records and doing it by making fighters quit, but that's my opinion. I'm just saying that why bring up the fact that Duran got knocked out by 6'1 Hearn at 154 in a discussion of Duran vs Lomachenko at 135? If we were talking about Duran vs Charlo, then ok. And who do you have between Terrance Crawford vs Sugar Ray Robinson?