2nd? Who's the best? Pancho Villa? Flash Elorde?
Wow... for real dude?! Have you ever heard the name of some Manny guy? What was his last name? Oh yeah, Pacquiao! Have you heard about him? Come on bro, you can't be serious...
Plant is slick. The problem is, Canelo is slicker. Slicker than him and all the active brothers out there. There is no one right now who has better defense than Canelo, and that are facts.
The guy you are addressing has been banned for racism for at least a few times before, and he's pushing his luck these days.
First, I thought he just didn't like Floyd with the unending "Gayweather" comments, which are actually against the NSB rules. They contribute nothing to the quality of the site. I can understand not liking a fighter with passion, but you can't abuse them, either. That reduces the quality of the site, and the boxers and their teams that read NSB (many do) will look elsewhere. This site is all about the boxers and boxing, first and foremost. Attacking boxers incessantly gets you banned.
Then I realized, reading this guy's posts for a while now, that he actually hates anything African American/Black (racism). Permabans are for guys like these. Not recommending anything right now. Making the occasional angry comments or using negative names/labels for boxers is perfectly fine. Bashing them repeatedly or the NSB members who support those boxers should not be tolerated.
Shape up, Rey.
So him calling 'Gayweather' is bad and abusive, but a bunch of haters here calling 'Clenelo' all the time not? OK...
Bla, bla, bla, bla... Roy Jones, a guy with 9 defeats, who lost TWICE to a bum like Antonio Tarver, and managed to only get the IBF title in Supermiddleweight, would have KOed a prime Canelo Alvarez?! Hahahaha ok ok.
Its amazing how this forum is so full of Canelo haters, almost everybody hear writes with their guy and not with their brain. Just remember one thing, if Canelo wins, he'll always be remembered as the first UNDISPUTED Supermiddleweight Champion in history.
The best Roy Jones Jr was in Light Heavyweight, where he got 3 of the 4 major belts. That's prime Roy Jones, but some casuals in here don't seem to know that.
Still, everybody has the right to think whatever they want. In the end, when boxers retire, they're out in the place they deserve in history, so its nonsense disscusing here about things people will never agree.
Bivol only has 19 fights
Lomachenko has only 17 fights, and is 4 years older than Bivol. Isn't he a great boxer? You know this guys have nos a lot of pro fights because they have HUGE amateur carrers right?
The darn fight at 160 was undisputed, they had all 4 belts and were on the same platform but Canelo decides to dump belts (the belts don't strip cash cows so get off of that). How the hell are you going to tell a guy at 154 also you fight for pride, not belts but turn around and fight for the belt when a stiff from the united kingdom gets it? And you have man fans making excuses for canelo like he is their woman. This is why boxing is a joke. I wouldn't call Charlo and Benavidez duck b.c they are a joke just like plant.
Ducks
Bivol was supposed to fight Beterbiev since 2019'
Spence is a complete disgrace when it comes to consolidating with 147 with Crawford. PBC has held the division up since 2016.
Andrade can't fight Beterbiev bc he can't drain him and put rehydration clauses on him.
Imagine if Crawford went up to 160, put 2 hydrations on GGG and stopped him like Canelo did Kovalev. I'd love to see the Central Asian fanboy response.
Thought this was a boxing site.
Blah blah blah you and Oracle01 m Canelo never had the opportunity to go undisputed vs Andrade. Canelo first was promoted by PBC to franchise champion, losing his belt and Charlo getting it. Then he was stripped by IBF cause he didn't fought Derevianchenko and that's the belt Andrade got.
If there is no catchweight and Bivol is able to fight fairly at 175 lbs, Canelo's getting KO'ed.
There is no catchweight, no weight clause, and Bivol has more than enough time to prepare for the fight. Yet, Canelo will defeat him.
I watched him get pummeled by Bellew, live on TV. Great fight. Bellew annihilated the guy. And BTW... after that fight, IMO his punch resistance diminished a little bit. This will definitely be an interesting fight, no matter how it ends up. I think Canelo will be too fast for Makabu, although Canelo may have his hands full if he tries to KO the guy.
Don't know what fight you saw bro. In the real fight, Makabu knocked down Bellew in the first round, and a few rounds later Bellew landed a lose bullet on a flurry that knocked out Makabu. Yet, that was 10 fights ago and since then Makabu has 9 fight, 9 wins, 7 KOs.
This has absolutely nothing in common to indongo, because Canelo is doing what nobody his size that started out at jmw has ever done
The thing is, Canelo didn't started at JMW bro. He started his pro career at 140lbs!!
You must've forgot that many fans had Lara beating Canelo, and GGG beating Canelo not once but twice.
The second beating being so painful for Canelo that he weaseled out of a third fight, when it was one of the most anticipated fights at the time.
That said enough about Canelo, like I said in my prior post I Haven't paid to see a Canelo fight since his 2nd fight with GGG.
Skipping out on the trilogy killed it for me, 4 years later that fight won't be as big of a fight as it would've been back then.:boxing:
Nobody thinks Lara defeated Canelo, only haters think it was a shady decision. It's easy, Lara mostly scored jabs (70% of his landed punches), Canelo landed the double of Lara's jabs with power punches. Watch the fight without the commentaries.
Then to say that Canelo weaseled out of a third fight, when it's documented in video on YouTube GGG saying in an interview why he rejected the 3rd fight with Canelo on 2018. There's no way your lies are believed with that kind of evidence. The 3rd fight was offered to GGG when Canelo was still with DLH, and he rejected the fight, told by the man himself and his team.
Canelo just got a slap the on wrist, that was it, he made it ok for other fighters to take steroids' so long as said fighter had a bs excuse - tainted beef, nasal spray, herbal tea, wrong prescription, boner pills (Anderson Silva).
Dude, first clemburerol IS NOT a steroid, not even similar, don't ridiculize yourself. And then, remember Canelo WAS banned till he proved his innocence with the hair follicle tests that trace clembuterol more than 6 months back, and getting onto the VADA 24/7 antidoping program, to prove he's clean. Stop hating without reason.
The ducking cherry picker clenelo didn't want that $50 million dollar Charlo smoke:boxing:
Instead he got $160 million dollar for his 3 fight deal. We knew you're a hater, didn't knew you don't understand math basics...
if you don’t understand why a boxer would use a diuretic and how it’s beneficial, then you clearly don’t understand anything about boxing nor do you understand that making weight is the most challenging thing in training camp for most boxers. Your other example isn’t even an accurate comparison and is ridiculous. As far as gift decisions being based on race and nationality, yeah it happens but you obviously haven’t followed the careers of canelo and Chavez and countless other Mexican boxers who get help from judges because they’re Mexican.
Dude, it's clear you hate mexicans, in all your posts you always attack them. To say mexicans are always helped by referees, after looking Mayweather in tenths of fights, for example, Pacquiao vs Marquez, Jermell Charlo recently, just exposes you as a racist and a hater. The A side is always 'helped' in boxing, its not only mexicans....
I agree with this. Oscar would have definitely beat Canelo. Obviously, right now Canelo beats him because Oscar is older. This guy talking about Oscar this and Oscar that, clearly just hates ODH. But from an unbiased point of view Oscar in his prime beats Canelo. Today's boxing is full of BS with champions picking who to fight and basically running the show to their advantage. Back in the day we saw the best fight the best. Not this BS that is happening now.
You've got no idea what you're talking about. DLH fought an old washed Chavez, old washed Camacho, old washed Whitaker and old washed Hopkins, who he lost to btw. Then he fought Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather and Pacquiao. And guess what? He lost to all 4 of them!! Canelo on the other hand at 23yo had already fought Mayweather, prime Lara, prime undefeated Trout and old Mosley. Add to that list Cotto, GGG twice, prime Danny Jacobs, Kovalev, prime undefeated Callum Smith, prime undefeated BJS, he's going right now for prime undefeated Plant for undisputed, and next year Reynoso has already said hes going for Beterbiev and Bivol according to Reynoso.
so how is that not fighting EVERYONE?! Prime Canelo would retire prematurely a prime DLH. Not even near the same level.
Lmao! Is there any other place with these so called good mexicans? Besides Canelo, name one? Just one, lol.
You complain about Black fighters cherry picking Mexican bums but there are ONLY mexican bums.
Yawl don't have great fighters beside Canelo, and he knows his place that's why he running with both feet and his tail tucked in from the elite black guys.
Lol, you made a mistake starting this race war when you don't even have a leg to stand on.
Black fighters stay chasing Mexican fighters and Mexicans stay ducking.
The rest are all bums.
For real?! You're a casual dude! Estrada? Valdez? Navarrete? Ramirez? Garcia? Berchelt? Soto? Munguia? Santa Cruz?
Dude, you've got no clue. There are more Mexican Champions than Black US champions. But even more, all Black US guys are the most ducking boxers in the world!! Besides Jermell Charlo who are the other guys fighting?! Who's Jermall fought in ALL his career? Andrade in ALL his career? Spence? Bud Ducking Master Crawford? Davis? Haney? Dude for real, between all the guys mentioned you can't get 1 top opponent they've fought in the last 5 years (unless you take a 3 division smaller Mickey Garcia as a top opponent for a guy like Dpence who should be fighting in Middleweight at least).
Wow! You are dumb. Do you have a high school diploma? (That's a rhetorical question, no need to answer :lol1:)
So you basically said Canelo is a pu$$y. I completely agree. When plant beats Canelo, maybe he can make you a taco too at his food cart in Tijuana. Because that's where Plant is going to punch him, straight into an embarrassing retirement. :lol1:
When Plant beats Canelo?? Hahahahahahahahaha wow... Bro, it is the opportunity of your life! Go bet all your money on Plant, you will win 11 to 1 odds!! You will instantly have 11 times the money you currently have, take the opportunity!! ♂️
Tough call, I like Bivol, god fighter who probably beats Canelo. But now he has to either shutCanelo out or knock him out to win bc he’s now the Russian fall guy. No it isn’t fair but it should make a good fight, feel bad for Canelo. He better be ready for this tooling that he’s about to get. Call it off, you still has time.
Wanna bet?!
So as a shot smaller fighter, you bet on yourself against a much bigger prime fighter? Well you deserve to lose the money then. As the saying goes, "A fool and their money..."
So a 154lbs 21yo Canelo is a PRIME Canelo for you?? Hahahahaha ok...
Floyd did bigger numbers fighting Logan Paul
This numbers are in USA alone. Where's Floyd from? And Canelo?! Go compare Floyd's numbers in Mexico vs Canelo's. It's pretty obvious you can't compare each other in their respective countries...
“No. Because he doesn’t feel that’s what greats do.”
Wonder why the change of heart considering the fact that he’s the guy who has asked for more catchweight fights and rehydration clauses than probably anyone ever in boxing. This includes all of his fights at 155, his absurd catchweight of 162.5 against Chavez jr and his rehydration clauses for his fights with Jacobs, Fielding and Kovalev.
Dude you're just ignorant.
Most rehydration clauses than anybody ever, yet you cant name any othe besides Kovalev and Jacobs, that BTW he didn't care about the clause and rehydrated all he wanted.
You talk about the catchweight vs Chavez at 164lbs (not 162.5 btw), as if it was an advantage for Canelo. Chavez was at suppermiddleweight (168lbs) and Canelo had never fought any further than 155lbs. Who had the advantage there? The guy that went up 9 pounds, or the guy that went down only 4?! The problem is, you're talking about something you've got no clue about, and you thinking the catchweight was at 162.5 exposes that ignorance. You're not worth the time.