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Good and still willing to learn You guys are funny. And stupid. This guy is undefeated, with a KO % of 99%, fights top ten opponents, stays humble and doesnt talk ****, what more do you want from a boxer? Should he fight bums and say hes the greatest like Wilder? Or should he get all the belts and then piss them away like Fury? The hatred for this guy is laughable. You guys are backwards by loving Fury and Wilder, and hating AJ. But I get it I guess, hes on top so you guys have to dislike everything he does. If Wilder or Fury was fighting Povetkin, you guys would praise the fight and say nothing but good things about it. But since its AJ fighting him, its somehow a crap fight. Pathetic Joshua is good and he is still willing to learn a more defensive style like Wladimir K, who basically beat Povetkin by leaning on him and throwing him to the floor. Joshua has the defensive part, but is not doing the leaning and fowling to wear an opponent down, or pull the opponents defensive guard away with his long left to then hit him with the right a Vlad tactic. I suppose he is also trying to do what Lennox did and beat people with a stiff jab then big rights when ready and weakened. Though Lennox would also take people out early if the opportunity arose where as Wlad was always more careful. Learning the above can lead to a win but in a very safe way, also he will be able to ride out a storm with someone like Wilder if he gets hurt, and or frustrate them so they take risks and he gets in their first. luckily Wilder has taken ages to learn to box and is still cautious and not that good a boxer, luckily Fury a good boxer, hits you with pillows. Hughie Fury a good boxer has finally realized he needs to learn to hit hard. Joshua realized defense must also be learned, but he now needs to get the balance right and throw hard punches and attack at the right time.

Undisputed Never heard of that guy, who is he Mr Pennis... from your previous comments and this i can only assume you know nothing about boxing. I thought you might be trying to be funny but that requires intelligence as well. USKY is the undisputed Cruiserweight World Champion, a top top signing. Also if you are a boxing fan then competition to stage fights and promote them can only be a good thing for boxers pay ...and the fact we should see more fights.. whats the issue.

Undisputed Never heard of that guy, who is he Mr Pennis... from your previous comments and this i can only assume you know nothing about boxing. I thought you might be trying to be funny but that requires intelligence as well. USKY is the undisputed Cruiserweight World Champion, a top top signing. Also if you are a boxing fan then competition to stage fights and promote them can only be a good thing for boxers pay ...and the fact we should see more fights.. whats the issue.

Some sense at last exactly right bro Fury and Wilder gotta do it again, and hell Whyte has done all he can to get that Joshua rematch and clearly he wants it. as above it makes sense... Hearn laid his cards on the table and lined up Whyte, but the fight and offer was there for Wilder. It seems the offer was a two fight deal and %, but we do not know that for sure. The point being the fight is there for Wilder. If Wilder fights Fury he gets a good payday, not the biggest but good. He also runs the risk of losing and then will miss the bigger AJ fight. After that if no Wilder or Fury then Pulev, Miller in USA and then Ortiz if he gets a win against a top heavy. Hearn will line the fights up and make the offers to Wilder and Fury to step in, if not back to the planned list. At this time the next biggest fight for AJ is Whtye, and the UK fans are Ok with that as they feel he has earned another shot. They rate Ortiz and Miller, but do not feel they have earned their shot. Miller has not really fought anyone as yet and Ortiz lost to Wilder and has gone back to two easy fights. As for Wilder and Fury, "O look we are the best heavy weights now because we had a close fight" which either of them could have lost. It was a good fight to watch but so was the Chisora v Whtye 1st fight good and very close, a good fight. What we have seen is Wilder step up and nearly get knocked out by Ortiz and a draw with Fury. Remember AJ got knocked down by VK and stunned by Whyte, so not so easy when you step up. Though the US Wilder fans will have us believe Ortiz and Fury are on another level, they must be surely.

Battle of the jabs, if Fury can jab him and not get hit by Pulev's jab then he might win, but he has to throw more offensive shots. Pulev beat big heavy's Ustinov and Demitrenko by jabbing then to defeat and kept Chisora off him with his jab. Thus Fury is big enough and mobile enough to do that but he will need more than a jab as he is fighting away from Home.....the Fury's will train accordingly and i believe they have been working on more power shots from Fury..

"Never forget this in boxing looking impressive against someone good is best;" Dillion Whyte has fought people who on paper could have beaten him, Helenius was once a really good prospect and he is a big heavy, Lucas Browne was another big heavy and undefeated, then Whyte had really hard fights against Chisora and Parker. So in the UK he now brings in good money and can head the bill on his own events. Chisora 2 makes sense especially after Chisora beat Takam, it will bring the most money in. Ortiz is in that place where he cannot get a decent fight, he does not bring the money in and the risk of a loss is to great. Whyte can get good opponents as the money is there, fighting Oriz would still be a big fight in the UK, but I think he feels he can beat Chisora and at the same time earn more money. Ortiz will come to the UK especially if Wilder/Fury and AJ and all tied up for a year fighting each other. It could be a fight against Whyte or Joe Joyce ...........then again Joyce could fight Whyte a a massive UK fight and again Ortiz will lose out on a big money fight.

This pound shop RJJ version of Eubank is boring and he looks like a prat. You summed it up in one sentence. OK he has learned RJJ style but lost all the best qualities he had before re punch rate, hard work and hard punches in bunches. He needs a mix of both styles or he could lose fights to guys with tough chins on points for not doing enough each round.

Why are you blaming the WBC, Wilder, Fury and their promoters signed a contract which seemed to take a long time to agree. Surely it should be in the contract. sign up for VADA and start testing from this date. I assume Wilder has now started in fight training testing, or is he not being tested as well. This is not an error or oversight and not of Fury's making either so why all the blame on him. 1. Wilder's top promoters have failed again, from previous fights, Povetkin, Ortiz they should have insisted it was in the contract. AJ v Povetkin had it their contract 2. Both fighters are not presently being tested pre fight so who does this benefit, maybe they knew Fury needs to clear his system, or maybe Wilder. It could be Fury is playing for time and wants the fight moved to a later date. However If they wanted Fury to sign up it would have been in the contract, otherwise there is no date for him to sign up only the fact he needs to sign up before the fight.

Yes Joshua will not fight Wilder if he wins... I guess the offer is still on the table: Fight Whyte in the UK and if you win you will be the front runner to fight Joshua if he beats Ruiz. Of course you will be fighting on the DANZ network. If Joshua wins they will say that they have bigger fish to fry in the form of Usyk. From previous threads we already know Hearn is moving to get the titles split up. If Ruiz wins they do not want him fighting Wilder with all the belts so one or two will go, If Joshua wins i think he wants some easy fights and will give up the WBO for Usyk to fight another Hearn Heavy. AJ will fight Pulev as that is a fight he should win easily as Pulev is too slow and not a fast heavy hitter. AJ can then come back to the WBO fight later and the fights will be big enough in the UK and Europe to make good money. I also think AJ is fed up with all the politics and see's Wilder and Fury having easy fights. He can sit back and take it easy leading up to a unification with Usyk (if he gets and wins WBO) and not worry about Wilder or Fury until they come to the table to accept an offer on his terms as I do not see AJ going back to the USA to fight them.

Your making the shytte up BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!! I love you guys! I swear I do. I would be asleep at my desk today if not for you guys! Okay I find it funny that Wilder has fought 3 Heavyweight who have a total record of 2 Losses between them. Ortiz, Fury and Breazeale. Now of those 3 AJ fought one (BREAZEALE) and when he defeated him in 7 rounds by KO it was an AMAZING work of art but when Wilder beats him into RETIREMENT with one of the ugliest 1st round KOs in history he is now a BUM!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAH Now AJ has fought neither Fury nor Ortiz (who has only lost ONCE a KO to Wilder) but Wilder ducks all the competition. OKAY! Now because Ortiz has been KOed by Wilder he is an OVERRATED OLD BUM who cant fight but before he lost he was the HW Boogie Man!!! Now Fury is the best HW in the world because you cant call AJ that anymore because last time we saw him in the ring he had on PAJAMAS and was drinking Nyquil so now its Fury!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS SHYT UP!!!! Please include who AJ has fought in his previous fights and their records when making comparisons. Also note how AJ suffered the same comments re Povetkin being two old and past it, Klitschko the same too old and already beaten by Fury. Martin was young big and unbeaten as was Breazeale, but after AJ everyone commented how bad they were, true neither can box that well but AJ was the one who stepped forward and proved it. Wilder has had two top fights against top guys he was in trouble with Ortiz and was outboxed by Fury getting a draw with his knockouts: So you can understand why it is always a risk to fight top heavyweights. Look who Fury just fought and is fighting next, no risks there. Wilder will be judged on who he fought from the top heavy weights of his time. The first part of his career was his 32 fight learning curve before he fought Stiverne and as above only in his last two fights has he finally stepped up. Look what AJ achieved in his few fights and who he fought, that is what fans respect. Wilder has gained more respect fighting Ortiz and Fury than his other 40 fights. If only his team believed in him like you do then Wilder would have been the one to knock out Martin (a US HW World Champion) and knocked out Breazeale a big US unbeaten HW. Maybe even had the guts to fight WK. Wilder had more fights and has been in the game longer yet has achieved so little or a man so big, with a big punch. Only now is he starting to gain respect......come on Wilder

What has gone so wrong with Wilder so many more fights than AJ, so many knock outs, a willingness to fight champions, Kings fight Kings. Why did he not fight Charles Martin to win that belt, why did he not fight Klitschko, why did he not fight Parker. Joshua's promoter Hearn is an idiot, useless how did he manage to get those fights for AJ, how did he pay for them when Wilders promoters have so much money, hey $50 million. Will Wilder only risk it for the money, Fury a big fight and after Fury what top heavy weight will he fight if not AJ. Maybe we should let the US fans tell us who Wilder should fight after Fury, but calling AJ a coward for not fighting Wilder then why has AJ had to fight the other Kings. Kings fight kings is that not right ..

Its about the ducking rubbish You are full of ****t dude. None of those you mentioned ever made an offer to Wilder. Prove otherwise and I will apologize. Hearn/Joshua turned down a guaranteed $80 million over two fights, even if Joshua lost the first. That doesn't include PPV shares either. The BS rumor about network problems could have been worked out with that much on the table. They didn't want the fight then and I am not convinced they do yet. Joshua will probably fight Whyte since he is keeping him away from Ortiz. Then probably Miller in the fall. Your reading skills are ***t buddy this is about saying boxers are ducking. Think about how many fights AJ has had and what he has achieved. When new WBC champion Wilder was (33-0, 32KOs) His co manger saids "He is still very much a work in progress, says his co-manager Shelly Finkel. he goes onto say there is no need to rush Wilder into big fights against the best of the division; that despite a world title he still needs time to grow and groom his skills. Your calling AJ and Whyte duckers but they have their own agendas and fights to make. I ask you to consider where Wilder is and why he did not go for those fights, but it is OK he never chased them to unify as he was not ready he was not ducking, he was not scared just not ready. So Wilders not ready and AJ is ducking...... and Hearn went to USA to talk about the guaranteed 80 million etc offer but they would not meet him, he had to agree to the deal firsts with no details and nothing in writing. There was Nothing stopping Wilders team continuing with that offer to make it work and explain/meet negotiate with Hearn and AJ but no they had to agree to it without seeing it...at the end of the day it is just politic's about money and looking after your fighters, it is not about ducking and cowards. For example what does Ortiz bring, no money thats for sure and a mere chance of being next to fight Wilder in about a years time aside from a risky fight. Whyte via Hearn offered Wilder 7 million in the end to Wilder about 3 times more than any of his previous fights pay cheque, in fact what he asked for after turning down the first offer. So a risky fight (in Wilders eyes an easy fight) and the rewards money was there...we wont mention ducking again re why this fight did not take place, as it was about money Wilder will not take risks unless the big payoff is there hence Fury and eventually AJ fights.

You lost me when you said Wilder is SLIGHTLY more powerful than AJ. I quit reading after that. I bet now you consider AJ first loss. Fluke and will ignore it while you service AJ like Khan. I thought you quit reading. It does not matter if it is slightly harder or massively harder its still a 50 50 fight. Grow up and learn how to read and have a true debate rather than school yard politics. Yes I am sure your Dad's harder than mine!

Fail fail but Win Win Eddie "British Bob" Hearn is a laughing stock in the U.S. He tries to make everyone think he is the king of boxing but is laughed at by most people that have at least half a brain. Make people think they had to turn down a guaranteed $50 million because of a mandatory? failed. Make them sign before December 1st? failed. Make Joshua look like he isn't a ducker? failed. I could go on and on. Keep up the good work Eddie. Make Joshua a unified World Heavy Weight Champion passed, Wilder (more fights in, better fighter, not a coward) failed. Make Joshua millions of pounds passed. Wilder based in USA where there is more money, still waiting for that big pay day. Failed, in fact the failure Hearn has offered him more money to fight AJ and Whyte. Make Joshua into a super star and number one Heavy Weight in the World. Pass. Wilder still not there, Fail. Hopes by beating Fury to claim that number one spot, but will still have to fight AJ to get the big money and unified. Hearn making big fights and money for his fighters Win Win...if i am risking life and limb and a short career i want to make sure i get paid so I know who i would want promoting me. Even Fury is now wishing he took the Hearn Aj route as his fight with Wilder is not doing the numbers they thought it would in the USA.

The Chin He'll outbox wilder all day long, but with that power that he has, fk, it almost makes sense. I'm not sure that a prime iron chin Mercer could deal with his power. Mercer's chin, in his prime, was the gold standard of Chins. Tex cobbs chin was comparable. It has to be Oliver McCall...has he ever been even knocked down.....

True but they can try to negotiate The only options he has are retire, fight on the agreed terms in the rematch clause or be sued and stripped of his belts. Yes but Ruiz and his team can put forward other options such as fight in USA or Mexico ........but it will no doubt cost them as it will breach the original contract. I have no doubt Wilder v Ruiz will come up and this maybe Wilders only chance now to get all the belts; If this fight is put forward they would have to pay a massive step aside to AJ and probably sign a contract to agree to let him fight the winner....but basically Ruiz has to follow through with the rematch or be sued. Also if he avoids the rematch mandatory's will come into play and he could lose some of the belts by not defending them. This is possibly AJ's last big payday if he loses thats it. Also if he steps aside and rebuilds to work his way back up again his paydays will go down. If he is not ready and needs to learn the WK style to fight big, then maybe there could be a deal on the table to step aside (get paid for not fighting) and then come back ready. We shall see...........

Sadly Wilder will lose money as well Mean while, in the land of a thousand excuses. Tell us again why you turned down $50 million. That story tears my heart strings. AJ won't sell his soul for gold, but all he did was cry A side and demand the lion's share. Then Hearn threatens to fight anybody else, like he made the big offer. AJ better hope That $50 million is still there when he comes looking for his turn. AJ and Wilder better hope they both remain unbeaten before they meet or both will lose a lot of money...

Will they announce it after the fight on the 18th with Wilder stepping into the ring...

Has to be Charr I'd like to see Povetkin or Charr (bogus champ) Best chance of a win and a bogus WBA belt is Charr, Chisora is back up there and well liked in the UK, why the interest because of the money they will get, but what is in it for Chisora. Parker was going to be a hard fight and any of these guys could give him a hard fight and a loss. Chisora also needs to be motivated, he is pissed they added Taylor to the card demoting him....so Charr is beatable and has a belt for motivation. Rivas to much like Takem and a chance of a loss, Povetkin will be a loss. Wallin interesting but only of benefit to Wallin and unknown risk to Chisora. Hunter a good chance of a loss....Bakole too big and good jab probable loss.. they will all be good fights and Chisora could win any of them if he turns up....but it has to be Charr

Half right, he is moving away from the big right hand towards Wilders left, but he is trying to fight as a southpaw so his forward hand for jabbing is his right which tends to be held higher. His left hand will be slightly lower, ****ed ready for more power shots as he will be able to swing with more power as his lead foot is his right. However his left hand will be held lower so Wilder could land with his right: Advice is to mix things up and not be predictable otherwise your opponent could time you and hit you. Fury fighting both stances, lots of movements and feints is what he does best: Watched the Cunningham fight again and his speed caught him out a couple of times: Difference is Wilder is bigger just as fast and hits much harder; Wilder can be a slow starter and can be hurt, but Fury does hit with big soft pillows; So as much as I would like to see Fury win i cannot see it; Fight is to early he is not ready yet...

Maybe there is more to this fight... I thought (like most on here) AJ would fight Pulev first as an easier fight; I also thought Usyk would fight Chisora before fighting AJ re the WBO mandatory but; have AJ give up the WBO with Usyk fighting Chisora for the belt. AJ can then come back to the WBO and or he can fight Wilder or Fury winner but only for the belts he has, as he knows he can go back to Usyk later. prevents all the belts going if he loses, but if he wins he can then go for Uysk and the WBO. Whyte mean while remains Wilder mandatory, not a fight Wilder would want, but again all adds to Hearn's control and leverage as he can wait out the unification in order for Whyte to get a shot first. lets see as it is all not confirmed re the 2 mandatory's if WBO will wait for IBF.

Kicked in head After the knockdown in round three, wilder falls to the canvas shortly afterwards (not called a knockdown) but Fury's foot seems to hit him in the head, on the right side as he steps over him. Wilder at this point is on his back. Prior to that he was on his hands facing downwards and he may well have been hit on the left side as well but the camera angle does not allow any view of this. The knockdown punch hit him high on the left side back of his head, maybe top of ear as well, a good punch after the knockdown hits him on the left side of his head (his ear). At end of the round his ear is already bleeding, given the two heavy punches to left side of head and being kicked in the head while down, it is clear this is what caused the bleeding. For the record in my opinion In the 2nd fight Fury's gloves remained correctly on and his punches were mostly with the correct knuckle part of the glove. No slapping and hitting with the palm. In the first fight his left glove did ride up and he got away with a lot of slapping and flicking with his left hand.

AJ did nothing right even the knockdown... All 4 knockdowns accidental???? No read what has been written he is saying AJ accidently knocked Ruiz down.......in that he did nothing right and the knockdown was a fluke. THE KNOCKDOWN not Ruiz's four knockdowns of AJ....

Whose going to pay AJ to step aside and who is agreeing to give him another title shot down the line and what about mandatory's. AJ's next fight is for three of the World Titles and as a challenger, the terms will be very good as agreed in the two fight deal. Why would he give that up when no one knows the final outcome if he stepped aside, He could end up facing Usyk but later on. From what we saw with his boxing, maybe his best chance is to beat Usyk out of Usyk and Fury so why ruin a good deal and a good chance. Arum is trying to avoid a hard mandatory with Whyte for Fury and Whyte will not freeze like AJ and he will certainly try and throw some leather to win. Fury wants real easy stay busy fights or the biggest money fight, not low reward high risk contenders. So AJ has to take the rematch, win and all is well, lose and he is only six months later, then let Wilder, Fury Usyk and any mandatory duke it out while he rebuilds for a third shot at the titles. The chances are the titles will never get undisputed with a chance they may spread out. Stepping aside makes it easy for his opponents and with no guarantee's for AJ.

Correct, its that simple.. What Eddie Hearn is saying is if Joshua wins he'll have Joshua vacate one of the belts. Hearn wants to keep the titles in house. AJ wants some easier fights, and will probably fight Pulev but not Usyk. Usyk will get to fight another Hearn Heavyweight for the WBO. This will build up Usyk for a future fight with AJ. AJ can still fight Wilder and Fury later on but not with all the belts on the line. If he wins he can then go back to Usyk to unify all the belts. If he loses Hearn still has the BO belt to control and create another big HW fight. AJ was complaining before his loss he wanted an easy fight after seeing Fury fight those unknown Euro Heavies. Hearn is just covering all bases and putting his eggs in more than one basket, but both fighters AJ and Usyk do not lose out but have more options with less pressure on AJ. As stated he can come back for all the belts if he keeps winning. He knows he can fight Usyk anytime for the WBO. Wilder will have to fight two Hearn stable Heavies to get his hands on all the belts, as will Fury after Wilder. If Ruiz wins again we will see Politic's at play and he will either have to fight the two mandatory's or go for the big payday with Wilder. Pressure will be put on him to meet the mandatory's first or lose a belt..

and GGG should not fight Charlo, Canelo's the Champion now let him fight him. GGG should go after Saunders title who ever has it at that point, or get his IBF title back. Its a shame after all he did in the middle weights to get messed about so he should choose his own route. Saunders in the UK will be very big....

Whyte earned 300k for his last fight and is now demanding 10 million? :lol1: :lol1: Why was that, why so low, please use your brain. It was because of Covid and limits on crowds. During this period Fury earned zero as he waited for crowds to return. So if we take financial years during that period Fury's return from actual fights was zero. There are lies dammed lies and statistics. Also the excuses are coming in pretty early from Fury's side, they do not want this fight...

It is very easy to call someone average or shot, or too old after they have lost a fight. Maybe go back and see what the expert journalist's, promoters and other fighters thought about who would win. For example we hear how W Klitschko was over the hill, Charles Martin is rubbish, Parker is not very good, but AJ took them on and captured the titles. Whyte thought Helenuis, Browne and Parker. Though yet Deontay Wilder did not fight any of them. Then you go on about Ortiz and that AJ and Whyte are too scared to fight the bogey man. Can we have your comments on why Wilder is not unified champion, how did he let a fighter with so few fights get ahead of him. Why did he not fight Martin or Parker, surely they would be easy wins for him and for another Belt. Leading Heavy loads of fights and knockouts yet has failed to unify.

Whyte won't do it. The dude already pissed himself when he thought he was going to have to fight Ortiz. Whyte would rather just talk his way into something safer that pays better. Wilder would not do it. The dude already pissed himself when his asking price was met and he was going to have to fight Whyte. Wilder just walked away to a safer lower paying fight. You are right though about the safer fight that pays better. Whyte has options Chisora fight bigger pays better, or just wait for the AJ fight. The Ortiz fight has passed now, no money and even if he did fight there is no guarantee he would get to fight Wilder as they would put Breazeale first. Money talks

Facing Joshua would have been the same. If he had won he'd have a massive rematch too. It was crazy walking away from the kind of money a Joshua fight would have got him. Agree, Oritiz should have gone the AJ route especially as Wilder fans will tell you; AJ will lose to Ortiz and is a ducking coward: Hence made no sense to go Wilder route..........unless Ortiz felt Wilder is the weaker of the two and easiest to beat. Still should have gone for the money.