Not true. If your a real fight fan you would not say that. 100% not true. But shows who's biased and who's really about the sport. I don't hate, I just mark off who's comments I should bypass and not even read due to the fact that they will just be biased opinions and not factual based rebuttals
Um...what? It's pretty well documented that Floyd killed the fight every time. True fight fans, and fans of other sports are aware of it. Mayweather had NO plans of fighting Pacquiao when he was tearing through people. His combination of speed, power, movement, and energy were going to hand Floyd his first loss. No question about it. Mayweather did everything he could to come up with bogus reasons to stall, delay, and ultimately cancel the fight.
If they do fight, it will be when Manny has nothing left. His style requires a level of fitness and athleticism that decays with age. Floyd can play his defensive, single-shot style for much longer and he knows it. He will wait it out and catch Pac when he's slower and sloppier.
@rajul: Great, you are worthless. Thanks for nothing.
@bazooka: I understand the rules, so I'm not sure as to the relevancy of your post. Unless, of course, you are suggesting that Cortez poorly officiated the event - a point in which I would fully agree. They were never in opposite corners before the signal, no warnings or displays to resume fighting were issues, and Mayweather faked a return hug to let down the guard of his opponent.
All of these actions were in violation of the rules you've posted there.
What I liked about Pavlik in his last fight was his variety of punches. He didn't just 1-2 all night long. He threw uppercuts, body shots, even threw while moving some. He needs to keep that up if he wants to be back in with the big boys.
So if a person speaks their mind in support of homosexuality, they are "bold," "progressive," and gets praised in all arenas.
If someone doesn't support it, and has strong-rooted beliefs about it, it's controversial.
Typical of the liberal media these days. They are all for freedom of thought and speech...so long as you agree with them. If you don't, they will bludgeon you to death until you apologize.
This isn't about equality or freedom. It's about Leftists forcing people to believe one way, and one way only.
in an mma fight? she still could beat floyd
not like she would bother trading punches with a guy she could effortlessly throw on the ground who has no grappling experience
mma knockouts happen because the fighters fail at taking someone down
the thing about people with low IQs is they get caught up in the excitement of the moment and go to one extreme or the other extreme
The problem is, she wouldn't catch Floyd. We saw a former boxer tonight move laterally and force Rhonda to chase her around. Holm has a 69" reach, and used that to keep Rhonda away with well timed strikes. Rousey was already wobbly before that kick knocked her down. She did nothing but use movement and pure boxing skill to beat Rhonda's ass.
Floyd has a 72" reach, better movement, is far more elusive, would perfectly time every strike the moment Rhonda tries to get close, and he would snap her head straight back all night. That would knock her off balance, frustrate her, and render her timid on approach (if it didn't straight up KO her). Holm can't hit as hard as Floyd, or move as well as he can. She certainly isn't as accurate. Floyd would have to train only to avoid grapples and throws, because his boxing skill would be LEAGUES above anyone in MMA.
What Holm did tonight, Floyd would have done inside of 2:00.
That's not to discredit Rhonda - she's an all-time great, a superstar, and will be back. But she wouldn't touch Floyd in a fight, even under MMA rules.
Look, Rhonda is great, and she will be back, but I hope people stop thinking she could beat Floyd.
Movement, great striking, and pure boxing ability beat Rhonda's ass for a round and a half. Now imagine if that were Floyd - THE BEST trap setting fighter in history. He would have left Rhonda needing reconstructive surgery.
McGregor is an idiot if he thinks he can hurt Mayweather. Floyd has been in there with guys bigger, stronger, and who hit harder (and for a living). Professional boxers who can clobber people, and yet he's never really hurt in the ring. One or two times, maybe, but his awareness and recovery are second-to-none. If Floyd is in fighting shape for this and takes his opponent seriously, he's going to embarrass this loudmouth moron.
shit fight ......
You know what's interesting about your sig vids? Watch how many times Floyd tries to elbow Ortiz in that 2nd one. That's what he does against EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER.
That's why he fights from the stance he uses. He sticks that elbow out there when things get rough, scores some easy cuts, and then pot-shots them the rest of the night.
He will do the same to Cotto, unfortunately, and people will play it like Mayweather was a master in the ring.
He's a dirty dick-bag, like every savvy champ before him.
As for the fight in general: should have happened 4-5 years ago.
all lewis will say is land on that glass chin
haye is quicker, stronger, more skillfull and athletic. he is going to make wlad look like a bum
Haye is not stronger.
Quicker doesn't matter, because he's going to have to cover a lot of ground to make up for the reach disadvantage. Wlad's only going to need a little boxing 101 to beat that: fill the gap with a punch.
He's definitely not more skillful. He's impatient, throws wildly at times, and has lousy defense.
Athleticism could even be questioned. Sure, he's cut, but that doesn't mean fit. I'm sure Shannon Briggs could tell you a thing or two about that. Haye also has shown a history of lousy stamina against decent fighters.
Mayweather will probably win, but Hatton will make something of it. I think that Mayweather has been extremely boring as of late, and has not shown us any kind of speed that could be described as "lightning." Hatton will make Floyd fight, and you will see just how much talent he has stored away in there. He'll pour in on late, and probably stop Ricky.
Mayweather vs. Cotto would probably be more interesting.
Yogi's correct. Footage can be found with a bit of research. Furthermore, given how successful SRR was over such a stretch of time, in multiple divisions, speaks volumes over guys who struggle for even a fraction of the same success in one division (in far less time).
Clay was probably unbeatable by anyone in the division at the time. We will never know, however, and speculation of this sort is generally the kind riddled with hipocrasy.
Roy Jones Jr. is vastly underrated in the p4p speculations, probably for the way his career has been lately, and the fact that he's from a modern era (which seems to automatically rule out greatness in many people's books).
Whitaker, Leonard, Duran, Gans, Armstrong, Hearns, ah... there's too many.
I, too, hope that you are right. I would like to see De La Hoya embarass Mayweather. I don't know if Floyd will give him that chance, however, as he is very adept at avoiding punches and subsequently boring fans to sleep.
Side note: Mayweather still has a lot to prove before he'll be considered the best p4p fighter of the era. He seems to jump into a weight class, win a boring decision to earn an alphabet title, and then jump to the next before any legitimate challenges present themselves. Kind of a wuss if you ask me.
Holyfield did well enough against a Tyson who stopped caring about boxing after beating Spinks (and firing the crew that built him), had 4 1/2 years off, followed by a whopping 9 rounds of action against tomato cans. Meanwhile, Evander spent the prime of his career tuning up against the division's best. Even so, Mike had him in trouble in both fights, which were immediately chased by colossal headbutts; one that bothered Tyson through the remainder of the first fight, the second which lit a fuse and forced Mike to have a snack. In their prime(s), under ideal training and phsychological circumstances, Tyson saws him in half.
Anyway, Frazier would suffer a lot of early punishment, as he was often a slow starter. If Holyfield couldn't put him out in the early rounds, he would begin to tire, but Joe would begin to accelerate. The big difference maker here would be Evander's ability to muscle Joe around the ring. At his best, Holyfield weighed just as much, and was almost as tall as Foreman was when he met Frazier. He was also a more accurate puncher with quicker hands.
I actually have a thread lost somewhere on the Boxing History forums where we wrote up a dream scenario between these two. That one ended in round 11 with a nasty cut over Holyfield's right eye. The ref waved it off because the corner couldn't contain it, and Joe essentially had free passage to slam left hooks in there. Holyfield was up on the cards before that point, however, but I tried to cater the story to popular demend (via PM's before the story).
Bradley tried this in his second meeting with Pacquiao. It worked for about 3-4 rounds, but Manny started out-boxing him and reversed the flow of power.
People put too much into the last JMM fight. It was a perfectly timed punch that Manny recklessly dove into with his mind thinking about the end of the round. He hasn't been reckless in a while, and is fully capable of out-boxing anyone.
Manny won't be darting in and out to give Floyd his trap opportunities. He will instead try to dictate the space at all times.
So people assume that because Cotto looked a little wobbly while weight drained at 140, and because an all-time great veteran fighter in Mosley gave him trouble in the late rounds of a fight, Margarito is going to do something special?
Just because something has, or almost happened once, doesn't mean it's going to happen again. Especially since Margarito is a totally different opponent, and Cotto has improved leagues, even since the Mosley fight. He's coming into the fight naturally making weight. There won't be any dehydration. He's going to work, and work, and keep working until he simply takes the fight away from Margarito, like Frazier did in his first fight with Ali.
He's the more skilled fighter, he's still got thunder in both hands, and he's becoming more elusive. He is just hitting his prime, while this is the last go at the big time for Margarito.
It will be spectacular.
If Mayweather comes back, he should have to face the loser before facing the winner. He was never the best Welterweight.
We saw a former boxer tonight move laterally and force Rhonda to chase her around. Holm has a 69" reach, and used that to keep Rhonda away with well timed strikes. Rousey was already wobbly before that kick knocked her down. She did nothing but use movement and pure boxing skill to beat Rhonda’s ass.
Floyd Mayweather has a 72" reach, better movement, is far more elusive, would perfectly time every strike the moment Rhonda tries to get close, and he would snap her head straight back all night. That would knock her off balance, frustrate her, and render her timid on approach (if it didn’t straight up KO her). Holm can’t hit as hard as Floyd, or move as well as he can. She certainly isn’t as accurate. Floyd would have to train only to avoid grapples and throws, because his boxing skill would be LEAGUES above anyone in MMA.
What Holm did tonight, Floyd would have done inside of 2:00.
That’s not to discredit Rhonda – she’s an all-time great, a superstar, and will be back. But she wouldn’t touch Floyd in a fight, even under MMA rules. I think Floyd is a dick, but can we stop pretending this would even be a contest?!
Floyd wouldn't have any excuses to avoid him.
Household name? Why did he fight Ortiz and Guerrero then?
Recent losses? Why did he fight Maidana, or Cotto when he did?
Too big? 6 pounds isn't much.
GGG is the most exciting fighter today. People want exciting. He's undefeated, and an established champion. He's a killer.
Mayweather won't fight him because of the risk. Same reason he didn't fight Pacquiao. Difference is, GGG is much larger. That said, yes, he would be a tad weight drained and would likely suffer for it.
A healthy, but terrified Floyd would keep his distance throughout a boring, unanimous 12 round decision over a weight drained opponent.
Casual people pay for Oscar and Mayweather fights because they are told that these are the two biggest and best in the sport. So they buy it, watch it, and then think, "Man, boxing sucks now!" and they are immediately turned off forever.
Even if this trend of the best fighting the best continues and some good fights make it to free, or non Pay-per-View television, the great fights from these two Welterweights will be forgotten. Even if he finishes his career undefeated, Miguel Cotto will have trouble being considered an all-time great, simply because the general public doesn't know his name as well as the Sugar Ray's, the Ali's, etc.
It's taken the boxing world too long to realize what has to happen to put the sport back on top, and a lot of good/great fighters will suffer for it.
I remember a month ago Mayweather saying in an interview that he has such good, and intelligent people around him that he will be a billionaire by the end of the year.
Looks like he's going to be looking for fights by that time. Should have taken the rematch with De La Hoya.
Look hes gonna fight Jennings saturday. thats 2 cupcakes in his last 3 fights!!! its time to step it up, Cotto and fight some cupcakes but when Mayweather wants to fight Hatton (which was undeafted and top ten p4p) ppl wanting to say hes taking the easy route or just cherrypicking. if Mayweather fought Gomez EVERY BOXING SITE WOULD GO NUTS!!! but Cotto can do it and nobody is tripping. Im a true fan of Cotto but he needs to unify this division THIS YEAR!! no more games.
But Mayweather only fought the "tough" guys when they were smaller or washed up. He NEVER took on the best from the Welterweight division despite having 2 years to do so. Cotto has already tackled 3 greats from the division, and will likely play it out like that the rest of his career (following Saturday's contest).
He gets a break because he actually faces tougher, larger, and in-their-prime opponents.
Mayweather took the cupcake route to 39-0 and then got out of dodge when there was nothing left for him except the "good" fighters.
watch the ricaro torres,joshua clottey,mosley fights and then say that cotto has only been in 1 war. you have no credibility when you post shit comments like this one
Especially when Margarito needed the aid of plaster to stop getting his face boxed off by Cotto.
It's not even like Cotto did poorly against Margarito. He makes a few adjustments to better capitalize on his counter-punching, (like stepping in immediately to land body shots, etc.), and Margs ends up a little gassed at the end. It's easier to go forward than it is to go backwards. His adjustments will determine what happens next time. He also wasn't KO'd, he took a knee on purpose, and his corner threw in the towel. Right decision, but people tend to blow the outcome way out of proportion without considering the intangibles.
As to this fight, if Cotto boxes like he did against Margarito, and manages to force some inside work as well, he'll tear Cintron up.
Margarito's power is a lot like Pavlik's power: it's there, but it's the accumulation of punches that scores a KO.
Know this! February 24 is Floyd Mayweather's birthday. He announced the first Maidana fight on his birthday which is February 24.
Yeah, and some *****s guaranteed he'd announce the fight during the Super Bowl.
Cotto is an all-time great (believe it or not), who got cheated once (Margarito), was oddly matched once (Trout), destroyed by Pacquiao but was fighting well before that point, and was NOT in a good place when he fought Floyd. That said, he still messed up Floyd's face.
Pacquiao is obviously a legend who fought Floyd 1-handed.
De La Hoya had taken considerable amounts of time off, and had he thrown about 5 more jabs per round, he would have won.
Castillo legitimately beat Floyd the first time they fought, but Floyd was admittedly injured.
Other than that, I can't call anything Floyd's done "legendary" as far as his opponents are concerned. Yet I'd still pick that ******* to beat most other champions in history. Why? Because he'd do what he always does: slow the fight down, create awkward space, take pot shots to make his opponent gun shy, and win a 12 round decision.
Remember....Shane has 5 losses.
And still has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather...
This fight won't happen, but IF IT DOES, I won't be surprised. He'll dodge the 2 best WW's and Pacquaio (even though he should fight all three, no matter if they win, lose, or draw to each other during the wait), until they are old, or he decides to retire because he wants to blow--I mean, invest his money again.
He didn't fight the best when he was active, and he wouldn't have had any drawing power without De La Hoya or Hatton. Mayweather has absolutely no ground to stand on in terms of negotiations. He should go down to JMM's weight, as he's the current champ and an active fighter.
Yeah, drain pacquiao. Don't accept the 14 day cut-off period, tell him to do a 1-day cut off period so you can suck the blood out of his mental-state.
Yeah, lets play more mental games because thats how we win our fights. We like to mentally break-down fighters.
Because Floyd's definitely not going to beat Pacquiao any other way.
Don't most people already consider B-HOP a greater fight than Calzaghe?
Maybe. Perhaps that's what bugs B-Hop. Both of these guys beat him in ugly, decision victories, and he feels as though they owe him something.
They don't. They are going out with a bang, and getting a lot of attention for it. Hopkins will always be mentioned with Jones and Calzaghe, but will be the third guy; like Hearns was with Hagler and Leonard, like Frazier was with Ali and Foreman.
He's an all-time p4p great, no doubt, and a top 5 all-time middleweight champion.
Delusional Cotto fan lol... Sergio looked like sht in the fight before Cotto and he's talking about retiring and hasn't fought since... GTFOH with this BS... If you think Cotto's win over Sergio proves he can beat Mayweather... Mayweather will do much better in a rematch... I think Floyd actually stops this new Cotto because this new Cotto is more aggressive and open for Floyd's counters and Floyd has already hurt him in the first fight... Cotto never hurt Floyd just bloodied his nose and won some rounds...
If you order Floyd-Cotto 2, then that means you don't want to see Floyd-Pacquiao...
Or, you know, it was the only decent fight available because Mayweather won't fight Pacquiao.