Tough luck for Dale. He's not known as a quick starter, and an accidental headbutt caused a cut on Swartz and it went to the cards. One round earlier and it probabaly would have been a technical draw. :(
LOL
1) I see you trying to turn around what I said as though it's ME who has the beef with YOU. It pissed you off because you were so clearly wrong, and knew it. It became apparent from reading your posts that you had gone back to look, seen you were wrong, and were trying to dodge, divert and distract. :)
2) You're clueless. I said right from the get-go in the thread that Maskaev has a GLASS JAW. Other than that he's a decent fighter. His chin has always been his demise. But he has a GLASS JAW. So you have no clue or point, once again.
3) I actually do have an idea when he was hurt in the round. LOL You see, I watch boxing and know the sport and for some crazy reason I think he JUST MIGHT have been hurt when he, uh, got hit with a right hand and his knees buckled, RIGHT BEFORE your clip began. ROFL
Bozo, you're one for the message board hall of shame, I assure you. All time, baby. :)
Spin spin spin, it's all your good for.
Your recolection of your ignorance is as deluded as your ignorance itself.
It's clearly you that has the problem, and has from the get go. You're angry that I exposed you for what you are, and you illustrated that AGAIN by bringing up this old topic that you were made to look foolish in.
You jumped in clearly upset that I was knocking a white Heavyweight, and went on a rant about how you knew what shot it was that hurt him like you recalled being hit with it yourself. The bottom line is a jab sent him tumbling to the canvass, but the point of it was who threw the jab. That was Goofi Whittaker.
I exposed you for the nut hugging clueless bitch you are, and you've been sore about it ever since as is evident in you bringing up again to SPIN SPIN SPIN away from the fact you've made a further ass of yourself in this thread by crying prematurly about fights that haven't happned yet, spinning away and jumping topics.
I've seen right through you since day one, and it's a lot of fun easilly and effortlessly exposing you for the nut hugging topic switching nutter that you are.
re bozo no no:
isn't it a factor to take into account that there is (and has been for a while) a more than generous offer on the table for mayweather to fight margarito(while there are none to fight those other guys)?
i would think that a guaranteed 8 mill. for the #1 p4p fighter in the world to fight a guy that is not even in the top 20 p4p is a darned steal. mayweather has fought guys who, ranked higher than that p4p for less money before. in fact, the 8 mill. would be a career-high purse.
i cannot understand your stance.
You weren't reading then.
I think it's pretty clear the only reason Arum made that offer is because he knew it wasn't feisable for Floyd to fight at that time. In October, he's not just missing Roger, his other trainer is still suspended. Arum also knew Floyd (who has a multi fight deal with HBO) is already signed to fight his own PPV date Nov. 4th.
An 8 Million dollar purse is completely unrealistic for that fight. It's not worth that much money, meaning Margarito would get next to nothing.
Arum's a snake, and notorious for fucking with anyone who crosses him. Mayweather left Top Rank, and I think this is just Arum blowing smoke to fuck with Floyd.
If Margarito wanted the fight as badly as some suggest, he'd be screaming for the Nov. 4th date, considering he'd be making the same money as he would 'if' that Oct date went through.
But the bottom line is that Tony will be content to take a payday on his own date in October.
He's not yelling and screaming like some of these losers on the internet are. I think he knows a Floyd fight will still be available to him at a later date if he keeps winning.
LOL, breaking into Erkel mode again, I see. If the fight is to be made, then one guy will have to back out of his date. Arum OF COURSE can make this happen, or why would he draw up a contract, publicly offer this fight to him, etc. You're talking about probably the most powerful promoter in the business. They can buy that date, Arum can make another fight on that date, etc.
Arum said it's only good in Oct. Would he offer a contract that cannot be signed? LOL Oh yeah, this is the new Floyd stance. To keep repeating "Nov 4th" over and and over like he did in the Leon chat, so he's publically married to that date and not obligated to fight Margarito, since the numbers only work for the fight in Oct, which Arum said last week, and which this week Mayweather said "Nov 4th" about 50 times in that chat. LOL Coincidence?
And Bozo has picked up the ball and run with it. LOL It's just like Mayweather buying the last fight of his contract out of Arum, because he knew that would be against Margarito. Floyd does not want Margarito. Keep denying it all you want, but until he signs to fight him then I think it's pretty clear that's the case. :)
Gee, why would a sleazy promoter offer a contract he knows will not be accepted?
Hmm, it's not like there's a history of non sense like that happening.
Arum wouldn't have any reason to have some kind of beef with Floyd would he?
He's not known as a guy to fuck with fighters who piss him off is he?
LOL.
See what a fruit cake you are?
Once again, the only one here drawing concrete conclusions off things he knows NOTHING about is you.
HBO isn't going to let Floyd back out of his date with them without consequence. He's got a multi fight deal, and fucking that up would be outright stupid.
Once again, neither fighter is likely to move from their date, yet you use the situation to forwad your biased ignorant agenda of giddy premature hating.
One of these days it's going to click in how much of a joke you are, and I hope when it does you'll think of all the times I've so helpfully tried to point this out to you.
Well, let's just hope Floyd narrows it down to Margarito, Mosley (if he wins), or Hatton. Let's all hope Gatti takes out Baldomir for sure because you just know Floyd will take on Baldomir if he's still got the belt after the 22nd
Hatton's not fighting Mayweather this year.
His camp has said they'll look to fight him in '07.
Shane was and is a name, but he still can't carry a main even alone. He's never been popular in the sense that people pay to go and see him fight. And he beat delahoya once and robbed in their next meeting.
What is it you guys are getting at with this?
Who IS so popular they could carry a main event alone that Floyd might fight?
Shane would be a good opponent if he beats Vargas again.
Like I said in another post, "I hope Morales can manage to make weight without drainning himself." Id rather see Morales beat Pac at 130 than 132, but that 2 pounds was just to help Morales make weight cause we all know how hard it is for him, thats why I said no wonder they won't give Morales that.
There's no "no wonder they won't give Morales that".
Either he makes weight, or he doesn't.
You seem to insinuating they are trying to gain an advantage by forcing Morales to honor his contracted weight by fighting in the division they're both currently (and long time) ranked in.
Morales would be gaining an advantage to do otherwise.
Asking that the fight take place at the contracted weight is fair right down the middle.
see the fight again, what jab?
Ahh, the 100+ Jabs Winky landed??
You need a pair of glasses bro.
First you score Tarver Hopkins 7-5 and now you say something like this.
Unreal.
i aggree taylor would win but i think mora would give him hell for a few rounds. it'd be interesting to see this i think i don't know if its ppv though, but it will diffently get a lot of media attention.
And just how is he going to give him hell?
With almost no power and defense nowhere near that of Winky's, what's he going to do?
Roy Jones has everything he's always had minus an aura of invincibility to protect him. His speed is still there, but his soul was taken by Tarver, and he will never get it back.
Did you see how Hopkins fought the best version of Tarver in the last ten years?
Tarver wasn't flat. Hopkins made him look flat.
:D
you never did follow winkys career did you?
winky wasn't supposedd to do what he did to taylor with his pillow punchs.
What are you talking about?
Winky backed Taylor up with one of the best Jabs in the sport. Mora's doesn't even come CLOSE.
So once again, just how is Mora going to give Taylor 'hell'?
If Shane beats Vargas, I think that's the most interesting fight for Floyd.
I'd like to see the Margarito fight too, but Shane's style (imo) makes for a more interesting match up.
I'm sure that pointing out facts is really considered hating, is it? Well, maybe to nuthuggers it is. ;)
I like how you aviod adressing the FACT that neither of them have an opponent signed for thier next fights yet, make biased speculations, and then call them facts.
This coming from one of the biggest nut huggers on this site.
Pony up the pocket change to read **********'s chat transcripts with Floyd.
See the difference in "hearsay" and official statements? Bozo, making a fool out of you is like taking candy from a baby, son.
Making a FOOL of yourself once again.
Just yesterday he mentioned he's obligated to HBO to fight Nov. 4th, and that Margarito is one of the possibilites for the date.
All you do is come into threads about Floyd talking about how he's not fighting Margarito when neither of them have a fight signed. That would be you, talking out of you ass to suit your biased agenda.
Geez he couldnt even KO a guy who jumped up 2 weight classes and was coming off a TKO loss to a guy who has also tkod him in 1 before, and i heard pac got hurt bad in round 2 or 3, very disappointing performance
As usual, you show why you're a bitter little twit who no one should listen to.
I don't know what's more funny, suggesting there was anything wrong with Pacquiao dominating 10 rounds to 2, or the fact you openly admit to making judgement when you haven't seen the fight.
Stick to concentrating on grade 11.
Boxing's for the adults. :rolleyes:
thats what happens on this site every time a big fight is on the round for round roster! ill say this Pac_man didnt dominate but he fought his fought a close but subpar performance its good but its pac, his lost three fights and i see him losing more unless his more dominate AND THATS A FACT
Hoskins what have you been smoking.
He won 10 rounds to 2 with two knock downs.
Gerry Penalosa http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=001782
is a young Pinoy fighter taking on gritty Mexican veteran Tomas Rojas.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=031580
They're both having their momnets.
Good fight so far.
Jones was not the same fighter after cutting that weight and dropping back down from Heavyweight.
Anyone who suggests that the Jones who fought Tarver was anywhere near the fighter he was 2 or 3 years earlier is doing so out of ignornace and or spite.
Isreal was getting the best of him early, but a lot of people talk like Oscar got stretched in that fight when in actuality it was a cut.
Two losses yes, but nothing to be ashamed of in either case.
Weight and muscle loss is never an excuse for a prizefighter who schedules his own fights. If he can't make weight in healthy fashion by a certain date, change the date. It's that simple.
At that age, it factors in an athlete's preformace for the rest of their career.
Once again, all you're doing is illusrating what an angry little kid you are with nothing better to do than come to a boxing forum to spout the same ignorant and biased agenda.
Find something new to talk about, because your ignorance is as boring as it is sad.
Mosley isn't fast enough to compete with Mayweather. Maybe at lightweight he was, but at welterweight or junior middleweight, I see Mayweather tearing him up with his speed. He won't knock Mayweather out because he can't punch through the gloves hard enough if he ever gets Mayweather cornered. I think Mayweather owns Mosley. Mayweather would probably outbox the shit out of Margarito, but Margarito at least stands a chance of scoring a KO due to his power.
Coreley rung Mayweather, and Shane is faster, stronger, harder hitting and has more chin.
It's a better fight than a lot of the other options out there.
this is an interesting issue you bring out, because PBF is a promotional "free agent" now. that implies that he does not have a promoter that is actively shopping his services around and trying to make fights for him.
floyd has to sit around and wait for his manager to be either seeking to talk to the promoters of the fighters he wants to handpick, or simply wait for phonecalls to come to him.
margarito cannot go looking for another fight right at the moment, if you know what i mean. fans are not drumming for mayweather to fight anyone else or for margarito to fight someone else. margarito is next in line and though PBF is only going to give him birdseed in the contract that birdseed makes a pretty good retirement in mexico.
see, both hatton and cotto have promoters, and since they are kind of reluctant to face mayweather at this point, their promoters are not going to go out of their way to make mayweather an offer. this is why i think it is great for mayweather to have an excellent offer on the table to fight a guy that is willing to take him.
it's pretty simple, really. he doesn't want to fight margarito unless he has too.
You didn't adress anything I said.
Floyd's under contract to fight Nov. 4th.
Tony's got a date in early October.
Floyd's not going to fight in October for the reasons I listed above.
Once again: If Tony's so desperate for the fight, why isn't he yelling for the Nov. 4th date, considering Mayweather said two days ago he was a possible opponent for that date.
As I mentioned in the previous post, Margarito's purse is likely to be the same on either date.
The reason is that Margarito isn't as desperate for the fight as some of the rabbid haters on here are suggesting.
Bozo, I've been a member of BT since before that ass-kissing dwarf Leon even owned the site. LOL So just sit back and relax, son. I read it- it's Floyd posturing and patting himself on the back. Arum has already said Floyd has shown no interest in that contract to fight Margarito for a career-high purse.
If Floyd signs to fight Margarito on Nov 4th, then he's not dodging him, obviously. But all signs point to him dodging Margarito and Margarito having to fight Rivera instead. :)
It's all about Floyd saving face. Just like when Floyd makes an excuse for turning Winky down by calling him outrageous for wanting a 50-50 split with him. LOL
That's funny how at several points in the past you've waited for me to post clips from their transcripts before being wowed at the info :rolleyes:
Once again, he's obligated to fight on Nov. 4th. That makes fighting in early October not an option.
Because they both don't have opponents lined up, it's not inconceivable they could meet on Nov 4th.
It suits your biased agenda to assume otherwise so you can continue to spout your non sense.
Boring and see through as usual.
Thanks for giving me some karma. You guys are good people.
My former user name was Riku90, until thagreatest got me banned.
I'm still waiting for you to say something awsome.
If I like, I'll give you some good K. :cool:
Jones lost 20+ pounds of muscle at 34 years old. That's something you don't get over. When you combine that with the fact he's a fighter that relied on reflex his whole career, it's easy to see why and when he clearly slipped. Ali and Leonard were both cut from the same cloth, and both of them slipped significatly at and after 35 years old when they began to lose some of their reflex.
It couldn't be anymore obvious:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/dantzu/JonesWeight.jpg
Um, you already know this (apparently since you have access to BT, also) that Arum has said that after Oct the T&M is booked up and the dollars might not be there if it's not in Vegas in Oct.
Do you even read my posts? Try reading occasionally. It works wonders sometimes. :)
What part of 'Floyd's fighting on Nov. 4th' do you not understand?
It's part of his HBO contract to headline on Nov. 4th.
We'll see if Margarito's offered the fight, and if he takes it, or passes it up to fight another Gomez on his own date.
With his career high wins over Cintron and 6-Heads Lewis, it will be nice to see him step up and make a concession to take this fight that people like you seem to insist he's so desperate for.
:rolleyes:
Um, what white fighters are we even discussing? LOL STRIKE ONE.
You are now agreeing that Mayweather is unlikely to fight Margarito on Nov 4th, after saying over and over that he shouldn't be criticized because he might be fighting him. LOL STRIKE TWO.
What fight is going to make Floyd more than a guaranteed! $8.5M this year? LOL STRIKE THREE.
Now you've gotten outright comical.
Part of your nut hugging white fighters is critisizing black fighters. It's what you do and why you come here.
Margarito giving up the fight because he doesn't want to leave his own date to fight on Floyds is just as bad, but since your agenda here is clearly the same old biased one that it always is, you don't hold other fighters to the same standard.
Floyd mentioned in his chat transcript yesterday Margarito is a possibility for his Nov. 4th date. If Margarito wants to fight Floyd as badly as people like you suggest, he'd jump at the chance. We'll see how that plays out.
Until then, you just continue ranting where it suits your biased laughable agenda. It couldn't be anymore see through.
Remember the thread I made asking why Hatton isn't shouting for a Mayweather fight? Not much to say about that when his skin's white, hey champ? lol