These days, Floyd Mayweather's nick name "Pretty Boy Floyd", has been changed by many fans... a lot of fans how now changed that Nick name from "Pretty Boy" to "FRAUD Mayweather Jr." Many fans believe ducking 8 million dollar pay day against Antonio Margarito can mean only one thing...Floyd is in fear of Margarito. Many fans are even refusing to give Mayweather a decent place on their Pound for Pound list.
Bob Arum who promoted Mayweather and is still the promoter for Margarito seems to agree with fans. Arum is quoted in the Grand Rapids Press as saying "He (Mayweather) can say whatever he wants but he's terrified of Margarito.That's
the only explanation."
Arum went further, adding: "It would be his biggest purse ever, by far. So if he weren't terrified, he would go ahead with the fight and pick up the $8 million, then try to make the fight with (Oscar) De La Hoya, right? I suppose Mayweather could go fight Baldomir, if Baldomir beats Gatti, but that's no pay-per-view fight. These opponents aren't in the business of fighting Mayweather and letting him have all the money. I don't know what he's thinking, but I would say there's a very good possibility he won't fight again this year."
The deadline to face Antonio Margarito is fast approaching and Arum says they will move elsewhere and fight someone else if Floyd isn't interested.
margarito cannot go looking for another fight right at the moment, if you know what i mean. fans are not drumming for mayweather to fight anyone else or for margarito to fight someone else. margarito is next in line and though PBF is only going to give him birdseed in the contract that birdseed makes a pretty good retirement in mexico.
it's pretty simple, really. he doesn't want to fight margarito unless he has too.
After taxes and paying everybody off, out of the 1 million, Margarito probably only goes home with half of that. Which is a lot of money, and especially in Mexico. But thats not the reson why Margrito is willing to fight Mayweather for peanuts COMPARED to the 8 million Mayweather will get for this fight.
But If i was Margarito if Mayweather or Winky doesn't aggree to fight him -which they already turned him down- then If i was Margarito, i just keep fighting any ballsy mf who will enter the ring with him. And let the fans force a fight between either Maywether and Winky then ask from a better deal then the one hes already offerd.
Margarito is getting a lot of plublicity and all he has to do now is fight known fighters with some kind of name and sooner or later they all will be forced to fight Margarito. But the problem here is that nobody wants to face Margarito, especially the top names in the division.
this is an interesting issue you bring out, because PBF is a promotional "free agent" now. that implies that he does not have a promoter that is actively shopping his services around and trying to make fights for him.
floyd has to sit around and wait for his manager to be either seeking to talk to the promoters of the fighters he wants to handpick, or simply wait for phonecalls to come to him.
margarito cannot go looking for another fight right at the moment, if you know what i mean. fans are not drumming for mayweather to fight anyone else or for margarito to fight someone else. margarito is next in line and though PBF is only going to give him birdseed in the contract that birdseed makes a pretty good retirement in mexico.
see, both hatton and cotto have promoters, and since they are kind of reluctant to face mayweather at this point, their promoters are not going to go out of their way to make mayweather an offer. this is why i think it is great for mayweather to have an excellent offer on the table to fight a guy that is willing to take him.
it's pretty simple, really. he doesn't want to fight margarito unless he has too.
You didn't adress anything I said.
Floyd's under contract to fight Nov. 4th.
Tony's got a date in early October.
Floyd's not going to fight in October for the reasons I listed above.
Once again: If Tony's so desperate for the fight, why isn't he yelling for the Nov. 4th date, considering Mayweather said two days ago he was a possible opponent for that date.
As I mentioned in the previous post, Margarito's purse is likely to be the same on either date.
The reason is that Margarito isn't as desperate for the fight as some of the rabbid haters on here are suggesting.
re bozo no no:
isn't it a factor to take into account that there is (and has been for a while) a more than generous offer on the table for mayweather to fight margarito(while there are none to fight those other guys)?
i would think that a guaranteed 8 mill. for the #1 p4p fighter in the world to fight a guy that is not even in the top 20 p4p is a darned steal. mayweather has fought guys who, ranked higher than that p4p for less money before. in fact, the 8 mill. would be a career-high purse.
i cannot understand your stance.
You weren't reading then.
I think it's pretty clear the only reason Arum made that offer is because he knew it wasn't feisable for Floyd to fight at that time. In October, he's not just missing Roger, his other trainer is still suspended. Arum also knew Floyd (who has a multi fight deal with HBO) is already signed to fight his own PPV date Nov. 4th.
An 8 Million dollar purse is completely unrealistic for that fight. It's not worth that much money, meaning Margarito would get next to nothing.
Arum's a snake, and notorious for fucking with anyone who crosses him. Mayweather left Top Rank, and I think this is just Arum blowing smoke to fuck with Floyd.
If Margarito wanted the fight as badly as some suggest, he'd be screaming for the Nov. 4th date, considering he'd be making the same money as he would 'if' that Oct date went through.
But the bottom line is that Tony will be content to take a payday on his own date in October.
He's not yelling and screaming like some of these losers on the internet are. I think he knows a Floyd fight will still be available to him at a later date if he keeps winning.
DLH said hes not fighting the rest of this year, but hasn't ruled out a PBF/DLH fight next year. i don't think PBF is going to do anything stupid to jeopardize that huge payday. what if PBF were to lose against a dangerous margarito? the DLH/PBF fight would lose alot of luster and he wouldn't collect bank like he could have had he played it safe before the fight. i don't see mayweather fighting a seriously dangerous fight until he's fought DLH. and i have a feeling the first fight after PBF/DLH will be PBF/margarito. regardless of how that sounds, boxing is a business, where guys need to weigh the money they make in their career as top priority.
Of course he could get out of it, are you retarded? If Mayweather wanted the fight he would say "Hey, Arum, I cannot fight in Oct, because there's no way for me to get out of my Nov 4th date." But he won't say that, why? Because he knows that Arum would work a deal in about 14 secs with HBO to make the fight happen. But Floyd doesn't want it, even for a career-high payday, so he's sticking to his Nov 4th date. Simple. Just like buying Arum out of his contract to avoid Margarito. Floyd does not want Margarito, that is painfully obvious to anyone with more than about 4 working brain cells.
Wrong again, because according to Mayweather, Margartio is one of the potential fights for his November date.
But have you heard Margarito say "I'm willing to forget my October date because I want to fight Floyd anytime anyplace".
No, you haven't heard him say that, because he wants his own date in October. And with the money offered to Floyd for the October date they know he can't take, Margarito would be making peanuts if they split the purse that heavyilly in Floyds favor.
So if Tony's not making big bucks in October, what does it matter to him when he fights Floyd if he's not doing it for a big payday?
Funny how you only spin your biased non sense the way you want it to come off for the sake of your mindless ignorance.
There's many cards yet to fall here, and you're only jumping up and down ranting prematurly because it's why you come to this site.
See why you originally switched away from this topic? Because you had NOTHING to say.
LOL
Isn't it strange that the guys who say that PBF can't punch are the pudgy keyboard jockeys on a forum...and never his opponents.
Interesting.
That's a good one. LMAO
Speaking of switching topics, what was that about Mayweather being able to walk away from his contracted HBO date?
LOL :rofl:
Of course he could get out of it, are you retarded? If Mayweather wanted the fight he would say "Hey, Arum, I cannot fight in Oct, because there's no way for me to get out of my Nov 4th date." But he won't say that, why? Because he knows that Arum would work a deal in about 14 secs with HBO to make the fight happen. But Floyd doesn't want it, even for a career-high payday, so he's sticking to his Nov 4th date. Simple. Just like buying Arum out of his contract to avoid Margarito. Floyd does not want Margarito, that is painfully obvious to anyone with more than about 4 working brain cells.
anybody who thinks mayweather would make 8 million for fighting margarito is a retard..nobody outside of true boxing fans know who margarito is..how many times have u seen a margarito interview or highlights on TV?
I know him and I don't consider myself a true boxing fan.Also, not all mexicans are and surprise most of them know him too.
This is how I know you're a psychopath with deep issues. I said in the thread that Maskaev has a glass chin. And that's probably the extent of any Maskaev discussion I've ever been involved in. I know he was hurt by a right hand before your clip began because he had Whitaker against the ropes, got hit by the rigth hand, his legs buckled and he started going backwards and then YOUR CLIP BEGAN and showed the last one-two that put him down. I mean, you denied there was any right hand that landed before your clip began, that's how psychotic you are. LOL I looked for the thread, just for laughs, but it appears to be too old. Too bad, it would have been fun to bump it into thunderdome and have some fun making a fool out of you all over again. :)
Once again, you're in denial, and it's as funny as your current ignorance is.
you claim to know which shot caused him to get knocked out, when the combonation that ended off with the jab was clearly what put him down and out.
Just like then, the fact that you think your opinion on which shot was ultimatly responsible of sending him down is quite funny. But coming from a guy who dictates what fighters are thinking like he's got a hyperlink into thier heads, it's no suprize.
You were upset a white Heavyweight was getting trash talked, and you came trolling in and tried to spin the topic. I told you then why you were making an ass of yourself just like I did now.
And in classic fashion, you left with your tail between your legs. That, and spinning and switching topics is your staple.
Speaking of switching topics, what was that about Mayweather being able to walk away from his contracted HBO date?
LOL :rofl:
Can I have a sniff of that glue?
It was painfully obvious you trolled in to swing from Maskaev's jock. You went on an outright rant about a shot that did him in that to this day you have no way of knowing. Maskaev was standing and had his wits about him before he ate the last combonation, and a crunching jab sent him down.
This is how I know you're a psychopath with deep issues. I said in the thread that Maskaev has a glass chin. And that's probably the extent of any Maskaev discussion I've ever been involved in. I know he was hurt by a right hand before your clip began because he had Whitaker against the ropes, got hit by the rigth hand, his legs buckled and he started going backwards and then YOUR CLIP BEGAN and showed the last one-two that put him down. I mean, you denied there was any right hand that landed before your clip began, that's how psychotic you are. LOL I looked for the thread, just for laughs, but it appears to be too old. Too bad, it would have been fun to bump it into thunderdome and have some fun making a fool out of you all over again. :)
WTf are you on? LOL We never argued about any of that.
Yes, everyone could see the last punch put him down (duh) and everyone knows Maskaev has a glass-chin (duh).
It became an argument when you denied there was a right hand that landed right before you clip began, an innocent comment by me that you for some reason felt the need to contradict me about and go on a denial mission about, and I still have no clue why.
And ever since then I've been wondering what kind of space cadet I'm dealing with who sees he is wrong, that a right hand landed right before his clip began and hurt Maskaev, yet denies it after re-watching it and seeing it for himself.
Section 8, my friend. LOL You have some deep, deep issues. You need some form of regression therapy, and while you're there ask if there's any expirimental drugs that aren't yet FDA approved that they could try on you. :) Good luck!
Can I have a sniff of that glue?
It was painfully obvious you trolled in to swing from Maskaev's jock. You went on an outright rant about a shot that did him in that to this day you have no way of knowing. Maskaev was standing and had his wits about him before he ate the last combonation, and a crunching jab sent him down.
You're notorious for talking about things (just like Maskaev being hurt, or what you think fighters think) like you have first hand knowledge. That makes you a joke.
All you do is talk out of your ass, and when you get called on it, you spin spin spin.
Notice how you're no longer spewing your uninformed biased non sene about Mayweahter?
Same old same old. You're a joke, and a topic changing little bitch.
I point it out every single time, and after 4 or 5 topic changes you leave with your tail between your legs.
Spin spin spin, it's all your good for.
Your recolection of your ignorance is as deluded as your ignorance itself.
It's clearly you that has the problem, and has from the get go. You're angry that I exposed you for what you are, and you illustrated that AGAIN by bringing up this old topic that you were made to look foolish in.
You jumped in clearly upset that I was knocking a white Heavyweight, and went on a rant about how you knew what shot it was that hurt him like you recalled being hit with it yourself. The bottom line is a jab sent him tumbling to the canvass, but the point of it was who threw the jab. That was Goofi Whittaker.
I exposed you for the nut hugging clueless bitch you are, and you've been sore about it ever since as is evident in you bringing up again to SPIN SPIN SPIN away from the fact you've made a further ass of yourself in this thread by crying prematurly about fights that haven't happned yet, spinning away and jumping topics.
I've seen right through you since day one, and it's a lot of fun easilly and effortlessly exposing you for the nut hugging topic switching nutter that you are.
WTf are you on? LOL We never argued about any of that.
Yes, everyone could see the last punch put him down (duh) and everyone knows Maskaev has a glass-chin (duh).
It became an argument when you denied there was a right hand that landed right before you clip began, an innocent comment by me that you for some reason felt the need to contradict me about and go on a denial mission about, and I still have no clue why.
And ever since then I've been wondering what kind of space cadet I'm dealing with who sees he is wrong, that a right hand landed right before his clip began and hurt Maskaev, yet denies it after re-watching it and seeing it for himself.
Section 8, my friend. LOL You have some deep, deep issues. You need some form of regression therapy, and while you're there ask if there's any expirimental drugs that aren't yet FDA approved that they could try on you. :) Good luck!
LOL
1) I see you trying to turn around what I said as though it's ME who has the beef with YOU. It pissed you off because you were so clearly wrong, and knew it. It became apparent from reading your posts that you had gone back to look, seen you were wrong, and were trying to dodge, divert and distract. :)
2) You're clueless. I said right from the get-go in the thread that Maskaev has a GLASS JAW. Other than that he's a decent fighter. His chin has always been his demise. But he has a GLASS JAW. So you have no clue or point, once again.
3) I actually do have an idea when he was hurt in the round. LOL You see, I watch boxing and know the sport and for some crazy reason I think he JUST MIGHT have been hurt when he, uh, got hit with a right hand and his knees buckled, RIGHT BEFORE your clip began. ROFL
Bozo, you're one for the message board hall of shame, I assure you. All time, baby. :)
Spin spin spin, it's all your good for.
Your recolection of your ignorance is as deluded as your ignorance itself.
It's clearly you that has the problem, and has from the get go. You're angry that I exposed you for what you are, and you illustrated that AGAIN by bringing up this old topic that you were made to look foolish in.
You jumped in clearly upset that I was knocking a white Heavyweight, and went on a rant about how you knew what shot it was that hurt him like you recalled being hit with it yourself. The bottom line is a jab sent him tumbling to the canvass, but the point of it was who threw the jab. That was Goofi Whittaker.
I exposed you for the nut hugging clueless bitch you are, and you've been sore about it ever since as is evident in you bringing up again to SPIN SPIN SPIN away from the fact you've made a further ass of yourself in this thread by crying prematurly about fights that haven't happned yet, spinning away and jumping topics.
I've seen right through you since day one, and it's a lot of fun easilly and effortlessly exposing you for the nut hugging topic switching nutter that you are.
You made a fool of yourself then just like you're doing now. But in the end, it's nice of you to illustrate where your beef with me began, because I remember it well.
You were upset Maskaev was being talked about as being a shitty fighter. Which is ironic when you consider the amount of effort you put in to defending him when you contrast that with the amount of time and effort you put in critisizing Mayweather. But without such golden moments, you wouldn't be the biased flake you are.
You have no idea where he was hurt in that round, because he's on his feet until he's knocked off them by a jab. You didn't like the thought of Maskarv, a white Heavyweight, being talked about in this light, so you found a way to drive off topic and cry.
In the end, you looked like the giant ranting fool you are. Something I've enjoyed illustrating ever since.
And this thread, filled with premature hate and uninformed assumption making, continues that great tradition.
:rofl:
LOL
1) I see you trying to turn around what I said as though it's ME who has the beef with YOU. It pissed you off because you were so clearly wrong, and knew it. It became apparent from reading your posts that you had gone back to look, seen you were wrong, and were trying to dodge, divert and distract. :)
2) You're clueless. I said right from the get-go in the thread that Maskaev has a GLASS JAW. Other than that he's a decent fighter. His chin has always been his demise. But he has a GLASS JAW. So you have no clue or point, once again.
3) I actually do have an idea when he was hurt in the round. LOL You see, I watch boxing and know the sport and for some crazy reason I think he JUST MIGHT have been hurt when he, uh, got hit with a right hand and his knees buckled, RIGHT BEFORE your clip began. ROFL
Bozo, you're one for the message board hall of shame, I assure you. All time, baby. :)
Your right about one thing he has beaten a lot of bums, and as far as Arum, I could give a shit less about him. I don't like Arum myself so it's not like I am taking his side but when Floyd talks about fightind Baldomir,Kostya Tsyzu pr the Mosely if he wins further makes people think he wants no part of Marg. when there is 8 million on the table for the second time. Fighting Shane at this point in his career doesn't mean as much as it would have if he would have fought him in his prime at welter.
Now I hear u cuz, but what Champ actually goes out looking for opponents, he did that enough in the climb to become champ, "F" Margarita, mang!! Mayweather has & will KO ur favorite boxers, & hate it or love it, ain't a dam thing, even PFB can do about it (unless his opponents start packin heat). Now Can U Dig Dat!!! :boxing:
These days, Floyd Mayweather's nick name "Pretty Boy Floyd", has been changed by many fans... a lot of fans how now changed that Nick name from "Pretty Boy" to "FRAUD Mayweather Jr." Many fans believe ducking 8 million dollar pay day against Antonio Margarito can mean only one thing...Floyd is in fear of Margarito. Many fans are even refusing to give Mayweather a decent place on their Pound for Pound list.
First off, Floyd's the only cat to still have his title today(he didn't lose it then get it back, the cat never lost it, & still hasn't found anyone to beat him yet). Next, it's only natural to want to see an undefeated guy lose (4 ya'll haters) if he's been takin out all bums (I'll let u guys name off his winning streak opposition). Last thing I want y'all to understand is that, Arum was just caught up in some legal sh*t wit ODLH, then some legal stuff wit the commission (all in '05). If anybody's a fraud, it's ya boy Fraud (BOB) Arum. Now Can U Dig Dat!!!! :boxing:
Your right about one thing he has beaten a lot of bums, and as far as Arum, I could give a shit less about him. I don't like Arum myself so it's not like I am taking his side but when Floyd talks about fightind Baldomir,Kostya Tsyzu pr the Mosely if he wins further makes people think he wants no part of Marg. when there is 8 million on the table for the second time. Fighting Shane at this point in his career doesn't mean as much as it would have if he would have fought him in his prime at welter.
These days, Floyd Mayweather's nick name "Pretty Boy Floyd", has been changed by many fans... a lot of fans how now changed that Nick name from "Pretty Boy" to "FRAUD Mayweather Jr." Many fans believe ducking 8 million dollar pay day against Antonio Margarito can mean only one thing...Floyd is in fear of Margarito. Many fans are even refusing to give Mayweather a decent place on their Pound for Pound list.
First off, Floyd's the only cat to still have his title today(he didn't lose it then get it back, the cat never lost it, & still hasn't found anyone to beat him yet). Next, it's only natural to want to see an undefeated guy lose (4 ya'll haters) if he's been takin out all bums (I'll let u guys name off his winning streak opposition). Last thing I want y'all to understand is that, Arum was just caught up in some legal sh*t wit ODLH, then some legal stuff wit the commission (all in '05). If anybody's a fraud, it's ya boy Fraud (BOB) Arum. Now Can U Dig Dat!!!! :boxing: