I think, Lewis was a great fighter, but to say he would destroy Wlad like he did it with Michael Grant? LOL! Wlad is 10000000 times better than Grant! :boxing: Grant was destroyed in 43 seconds by Jameel McCline, so McCline should've KO'ed Wlad in 1 round, I guess? (Wlad stopped McCline in 10 rounds, if you don't know). Wlad will be tough opponent for Lennox because of his power, speed and great jab - Lewis always had problems with fighters, who had a good jab. But Lennox would be very tough opponent for Wlad as well, mostly because his great inside uppercuts. Both Wlad and Lennox have great power, so both could KO each other. I think, Lewis was more relaxed in the ring and had more killer instinct than Wlad, so if Lewis turns the fight into brawl (and I think he would after few rounds of cautious boxing), I'd give the edge to him. One thing for sure - if any of them lands his best punch, the opponent will go down.
By the way, here is opinion of the man, who have trained both Lewis and Wlad, Emanuel Steward: "Lewis was a more versatile fighter (than Wlad), he could completely restructure the course of a fight. I worked with five world champions in the heavyweight division, including Evander Holyfield. And I will say that Wladimir 's body of work and his coordination is better than all the rest of my students. However, sometimes he must act more aggressively. Sometimes he thinks for too long".
But at the same time, Steward says that Wlad hits harder, than Lennox: "Never, ever, ever have I been involved with a fighter who has so much one punch punching power. Even guys that knock somebody out—they get them hurt, they knock them down, they get them groggy—Wladimir is the only fighter I’ve ever worked with that everything can be normal like a big party—everybody is having champagne, on the floors, in the tuxedos, with the music—and the lights go off completely at one time. I mean it’s not like a gradual dimmer switch. I never saw anyone who knocked out people in a gym when they block punches and he did that about three weeks ago with a sparring partner—two weeks ago, prior to the fight. With a sparring partner he threw a left hook, the sparring partner blocked the punch and with twenty ounce gloves he was still knocked out. He has unbelievable one punch punching power"
And so does Phil Jackson, who fought both Wlad and Lewis:
"Malinowski: More powerful than Lennox Lewis would you say?
Phil Jackson: Yeah, most definitely. Yeah.
Malinowski: What hand? Right hand?
Phil Jackson: Both. Both. Put it this way...if it would have been him in there when his brother fought Lennox Lewis, I think he would have dropped Lennox Lewis. I honestly do. I think he would have dropped Lennox Lewis - if he would have been in the best of shape".
It's not my words, it's words of trainer, who trained both Wlad and Lennox, and words of the fighter, who fought both of them.
according to Wlad... team Povetkin is really a mess and the ESPN article confirms it. there are all trying to take Sasha in different directions. What gets me is all the BS over 2 years when its clear they never had FULL intentions of fighting Wlad
The problem is that Povetkin himself doesn't want to fight Wlad. If he had any balls, he would've said "Teddy, I'm going to fight Wlad and if you think I'm not ready, I'll hire new trainer" But it seems like Povetkin is scared to death and wouldn't fight Wlad even for 100 billions of dollars
Not only that, but they need to read the recent Dan Rafael article on ESPN about what transpired. Povetkin is stalling, how ready do you have to be? You are 30 years old, you had an Olympic gold medal, you have have around 20 fights as a pro... oh, and you have had 2+ years as a mandatory to fight Wlad. First it was a tree root that stopped him now a sinus infection?
Most likely, it was vagina infection
Holyfield definitely has better resume, but H2H it's a tough call. Lewis beat Holyfield, but Holyfield was past his prime then (his prime was from 1986 to 1993) while Lewis was at his best in 1999. And though Lewis won first fight easily,their second fight was very close. Actually, Larry Holmes, Roy Jones Jr, both Klitschko's and Chris Byrd all thought that Holyfield deserved the win in that fight.
This is a big step up. Rudenko is European level while charr is top 20
Are you kidding? Charr isn't even top-30. He is ridiculously slow, has no defense and his boxing IQ is extremely low. He barely beat past-prime journeyman Bidenko and was losing to another past-prime journeyman Bakhtov until Denis got injured. Watch the fight. Hughie will beat him easily and probably stop him late
Very fast hand speed, good, tested chin (took some blows from Takam fine), good jab but he doesn't always use it, good combination puncher, good body puncher. His footwork is not exceptional but it's functional and his athleticism makes up for it. He does well when he has space to come forward and when he's pressing the fight. He also tends to do well against taller fighters where he can work the body more.
Weaknesses are defense, and he's not that great on the back foot. Pressure fighters seem to be able to expose him somewhat, and he doesn't really know what to do when someone gets on his chest.
Parker is a weird one really. I think at the moment he's quite underrated because he's looked bad against opposition that don't suit his style. I think he has a decent chance of beating the other champs. But I also think if you get someone fighting a solid pressure fight at a slightly higher level than Ruiz, Parker won't be able to deal with it. So maybe someone like Jarrell Miller.
Very good post! I think Parker is solid all-around fighter but not an exceptional one in any given area.
Lol i'm sure that's not his real sparring partner but funny anyway.
Hughie looks in pretty good shape though. Moves well for someone who is 6'6".
He will box circles around Parker.
Yes, he is a good boxer. But his lack of power can be his downfall in this fight
No they weren't and he'd beat all of them with relative ease, too big too strong and too skilled for any of these fighters.
Too skilled? Are you kidding? Prime Lewis went life and death against inactive, overweight Ray Mercer who hadn't won a fight for 30 months prior to their fight. 42-years-old Larry Holmes completely schooled prime, unbeaten version of Ray Mercer. Holmes was way more skilled than Lewis.
Holmes went life and death with SHavers who was also past prime and lost to a light heavyweight, twice, doesn't mean he wasn't one of the best heavyweights of all time (my personal favorite) but we have to call a spade a spade. Every fighter has trouble with a certain style of fighters and no fighter goes to the ring at a 100%, Ali struggled with a lot of fighters and lost 3 times to Ken Norton.
Lewis lost twice to B level fighters, but he found a way especially against Rahman and showed why he's A level and Rahman was B level, bottom line, he fought in a great era and beat every single top fighter that was out there and if you don't understand that Lewis was a supremely skilled and was the closest to being a complete heavyweight of all the heavyweights in the history of that sport then you should start watching another sport. Size + Power + Skills all in one.
Holmes never went life and death against Shavers. He was knocked down, but won every other minute of that fight and eventually stopped Shavers, while Lewis lost at least 4 of 10 rounds to Mercer.
Lewis was very skilled indeed, but he had a lot of problems against overweight inactive Mercer and past prime Holyfield (in the rematch), both of whom were much smaller than him. And I don't even count Bruno and Vitali fights here because he was pre-prime against Bruno and past prime against Vitali.
Also, you are wrong about Lewis facing and beating every single top fighter that was out there. He didn't beat Bowe (not his fault that fight didn't happen, but still he hadn't fought him in the pros), Moorer and old Foreman. Byrd and Ruiz were top fighters at the end of Lewis' reing too and Lennox never faced them. Ruiz beat washed-up Holyfield and prime Rahman, while Byrd got the wins against prime (though injured) Vitali, prime in-shape Tua and washed-up Holyfield. They were way more deserving opponents for Lewis than Kirk Johnson, whom Lewis wanted to fight in 2003, or Botha, whom he faced in 2000.
Nobody gave a rat's ass about the WBO belt, which was like today's IBO belt. Lennox Lewis is the best heavyweight boxer in history and I don't think either Wilder or Joshua could carry his jock no matter how many belts they're holding. Hopefully one day one of them moves on to have a resume that's even half as good as Lewis' who fought in one of the toughest eras ever in heavyweight boxing history, they will never be as skilled as Lewis either.
Ali, Louis and Holmes were better.
What are you talking about, Lewis cold stopped Tyson. Lewis also lanced Ruddock cold too. You just start watching Boxing last week or something?
Also, you're comparing the best era of HW's to the shítstains that are out there now. Lewis' opposition was the best in Boxing history.
I'm NOT a Lennox Lewis fan, but come on dude lmao.
Who the fùck is Zumbano lmao?
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39 posts since 2008? You GOT to be a dead alt resurfacing.
Lewis battered shot to **** Tyson like a punching bag for 7 rounds and Tyson wasn't knocked out cold. He was getting up at the end of the count. Tyson covered his face with his right arm right after hitting the ground. He WASN'T knocked out cold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM6QXfdeRMo
Hey man, come on, I'm not saying Joshua is feather-fisted, far from it, he obviously has power there, I'm just saying it's not cold power, if that makes sense? Seems more like a thudding, clubbing type of power. Just means we might never see clean KOs from Joshua, there's always be a ref jumping in, or a towel thrown, or whatever
But how many of Lennox Lewis' opponents were knocked out cold for several minutes? I can't recall one. Still Lennox is considered as one of the hardest hitting HW in the history of the sport.
Looking at Joshua's record, I don't believe there's a single instance of his knocking an opponent out cold. Has he ever achieved this?
For someone who is being touted as some kind of Knock Out Artist, it's quite incredible, I think, that Joshua lacks cold power. Sure, some will say, 'Yeah, the ref always jumps in too early, that's why' but it's more than this, he seems tight and slow somehow. Is he simply too muscle-bound?
We all saw Whyte's KO of Browne last week. Why haven't we seen KOs like that from Joshua?
His KOs of Whyte and Zumbano Love were impressive. BTW, Lennox Lewis also never knocked out anybody as cold as Whyte KOed Browne.
This picture is as distorted as humanly possible.
He has a double chin (which in shape Gassiev doesn't have), which you can clearly see on this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vc93rkQXG0&feature=youtu.be&a
yer, and price 1-3 is 20/1 lol. That's decent, but unless Price lands a HUGE shot early that totally flatlines povetkin then there isnt much chance, because even if Price hurts him, and tries going for the kill, he gasses out so unbelievably easy that he basically KO's himself :lol1:
I mean a prime Wladimir couldnt get povetkin outta there, so how in the hell is pricey going to? his best win is a shot to **** fraudley harrison ffs, tbh this fight should not of been sanctioned. Price is going to get badly badly hurt.
Yeah, but against Wladimir there was prime and roided to grills Povetkin. Current version of Povetkin doesn't have that much power or speed. Saying that, I'm almost 100% sure he will KO Price early.
Lennox's KO of Rahman in the rematch was pretty devastating.
Yes, but Rahman wasn't out cold. He even tried to get up but collapsed again. I think Joshua's KO of Whyte wasn't any less devastating comparing to Lewis' KO of Rahman.
I'd give Derevyanchenko a decent chance to wake up from the coma he gets put in if he fights GGG
You are underestimating Derevyanchenko. Surely, GGG is a great fighter, but he is getting older. Derevyanchenko is better than any of GGG's first 35 opponents and last 3 opponents gave Gennady a lot of troubles, even welterweight Kell Brook.
What are you talking about, Lewis cold stopped Tyson. Lewis also lanced Ruddock cold too. You just start watching Boxing last week or something?
Also, you're comparing the best era of HW's to the shítstains that are out there now. Lewis' opposition was the best in Boxing history.
I'm NOT a Lennox Lewis fan, but come on dude lmao.
Who the fùck is Zumbano lmao?
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39 posts since 2008? You GOT to be a dead alt resurfacing.
And Lewis couldn't even slightly hurt glass-jawed bum Levi Billups in 10 rounds in his 19th fight. Corrie Sanders, Tim Witherspoon, Jeremy Williams all knocked him (Billups) out in 1 round. Hell, even feather-fisted cruiserweight Orlin Norris demolished Levi Billups inside 50 seconds.
Rather BJS to unify and Chenko fights Andrade to earn the shot next so people wont say who he beat for either one. Charlo should fight Jacobs then the winner gets the shot after that.
It would be the best scenario for Canelo, because in that case GGG will be 37 y.o. at the time of their rematch.
id rather see him fight andrade and golovkin fight BJS and then the winners meet.
Not a bad idea, but BJS can make a fight very boring while Derevyanchenko has very eciting style.
Lennox's KO of Rahman in the rematch was pretty devastating.
Lewis' most brutal KO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYtdau3QPOQ
Joshua's most brutal KO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ghl0a-EsU
Yes, it does! Holyfield's chin is overrated! There should be no excuse to getting stopped by a former blown up middleweight that is a feather fist at heavyweight.
Holyfield was 41 and was stopped by the body punch after prolongous beating. Do you think Wilder would be able to stand at his feet after taking best punches from Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson?
Luis Ortiz probably hits much harder than AJ or Wladimir Klitschko. Deontay Wilder didn't even go down ONCE, despite getting hit by MULTIPLE power punches from Ortiz. But Anthony Joshua fell like the twin towers when Wlad caught him with a SINGLE right hand.
It doesn't matter how someone's legs are. If they don't go down, then they are okay. And it's much better to be standing then going down like an idiot.
Wilder was also stunned by Eric Molina, who is neither top-10 HW nor a big puncher - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iV9Thb0VCA