this guy announced his comeback to the forum with this:rofl:
It's true...Christians believe we're in the end times and that Jesus has already taken birth and his return is imminent. What if he'd been raised in today's society and had partaken in sinful sexual acts only to redeem himself later. Would you judge him by the original Jesus' moral standards?
Shall we just make this really simple?
Let's both of us right now condemn ALL pedophilia.
Say it with me;
I condemn 52 year old men marrying 6 year old children.
Can you say that?
I've never said that. You've spent this entire thread, 29 pages, making things up instead of condemning 52 year old men marrying kids.
All I've said was the prophet from that religion married a 6 year old girl when he was 52. That's a fact.
Are you ok with that? Or will you condemn it?
You cannot judge Mohammed's behaviour by today's standards. That happened 1500 years ago and the world was a VERY different place in terms of development, morality, infrastructure etc. Back then, it was common for older men to marry very young girls even though by today's standards that would be viewed as pa£dophilia. Also, many people believe that the second coming of Jesus is imminent...what if he'd partaken in anal sex (with girls) because it's become fashionable nowadays (fuelled by porn). Would you judge him by the same standards as the original Jesus when it was frowned upon and considered a sin?
His sister is a noble soul nothing like her brother. This is the same guy that when he was champion used to have fighting pit bulls and according to one of his trainers used to throw stray cats and watch his pits tear them to pieces and would tape the mouths of Labrador’s and watch his pits rip them to shreds, he’s living his karma….
To be fair I struggle to reconcile that part of his life...he was an IDIOT and deserves to suffer for his wrongdoing. Having said that, I'd much rather be ripped to shreds by a pit bull in minutes than live like McClellan for the past 30 years!
Harsh realities of life people...when you're winning and on top, EVERYBODY wants to be around you to share in the limelight. However, when you're down on your luck, NOBODY wants to be around you except maybe 1 or 2 REAL ones.
God bless this man and his sister!
My nose started bleeding trying to read that
No problem dude...I'm just trying to wake some of the sheep up but you're obviously not ready.
Keep following the Epstein file releases is all I can say!
I've had enough internet for today. Praying this thread is buried by tomorrow. Oh and folks that wear metal helmets with aluminum foil on top need to be put down. I can't stand conspiracy theorists. Especially when the facts and investigations came out providing an account of what happened. As long as folks like this exist, society cannot move on.
They're ALL part of the club you moron...that's why Epstein's flight logs read like a 'who's who' from the world of Royalty, Politicians, Billionaires, Hollywood & the music industry!
I suggest you start reading the latest Epstein file releases to get just an INKLING of what your favourite celebrities are up to behind closed doors.
^^
Lol 2 pussies already can't handle the truth...what do you think all of these celebrities (e.g. Jay Z, Beyonce, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates etc) were doing on notorious pedo Epstein's private island? Playing checkers? The only way to really get ahead in this world is to GIVE something up aka a sacrifice.
He just wigged out. He flipped his lid. He blew his top! Give him the win but I think he's hair today gone tomorrow.
True...he got his wig split and won it by a hair after surviving a few hairy moments! :rofl:
I was looking forward to see it but lets be honest it was the biggest mismatch on the card and it would have been a KO win by Adames.
Agreed but it still would've been nice to see it manifest into reality!
No way in hell a guy like Murtaz loses to the likes of Kelly who although a good fighter, simply doesn't have the chin, heart or skills to beat him.
If I'm wrong, I'll never post on this forum again (UNLESS he gets a disgusting hometown robbery which can't be overlooked)!
Cinkara is BUFF a career cruiser with a 83% ko ratio:cool:
There’s enough ish from the Cuban Dave fight for Buff Guy Jai to use:cool: and at least 8-4 Fat Dave
Fat Dave is volume in BURSTS like…..BIVOL
both have averaged 45 punches per round as of late
that’s only 7 more than Top Sniper Floyd who’d do 38
I’d be impressed if Fat Dave spams shots at Parker’s Cousin Buff Guy Jai like Buff Guy Artur did vs Top Soviet Bivol
the REAL volume guy Buff Guy Artur was spamming 57 around blessed with his ALLAH FUELED STAMINA
I do not believe Fat Dave has comparable stamina given how he took his foot off the gas pedal in the final thirds against Gvozdyk and Cuban Dave
Fat Dave gets cross stepping following in straight lines when confronted with fleet feet
Struggling to cut the ring off would discourage higher volume
Yeah but Cinkara has beaten absolutely nobody of note yet STILL managed to tag Jai plenty and almost drop him. Therefore, I repeat, imagine what the much faster, much more skilled Benavidez could do to him?
Also, I disagree about Dave tiring in the later rounds or using the Morrell fight (even though he's a southpaw) as a basis to beat him. If you look at the CompuBox numbers below, Benavidez outlanded him in almost ALL of the rounds and actually landed significantly more punches in the championship rounds too.
https://www.boxingscene.com/articles/compubox-punch-stats-david-benavidez-david-morrell
Bro Floyd and manny have 5 shared opps with Floyd fighting 3/5 first
so they’re either both too tactical matchmaking or both willing to take on most comers
For sure but Manny's faced more quality opponents in their prime e.g. Bradley, Thurman, Cotto etc whereas Floyd has only really fought Hatton.
Nonsense. Remember that post fight interview when they asked Shane about fighting Floyd next and he replied that he had plans to go on trips and he had a loose tooth and might need to see a dentist? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3HkxRSP2G0
I don't want to turn this into another Pacquiao vs. Mayweather discussion (this thread is about SRR), however, given Mayweather's track record of only fighting top opposition after they've suffered multiple losses e.g. Pacquiao, Cotto, Marquez, DLH, Mosley etc., I DON'T believe Mosley was the one who stalled the fight.
this is false. Sugar Robinson jeeted Charley while manny jeeted Tall Paul instead opting for a diminished Antonio
Sugar Ray Robinson famously avoided a fight with the highly skilled Charley Burley, reportedly stating, "I'm too pretty to fight Burley". Burley, a formidable master technician from the "Black Murderers' Row" era, was considered too risky and dangerous for a high-profile, low-reward matchup.
Key details regarding this famous boxing anecdote:
The Quote: Robinson supposedly made the "too pretty" comment while watching Burley fight from ringside, highlighting the danger Burley posed to a champion's reputation and face.
Burley’s Reputation: Burley was an exceptional defensive and counter-punching technician who was avoided by many top contenders and champions.
Avoiding Risks: Robinson reportedly doubled his price to fight Burley, ensuring the fight would not happen.
Financial/Career Factors: Experts argue that fighting a dangerous, non-marquee opponent like Burley offered little financial gain for a rising star like Robinson.
Despite the quote often being used as evidence of a "duck," some analyses suggest it was more of a pragmatic business decision rather than fear.
Charley was the best skilled among a group of widely ducked bbc boxers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pDvVvUnrpE
instead the anybody, any weight mentality was found in Harry, Sam, Henry, Ezzard, and Archie
Sugar Robinson and manny were superstars
boxing superstars always have tactical matchmaking that results in missing some names
Didn't know that but it would be FOOLISH to call SRR & Pacquiao 'duckers' given that they've both fought a murderer's row of opponents in different weight classes including in their 40s.
of course Cinkara is a career long cruiser
they all have power at that size
Fat Dave would be a 175 who ate tacos his way into cruiser
The power will be diminished he wasn’t ever a one punch ko even at 168
Lol Cinkara is a certified BUM and even he managed to land several flush right hands on Opetaia and almost dropped him. Therefore, imagine how many times David's going to tag him given his infinitely superior hand speed and skill (vs. Cinkara) plus the fact that he's a pressure fighter with an insane work rate?
I'm NOT saying that he's going to necessarily stop (or drop) Opetaia but this fight will be a lot closer than you think.
Wow did not expect that kind of performance from Muratalla...dominating an elite amateur like Andy Cruz!
Although it was a close fight, I thought Raymond CLEARLY won the fight so 116-112 was the correct scorecard. He backed up Cruz all night long and didn't give him room to breath and matched him for punch output.
Congrats and now he can consider himself a 'proper champion'.
Shane Mosley was pushing 40 and was too shopworn to follow up
I know which is precisely why Mayweather AVOIDED him in his prime just like numerous other dangerous fighter's e.g. Pacquiao, Cotto etc.
Me have Parker’s Cousin Buff Guy Jai’s SKILLED Slugger Style being bad for Fat Dave whose power and volume decreased when he moved up to 175:(
175 to 200 is the biggest single weight jump for the next division
Fat Dave has stated as the smaller man against Fat Gilbert Fat Dave will use his speed edge to box
While Fat Dave has a good spear jab and reach he hasn’t yet to show the footwork to outbox someone such as the fleet footed Jai
Buff Guy Artur’s one a year bothers me less as he’s now 41. Keep his mileage only for the big fights? And he isn’t the p4p king
Since p4p king is the face of boxing the onus is on the heavy head that wears the crown to fight regularly:cool:
Naoya has had a strong reign fighting thrice or 4x per year
Lol did you watch his last fight? 41yo journeyman Cinkara wobbled him with a few right hands and almost DROPPED him. Therefore, although fleet-footed, he's not nearly as difficult to tag as you think so imagine what Benavidez would do to him?
While Floyd is the best skilled defender ever
he was also offensively excellent being the most accurate puncher in recorded history
Sugar Robinson had some combos that you seldom see today
jab + ranged right hook to the flank of the body + ripping left hook into the midsection + left hook to the head sometimes doubled
he was a fleet footed gliding boxer but would attack the body religiously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-sJX3cL6Y
he was still the best when past prime starting at 33 years old in the unretired part of his boxing career that included beating Hall of Famers Bobo, Gene, and Carmen
it wasn't until 38 years old when Sugar Robinson became over the hill due to age related stamina issues as he was outworked down the stretch twice by Paul
Robbed at 39 when he beat Gene wide in the trilogy
Washed up Sugar Robinson at 40+ then went onto beat Denny and Ralph who'd go onto become 154 world champs + beat some regional euroid champs
Sugar Robinson would be an aged 154 beating prime bigger guys
Yeah he had a very unique and unorthodox fighting style. However, the thing I like MOST about him was the fact that he was an 'old school fighter' who was willing to face anybody in any weight class at any time. In other words, he didn't care about protecting his '0' and preferred chasing glory instead. That's why he had 201 pro fights and retired at 44.
Fighter's nowadays (bar Pacquiao) simply DON'T take those kind of risks.
It's easy to do that against the same slow come forward flat footed shopworn fighter,
Then Floyd never showed what happens when none of that is working can he dig deep
To be fair Mayweather showed a great chin, toughness and heart when Mosley almost decapitated him twice.
Yes. But you left out his extreme skill and high boxing IQ.
It is that combination of athletic traits along with knowing how to box superbly that sets him apart. Something not seen in the modern era except in perhaps Roy Jones. But Sugar Ray Robinson was also tough as hell, Roy’s punch resistance we found out was lacking.
Yeah that too...it was like GOD built the perfect fighter...extreme IQ, athleticism, speed, combinations, leverage and torque plus KO power in both hands.
RJJ & fight IQ aside, I think Pacquiao is the only fighter who matches him in all other attributes in the modern era.
How do you two see Fat Dave-Parker's Cousin Buff Guy Jai going?
Good question...it'll probably be a close '6-6 fight' as you like to say. However, I give Benavidez the edge since he's got a better chin and Jai is much easier to hit. Also, he's got the superior work rate plus his constant forward pressure is likely to sway the judges. He's also fought the better opposition whereas Opetaia has only fought Breidis (twice).
However, I DON'T think it'll be an easy fight since Jai is a natural Cruiserweight, southpaw and has great athleticism. Let's see how he does against lefty Ramirez first!
Artur DEFINITELY stays in shape between fights, he is almost obsessed with slways being ready
Agreed but given that he's 41yo, it would be FOOLISH to face Bivol again without a tune-up (especially since Dmitry already has one lined up).